A Test of Kerry's Faith -The candidate's policies are at odds with church canon.

Time ^ | 04/05/2004 | Karen Tumulty and Perry Bacon Jr.

[Pearls Before Swine]

Kerry says his faith was instilled in him in childhood and that in Vietnam he wore a rosary around his neck when he went into battle.

That must have been before he did the poll-motivated genealogical research which put him in touch with the long lost Jewish side of his family!

[NYCVirago]

Kerry actually did adhere to church teachings, before he decided not to.

Good line!

[cynicom]

Grounds are spelled m o n e y, Sot kennedy did the same thing.

[VOA]

People in Rome are becoming more and more aware that there's a problem with John Kerry

Hey people in Roma AND the USA know the real problem with Kerry:
He'll take orders from France.

[Arthur McGowan]

If Kerry's principle is accepted--that the Catholic Church should say nothing while 45 million babies are killed in America--then the Catholic Church should NEVER be accused of or criticized for supposedly not speaking up while six million Jews were murdered. You can't have it both ways.

Either the Church has the right to denounce an injustice or it doesn't.

The gutless bishops in America are personally responsible for the phenomenon of "pro-abortion Catholics." They have been dithering over the question of excommunication for over 30 years. We've seen the result of NOT excommunicating the baby killers. Let's try the other approach.

[Arthur McGowan]

Nonsense. That's not what an annulment means.

[areafiftyone]

I know nuns are not supposed to wear them around their necks.

[Arthur McGowan]

It is NOT a Catholic custom to wear a Rosary around the neck. That is something that wacky or sinister nuns do in movies made by anti-Catholic bigots.

[OpusatFR]

"How might the rift between Kerry and the church he calls a "bedrock of values, of sureness about who I am"

My faith defines who I am. Without that faith, the Bible, the Mass, and fidelity to the teachings of the Magisterium, I am adrift in this culture.

No one can remotely violate one's conscience and the teachings of the church by voting for and espousing laws and attitudes that are diametrically opposed to God under the guise of some nebulous Separation idea and remain a Catholic.

To approve abortion, infanticide, fetal cell research, homosexual marraige in law and then to say it is because you represent the people is a scandal and a sin.

[yoe]

Kerry quotes James 2:14 "...if a man claims to have faith but has no deeds." What if a man claims to have faith, but his deeds are regularly in contravention of that faith? What does that make him?

It makes his faith questionable. Kerry's discrepancies in his Catholic faith, as has been pointed out, can’t stand the biblical tests of that church. However, the one thing that simply amazes me are the laws - Thou shalt not commit adultery or Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor, yet Kerry, Clinton, JFK are given a pass because they are Democrats and Democrats lie, lay and speak mendaciously in most instances; are expected to be unfaithful and untruefull.

Those who parade their religion and trot it out for the benefit of voters and media during elections would best divest themselves of religion. That action does not mean they do not believe in God but it would give honest weight to the separation of Church and State. Religion has no place in the voting booth – BUT – character does. The latter is something Kerry shows little of. President Bush talks little of his faith, but he shows the extraordinary character of it. Religion however a person sees or believes in it, should remain private.

[EGPWS]

Kerry is a former altar boy who complains when his campaign staff does not leave time in his Sunday schedule for Mass,...

So his campaign staff runs his schedule?

Either you're a devout Catholic or your not!

Obviously he is a devout ski boarder, for he had time for that.

He's only running for POTUS now, I wonder how he would handle the pressures of scheduling as President?

Take a Dale Carnegie course for time management?

I can picture the "Kerry Doctrine" in force.

"I haven't got time for terrorists threats today for I'm booked up with staff meetings"!

This guy is disgustingly selfish!

[Triple Word Score]

What would happen if the Pope threatened to excommunicate not only Kerry but every Catholic who voted for Kerry?

What if they decided that being pro-life was THAT important?

It won't happen. You have to ask yourself why.

[Capt. Tom]

Good post in your #6.

Catholics believe that in matters of faith and morals the Pope is infallible.

Not to be confused with being infallible in picking the winner of a horse race,or other events; we are talking faith and morals only.

Therefore if the Pope determines that abortion is wrong, as a Catholic you accept that teaching. If you disagree, you are a heretic. And if you knowingly persist in holding an opposing view to the Popes in matters of faith and morals you are not a Catholic and should leave the Church.

In the meantime if the Pope thinks Sara J is going to win the second race at the race track tomorrow, and you disagree and think Magic Warrior is going to be the winner, you are not a heretic. You are entitled to your beliefs outside the realm of faith and morals. -Tom

[Coleus]

Teresa on the Stump, Teresa Heinz Kerry, from Mozambique, PRO-ABORTION Catholic, UN Employee, etc.

Teresa Heinz Kerry, Drummond Pike and the Communist TIDES FOUNDATION

The Bible and homosexuality [Kerry thinks the bible is for homosexuality]

John Kerry and Unborn Victims

Catholic Pro-Abortion, Pro-Homosexual

Catholic and 100% Pro Abortion

Catholics Kerry and Kennedy have a 100% Pro-homosexual Record with the Human Rights Campaign! Page 10,11

CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
DOCTRINAL NOTE
on some questions regarding
The Participation of Catholics in Political Life

Living the Gospel of Life:
A Challenge to American Catholics
A Statement by the Catholic Bishops of the United States

Faithful Citizenship:
Civic Responsibility for a New Millennium

An Old Testament, Litany of Life
Canon Law and Abortion
Sign Petition: To Excommunicate
The Gospel of Life--Evangelium Vitae-on Human Life
Herod's Heroes, Sign Petition

Catechism
Catechism on Abortion Catechism on Human Life
Canon Law
Canon Law and Abortion

EVANGELIUM VITAE

The 2 Kerrys. Botox Boy Tells off The Pope
'Catholic' Kerry Accuses Pope of "Crossing the Line" With Recent Document on Same-Sex Unions
Kerry raps Pope: Senator fuming over gay marriage order

[dennisw]

Kerry is a former altar boy who complains when his campaign staff does not leave time in his Sunday schedule for Mass, who takes Communion and describes himself as a "believing and practicing Catholic, married to another believing and practicing Catholic."

What a lie. He is banned from taking communion and Massachusetts churches know this. The church he went to in Ketchum last week had not gotten the word. So in typical Kerry wise guy fashion he took communion from an unknowing priest.

[Coleus]

"He is enough of a stickler for Catholic rules to have sought an annulment of his 18-year first marriage before marrying again."

He is an annulment Catholic. I don't know what grounds he had, after 18 years and several children. By annulling his marriage, he rendered his kids bastards.>>>

And who married Kerry a second time in Martha's Vinyard, it's against canon law for a Catholic to get married in someone's house or back yard, it MUST be in a Catholic Church were we receive the sacraments.

[Coleus]

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[Aliska]

Canon 1118. Marriage between Catholic or between a Catholic and a baptized non-Catholic party is to be celebrated in a parish church with the permission of the local ordinary or pastor it can be celebrated in another church or oratory . . . (2) The local ordinary can permit marriage to be celebrated in some other suitable place.

I believe it was her home in a tent on the grounds. Would that be considered suitable?

[Coleus]

I believe it was her home in a tent on the grounds. Would that be considered suitable?>>>

thanks for the info. I don't think someone's back yard is a "suitable" replacement since the canon states that it must be in another church or oratory (a place of prayer).

All I know is that the average poor person with fortunes less than a million MUST marry in a Catholic Church. I know plenty of people, mostly the brides, who have tried unsuccessfully to have their weddings in the banquet hall chapel, the park, etc. How did Frank Sinatra get 3 annulments? Money talks, and the Heinz Kerry's have plenty of money.