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Vatican Official Tells TIME: 'There's a Problem With John Kerry...'
Time.com ^ | 4-5-04 | KAREN TUMULTY AND PERRY BACON JR.

Posted on 03/28/2004 6:48:44 AM PST by truthandlife

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1 posted on 03/28/2004 6:48:44 AM PST by truthandlife
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Vatican Official Tells TIME: 'There's a Problem With John Kerry...'

I've said there ought to be a "Well, DUH!" ping list. Maybe there also should be a "Ya think??" ping list.

Dan
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2 posted on 03/28/2004 6:50:51 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: truthandlife
It is about time that the Catholic Church got tough on these pretend Catholics. Teddy Kennedy is another one.
3 posted on 03/28/2004 6:52:34 AM PST by Piquaboy
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To: BibChr
American people to the DNC: I think there is a problem with John Kerry.
4 posted on 03/28/2004 6:53:40 AM PST by JusPasenThru (If you only hate Republicans and Christians, you still hate.)
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To: truthandlife
I will be a President who happens to be Catholic, not a Catholic President .... I certainly intend to take Communion and continue to go to Mass as a Catholic.

I'm not Catholic, but if the church says he cannot take communion because of his pro-abortion votes and whatever other offenses he's committed, it seems offensive - and it should offend Catholic voters - that he thinks he can (just like he did while on vacation on Idaho). He's thumbing his nose at the church, big time.

5 posted on 03/28/2004 6:55:14 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Piquaboy
John Kerry is NOT Catholic. He can lie about it, of course, but he is NOT Catholic.
6 posted on 03/28/2004 6:55:51 AM PST by Judith Anne (Is life a paradox? Well, yes and no...)
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To: truthandlife
Personally, I think a Catholic ought to comply with the directives of their church. Otherwise, what is the point of being a Catholic? I know Catholics who go against their own church regarding abortion, birth control, women in the priesthood and many other issues. It just makes no sense to me. I mean, it's like Ted Kennedy declaring himself to be a Republican.



7 posted on 03/28/2004 6:56:53 AM PST by SamAdams76 (I'm voting for John Kerry until I vote against him in November)
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To: BibChr
I went to a Catholic High School. We were put on buses, given Kennedy hats and shipped to a Kennedy speech in our City (Rochester).

In school, we talked about the "obligation" to vote for him because he was Catholic and therefore "better" than any other candidate. I protested saying that "qualifications" mean nothing? I got suspended.

I can tell you one thing for sure. His "groupie" relationships were never mentioned.

8 posted on 03/28/2004 6:57:19 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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Kerry was scheduled to be in St. Louis last Sunday, and told TIME, "I certainly intend to take Communion and continue to go to Mass as a Catholic."

Kerry and every other pro-abortion Catholic politician must be excommunicated. A Kerry presidency will be horribly scandalous. He will represent a terrible model for Catholics. Bishop O'Malley should have excommunicated Kerry and Kennedy as soon as he became bishop. Excommunication now can be played as a "political" move. But better late than never.

9 posted on 03/28/2004 6:57:53 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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O'Malley already has a plateful of controversy. Kerry, for his part, is planning to avoid stirring any up. "I don't tell church officials what to do," he says, "and church officials shouldn't tell American politicians what to do in the context of our public life."

The arrogance of this man is breathtaking.

10 posted on 03/28/2004 6:59:05 AM PST by madprof98
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To: Judith Anne
He is Catholic for political purposes only. That is true of most high-level elected Dem Catholics.
11 posted on 03/28/2004 7:00:36 AM PST by speedy
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To: Aquinasfan
ping....Botox-Johnnie just does not measure up........
12 posted on 03/28/2004 7:00:36 AM PST by pointsal
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To: speedy
When the the Catholic Church going to throw the lifegaurd over board?
13 posted on 03/28/2004 7:02:41 AM PST by magua
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To: Sacajaweau
In school, we talked about the "obligation" to vote for him because he was Catholic and therefore "better" than any other candidate.

Maybe he was better than Nixon. Regardless, that was a prudential judgment subject to error. The choice today, however, is clear. No Catholic (or any other person) in good conscience can vote for a politician who is pro-death, unless the other candidates are worse pro-death candidates. In such a case, voters can also refrain from voting.

14 posted on 03/28/2004 7:04:14 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: truthandlife
I was raised catholic although I think as little of Catholicism as I do of Judaism or Protestantism, or of that matter any other religion.

Nevertheless it is every person’s right to be deluded and wrong (yes yes yes including me!), just as long as the "faith" that they have mysteriously come to conclude is the correct “one” does not infringe on others who do not happen to share their certainty and rapture.

That said, Kerry's response to the Archbishop of St-Louis demonstrates monumental arrogance. Just as he understands better than Bush or just about anyone else about what is right for the country, he is also obviously all-knowing about what the church's rights are to dictate the tenets of Catholicism.

"Ban me from communion- F you cardinal and F anybody in the church who would try to stop me from practicing Catholicism, or at least what I say Catholicism is, or at least what it should be according to what I say it should be." If the church had any guts at all it would excommunicate this jerk.
15 posted on 03/28/2004 7:05:33 AM PST by US admirer
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It would be a great day if it happened, but to continue the diving metaphor, don't hold your breath. I will say, though, that there is more of a spotlight now by Church officials on these wayward politicians than I have noticed in the past. I think this subject is going to get a lot hotter.
16 posted on 03/28/2004 7:07:14 AM PST by speedy
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To: SamAdams76
FWIW, though no fan of the RCC, I agree with you. If you're going to be something, BE it. If you're not, change.

Dan
17 posted on 03/28/2004 7:07:14 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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I'd bet that if Kennedy and Kerry were told by the church to vote pro-life or be excommunicated, both of them would change their religion before they'd change their votes. It just goes to show that, to them, being a politician IS their religion.
18 posted on 03/28/2004 7:08:39 AM PST by Terry Mross
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Hey John Freakin' Kerry how about living like a Catholic instead of only professing to be one at election time or when a photo op occurs?
19 posted on 03/28/2004 7:10:47 AM PST by leprechaun9
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I loved the one line where his paternal grandparents were Jewish, who converted to Catholicism. It just sounds like more of John 'effing trying to be on both sides of something. I seem to recall back before Kerry was known nationally he tried to claim he was Irish when he really wasn't. Maybe someone from MA remembers it.
20 posted on 03/28/2004 7:13:33 AM PST by YankeeReb
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