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GAS PRISES!

Posted on 03/28/2004 6:55:23 PM PST by danamco

Help us and join the crowd to force the big oil companies to lower the gas prices!!


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1 posted on 03/28/2004 6:55:23 PM PST by danamco
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To: danamco
Join the resistance!!!!

I hear we are going to hit close to $3.00 a gallon by the summer.
Want gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent,united action. Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea: This makes
MUCH MORE SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.

Please read it and join with us!

By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is super cheap. Me too! It is currently $1.97 for regular unleaded in my town. Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have
conditioned us to think that the cost of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50- $1..75, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the marketplace....not sellers.



With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of gas come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing their gas!

And, we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? Since we all rely on our cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas prices if we all act together to force a price war.

Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil gas buyers.

It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me at this point...keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it to,at least, ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have beencontacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it.....
THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all. (If you don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do
is send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a mathematician. (But I am .... so trust me on this one.)

How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could
conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you I didn't think you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can make a difference.

If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.30 RANGE
AND KEEP THEM DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK
2 posted on 03/28/2004 6:55:52 PM PST by danamco
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To: danamco
Doing my part already by riding a scooter and walking my friend.
3 posted on 03/28/2004 6:56:04 PM PST by cyborg (troll on a stick)
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To: danamco
Tick Tick Tick Tick.
4 posted on 03/28/2004 6:56:11 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberalism is a Hate Crime)
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5 posted on 03/28/2004 6:56:44 PM PST by DefCon
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To: danamco
Gas Prises is series and hugh.
6 posted on 03/28/2004 6:57:17 PM PST by Texasforever (I am all flamed out.)
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To: danamco
GAS PRISES!

How do I win?

7 posted on 03/28/2004 6:57:44 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (I brake for tag lines.)
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To: danamco; Dog Gone
DG

I have neither the time nor patience to explain Oilfield Eco 101 to this poster. You care to do it?

8 posted on 03/28/2004 6:58:40 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: danamco
Park that van or suv unless you're doing something you actually need it for.
9 posted on 03/28/2004 6:59:00 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: Charles Henrickson
Is there a Grand Gas Prix?
10 posted on 03/28/2004 6:59:13 PM PST by DeFault User
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To: PA Engineer
LOL
11 posted on 03/28/2004 6:59:55 PM PST by cyborg (troll on a stick)
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To: Charles Henrickson
How do I win?

Break wind!

12 posted on 03/28/2004 7:00:02 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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To: PA Engineer
Is that octane or ozone I'm smelling?
13 posted on 03/28/2004 7:00:25 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Expect long tag lines.)
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To: danamco
Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.

This sounds like one of them there chain letters. .....All that's missing are the "testimonials" from folks who didn't send the lettter on and enountered all sorts of bad luck (as a direct consequence of their inaction, of course).

14 posted on 03/28/2004 7:01:48 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Charles Henrickson
LOL! I think it may be napalm. ;-) It does smell like victory, ya know?
15 posted on 03/28/2004 7:02:01 PM PST by Pyro7480 (Minister for the Conversion of Hardened Sinners,Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: danamco
Here in Alaska we love the high gas prices. The projected state deficit brought on by eight years of runaway spending by our outgoing democrat governer has driven the state into major red ink. Now with $30 a barrel oil it seems that the deficit is going away (for now).
16 posted on 03/28/2004 7:02:40 PM PST by strongbow
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To: danamco
Presisely...
17 posted on 03/28/2004 7:02:41 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: danamco
NONSENSE!
18 posted on 03/28/2004 7:02:53 PM PST by RBroadfoot
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To: danamco
Well, let's face it, you just aren't a mathematician. (But I am .... so trust me on this one.)

You better stick to mathematics... you're not going to make it in economics.

19 posted on 03/28/2004 7:04:01 PM PST by So Cal Rocket (If consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds, John F. Kerry’s mind must be freaking enormous)
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To: danamco
Here it comes:


20 posted on 03/28/2004 7:04:04 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: danamco
Ya Ya I seen this passed around and I'll tell you like I told them. Jump down the troats of the national socialists democrats that blocked the opening of the vast reserves we have right in our back yard which resulted in us depending on those radical friends of these national socialist for our energy.
21 posted on 03/28/2004 7:04:30 PM PST by crz
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To: danamco

22 posted on 03/28/2004 7:04:44 PM PST by 4mycountry ("Completely concretely" - - That's "the power of the 'Freeper'.")
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To: danamco
Check out Snopes.com:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/gasout.htm
23 posted on 03/28/2004 7:05:21 PM PST by RBroadfoot
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon; danamco
How about I try, I made a thing on this last time gas prices spiked:

Here's the Supply/Demand curves for oil.
 

 |\       /S  |  |        /S  |  |  \     /S
 | \     /    |  |       /    |  |   \   /
 |  \   /     |  |\     /     |  |    \ /
 |   \ /      |  | \   /      |  |-----X
$|----X       | $|  \ /       | $|    /|\
 |   /|\      |  |---X        |  |   / | \
 |  / | \     |  |  /|\       |  |  /  |  \D
 | /  |  \    |  | / | \D     |  | /   |
 |/___|___\D  |  |/__|__\__   |  |/____|___
  Oil Sold    |   Oil Sold    |   Oil Sold
              |               |
   All Cos.   | Exxon/Mobil,  | Other Cos.,
Before Boycott|During Boycott |During Boycott
              |               |
              |               |
This is why it wouldn't work. When you boycott Exxon, the demand curve for Exxon moves to the left. Since Exxon is selling less oil, they charge less for it.
But, assuming the total demand stays the same, those boycotters will go to Texaco, BP/Amoco, ELF, etc.,driving their prices up. So, by boycotting, you raise prices for yourself, and lower them for the people who stay with Exxon. This means there will be tremendous incentive to break the boycott, and buy from Exxon.
Once the boycott fails, the prices go right back to there they started.
 
 

Here's the profits.


      _             _
 |\  / \           / \
 | \ | |           | |
 |  /   \         /   \
 | | \   |       |     |
$| |  \  |       |     |
 |/    \  \     /       \
 ||     \ |     |       |
 ||      \|     |       |
 |________\    /         \
This is a very bad rendition of a parabola, pulled out to the side to make it slightly easier to see.  The parabola represents total income for the company, number of units sold times price of sale. If you sell too high, your loss of volume will sap revenue. Sell low, and you don't make enough on each to make a profit.
24 posted on 03/28/2004 7:05:28 PM PST by NovemberCharlie
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To: danamco
stop using so much and inventories will increase. BTW it isnt the oil companies this time it is OPEC and Environmentalism.
25 posted on 03/28/2004 7:05:36 PM PST by raloxk
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To: crz
Throats
26 posted on 03/28/2004 7:05:47 PM PST by crz
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To: danamco
I work at exxonmobil, and they pushed this out saying it's all false.

I, for one, don't buy it. Exxonmobil makes $6.6 billion a quarter profit. They are gouging.
27 posted on 03/28/2004 7:06:03 PM PST by Monty22
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To: danamco
You've been here for a year, and still don't know how FR works?

This is a REALLY lame post. I'll bet you don't reply to it....(taunt, taunt)
28 posted on 03/28/2004 7:06:15 PM PST by Judith Anne (Is life a paradox? Well, yes and no...)
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To: DefCon; Willie Green
LOL

All U.S. gas hikes are U.N. planned gas hikes,.....for the U.S. sucker/citizen/born everyday!

Quote:......'U.N.Barnum'...!

/sarcasm

29 posted on 03/28/2004 7:06:41 PM PST by maestro
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
I can explain it in two words: record profits.
30 posted on 03/28/2004 7:06:48 PM PST by breakem
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To: NovemberCharlie; Constitution Day
Are you flipping the bird to Paula Abdul?
31 posted on 03/28/2004 7:06:52 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Can't waste my time either, but Snopes has a pretty good write-up:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/gasout.htm
32 posted on 03/28/2004 7:07:26 PM PST by RBroadfoot
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
Can't waste my time either, but Snopes has a pretty good write-up:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/gasout.htm
33 posted on 03/28/2004 7:07:34 PM PST by RBroadfoot
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To: danamco
I think you are barking up the wrong tree. For example:

Price breakdown of gas (APPROXIMATE):

$1.90 per gallon in Sacramento CA
-$.83 per gallon cost of crude oil ($35 per 42 gallons)
-$.55 per gallon all taxes
__________
$.52 per gallon left to cover transport to refinery, refining, transport to storage, transport to gas station, AND profit for refiner, distributor, and retailer.

The real cost is in the price of crude oil and taxes which the oil companies have little control over. Compare this to the price of milk which is a local product! Also, in 1970, gas was 37 cent a gallon. Factor that up with inflation and gas is the same cost as it was in 1970.

The REAL problem is that now new refineries have been built in California since 1968. Also, our California only formula makes it impossible for other states to help when a refinery goes down. This is typical across the nation.

If you really want to get help, then contact you local political leaders to get them to support more capacity and tell the environmentalists to stop delaying energy producing initiatives.
34 posted on 03/28/2004 7:07:37 PM PST by fleur-de-lis
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To: danamco
"Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL"


This wont work, Gasoline prices are determined by total supply and total demand. Boycotting two companies. wont change total supply or total demand.

If people car pooled, it would greatly reduce demand and supply inventories would build. Prices would fall quickly
35 posted on 03/28/2004 7:07:56 PM PST by raloxk
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
I have neither the time nor patience to explain Oilfield Eco 101 to this poster. You care to do it?


How come when the gas station lowers his price, the other guy on the corner across from him does the same???
36 posted on 03/28/2004 7:08:49 PM PST by danamco
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To: raloxk
Exxonmobil is now one company, the biggest revenue and profit maker in the world, by a good margin.

It's bordering on anti-trust. In fact, it's basically Standard Oil 2.0

I know this stuff too.
37 posted on 03/28/2004 7:09:11 PM PST by Monty22
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To: strongbow
Here in Alaska we love the high gas prices.

You also love the year end dividend check that all residents receive, but that's another story. :-)

38 posted on 03/28/2004 7:09:15 PM PST by Archangelsk (Shall we have a king?)
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To: danamco
Uh... why is this post under "Anthrax scare"?
39 posted on 03/28/2004 7:09:43 PM PST by 4mycountry ("Completely concretely" - - That's "the power of the 'Freeper'.")
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To: Monty22
You want price control then???
40 posted on 03/28/2004 7:09:57 PM PST by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: danamco
Go on, force the refineries and oil companies to lower their prices now. Within 6 months you will learn what is worse than high gas prices ---- gas lines and rationing.
41 posted on 03/28/2004 7:10:46 PM PST by Mike Darancette (General - Alien Army of the Right (AAOTR))
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To: NovemberCharlie
You are correct as far as you go but have failed to even mention limited supply drawn from the same pool, where the independent gets their supply and who refines it to begin with. After 30 years in the oilfield I can't tell one barrel from another, nor can anyone else.
42 posted on 03/28/2004 7:10:49 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: KevinDavis
I want competition. Not huge oligarchy trusts, which the government's recreated with all the mergers lately.
43 posted on 03/28/2004 7:10:59 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Texasforever
Gas Prises is series and hugh.

I agree--sounds almost as series as the time my sister got bitten by a moose. It was a hugh moose, BTW--it was so hugh that later we entered it in a 4-H contest and won First Prise.

44 posted on 03/28/2004 7:12:10 PM PST by Fedora
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To: Monty22
I agree with that.
45 posted on 03/28/2004 7:12:24 PM PST by raloxk
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To: 4mycountry
Besauce it is a prise-winning eccay...
46 posted on 03/28/2004 7:12:52 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Monty22
I, for one, don't buy it. Exxonmobil makes $6.6 billion a quarter profit.

Well truth be told they send me several thousand dollars of that every quarter, along with thousands of other people.

47 posted on 03/28/2004 7:13:25 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: danamco; Willie Green
How come when the gas station lowers his price, the other guy on the corner across from him does the same???

Right!

Especially,....when the 'same' oil/gas International Oil Company owns each gas station on all FOUR CORNERS!

(hang it up 'mom-n-pop' independents!)

(Whose International Refinery is it anyway?)

/sarcasm

48 posted on 03/28/2004 7:13:25 PM PST by maestro
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To: raloxk
Best way to reduce gas prices is to allow more refineries, break up the trusts (texas/chevron exxonmobil) and begin work on real alterantives down the road.

There's nothing outrageous about my suggestions, in fact it's good business sense.
49 posted on 03/28/2004 7:13:27 PM PST by Monty22
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To: Charles Henrickson
I'm amazed that some people have the skills to breath even at the autonomic level. ;-)
50 posted on 03/28/2004 7:13:57 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberalism is a Hate Crime)
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