Could Howard Stern Topple Bush?

NewsMax.com ^ | 3-18-04 | Carl Limbacher

[Mich0127]

Is "shock jock" Howard Stern's voice powerful enough to affect the upcoming presidential election to the extent of sending President Bush packing?

That's what the Boston Globe wants to know, explaining that the liberal talk show host the newspaper describes as a "stripper aficionado, champion of misfits everywhere, all-purpose radio provocateur," has turned his raunchy show into a Bush bashing marathon.

Writes the Globe's Matthew Gilbert, Stern has been devoting hours of his broadcast every weekday "to impassioned criticism of President Bush and support of Senator John Kerry."

Stern, he writes has been "Railing tirelessly against the president, attacking Bush's alleged yoking together of church and state, questioning the legitimacy of Bush's National Guard service, his use of images of Sept. 11 in his campaign ads, his stands on First Amendment rights, his handling of Iraq, and his stands against gay marriage and stem-cell research.

"Join me and friends of this show who are outraged," Stern said on the air last Friday. "Vote out every Republican you can find."

Moreover, Stern is also asking his listeners to send money to Kerry's campaign, calling the Massachusetts Senator "a good man" and praising both his record in Vietnam as well as his anti-Vietnamese war activities.

Stern's voice is powerful, as his ratings show. "With all the talk of liberal talk radio," Michael Harrison, the editor and publisher of Talkers magazine told the Globe. "... we're seeing emerging from the ranks of `shock jocks' one of the most potent and articulate liberal talkers we've seen in years."

Stern's recent crusade, he added, is "historic. Anytime you have somebody suddenly igniting political interest with an audience who has the kind of loyalty factor Stern has, it could turn an election."

Harrison explained that a large percentage of Stern's listeners -- some 8 1/2 million a week - were leaning in favor of Bush. "If Stern could turn several million supporters away from Bush, that has even more impact than Rush Limbaugh, who's preaching to the choir."

"On a national level, I don't know how much influence Stern could have," Chuck Todd, editor of The Hotline, a Washington-based daily briefing on politics told the Globe, adding that "we assume too little at our own peril when it comes to Stern and talk radio in general. . . . Does Bush really need to worry about him? If New York were a swing state, we definitely would take this more seriously. Is Stern's popularity as devoted outside of New York? We only know it is ratings-wise."

Stern's audience, Harrison said, is broader than most people realize. "They're not just 18-year-old, beer-drinking yahoos. They're 20- and 30- and 40-something professionals. They're mainstream American citizens who are well-educated and affluent and socially active and politically interested, though not politically active. But they're being motivated. Wouldn't that be amazing if millions of people vote who otherwise wouldn't, because of this issue?"

Adds Todd, "Some people will dismiss Stern not ... because they believe his listeners don't vote. I would argue that a swing voter is just that; they swing between not voting and voting, not between the two parties. So if he brings some nonvoters to the polls, then that's a big impact."

And, Todd pointed out, Stern has used his clout effectively in the past. Stern was briefly the 1994 New York Libertarian Party candidate in the governor's race, before withdrawing and endorsing Republican George Pataki. "One could argue that he had an effect on that New York governor's race, that he was an impact player," Todd says.

Stern's anti-Bush crusade began in earnest, the Globe reported, after the FCC crackdown on "indecency" had inspired Clear Channel - which he calls "Fear Channel" - to remove his show from six cities the week of Feb. 23.

Although Clear Channel's stations provide only a relatively small part of his audience, the action angered Stern.

Says the Globe, "his outrage has boiled to a head with news that Congress is currently considering a radical increase in the amount of FCC indecency fines (from a maximum of $27,500 to $500,000).

"It's over," Stern said on the air. "When the Senate passes that bill, it's over. The show is over. . . We can't do a radio program that's cutting edge . . . if the government keeps second-guessing everything we do."

Stern also insists that Clear Channel dropped him last month not because of indecency on his show but because of some of his Bush criticism earlier in the year. "There's a real good argument to be made that I stopped backing Bush and that's when I got kicked off Clear Channel," he told his listeners earlier this month.

"He is self-aggrandizing if he thinks he's being singled out here," Jeffrey Chester, executive director of the Center for Digital Democracy, a Washington-based advocacy organization told the Globe. "Congress is engaging in this kind of witch hunt generally. I don't think they're singling out Stern for his alleged critical comments against the Bush administration."

Chester says it is unclear whether Kerry will indeed be Stern's "savior," adding "I'm no fan of Howard Stern or Rush Limbaugh... Congress is stampeding to censor a whole range of speech."

[Mich0127]

Howard...stop your whining! The people of America are exercising the same 1st amendment freedom of speech rights that you claim are being trampled on. Your show has gone down the toilet and people are sick of you. This is not about Bush or the Republican party...this is about YOU!

[Mich0127]

BUMP

[fml]

IMHO his show was never cutting edge. Garbage and trash like his have always been able to sneak into the spotlight only to be eventually squashed and replaced by another potty mouth de jour.

[Mich0127]

BUMP

[Andy from Beaverton]

Could Howard Stern Topple Bush?
Do you really think that his listeners can put down their crack pipes, bongs and Johnson's long enough to find a voting booth?

[Sloth]

States where people vote based on Howard Stern's endorsement are not states that Bush is going to win anyway.

[Mich0127]

LOL...good point

[Mike Bates]

I doubt if many Stern fans can find their way to the polling place on Election Day.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

[Mich0127]

I honestly think that the people who hate Bush won't vote for him anyway, and Stern is not going to persuade too many people

[kevkrom]

Stern would only have influence in a close NY or NJ race. If NY or NJ is close -- Kerry is already toast.

[Servant of the 9]

He has been a liberal, a libertarian and a conservative.
Who knows what he will think or say by November.

So9

[yoe]

Freepers go to Google and find a good GOP site for bumper stickers - order 25 - pass them out or take them to your local Republican Hq. and let them pass them out. This is one way we can get the word out that we support President Bush etc. and it is one way to contribute. It is the best advertising there is. Thanks & adios to Howard S. and the rest.

[Bluntpoint]

Stern is a major player with the Consolidated Peep Show Mopboys Union.

He may be able to sway a lot of votes toward some Dem jerk off.

[TommyDale]

Oh, please! What an ego! Stern actually thinks people like him?

[Mich0127]

Exactly...doesn't watching two lesbians getting it on and anal midget ring tossing get boring after a while?

[Puddleglum]

whiney spoiled potty mouth has-been baby

[Owl_Eagle]

 "They're not just 18-year-old, beer-drinking yahoos. They're 20- and 30- and 40-something professionals. They're mainstream American citizens who are well-educated and affluent and socially active and politically interested, though not politically active. But they're being motivated. Wouldn't that be amazing if millions of people vote who otherwise wouldn't, because of this issue?"

 

Ah, but there's the rub.  EVEN with apathetic drag nets like Motor Voter, most of these yahoos won't:

1. Realize it's election day.
2. Know if they're registered.
3. Know what (if anything) they're required to bring to the polling place.
4. Know WHERE the correct polling place is.
5. Be motivated enough to make a special trip to do something they've never done before.

If Stern's listeners are who Harrison says, he's liable to loose 20-25% of his audience with all his Bush bashing.

Yes it would be AMAZING if millions of people vote who otherwise wouldn't, don't bet on it.

Owl_Eagle

" WAR IS PEACE
FREEDOM IS SLAVERY
DIVERSITY IS STRENGTH"

[Lady Jag]

he couldn't topple his mother for crying out loud. Who the hell thinks he could topple Bush?

[clintonh8r]

Does anybody of voting age even listen to him?

[bmwcyle]

Can Howard overcome the memory of the twin towers falling? I don't think so.

[Lucky2]

As a former listener of Stern and his antics, I can say that people do listen. Those who listen however, are the deviants and misfits of society. I seriously doubt Howard will have much to do with Bush losing the election. I think more would vote for Bush because Howard hates him. BTW, Howard used to like him and was a conservative when I first started listening. Howard is as big a flip-flop as kerry!

[aquila48]

Harrison explained that a large percentage of Stern's listeners -- some 8 1/2 million a week - were leaning in favor of Bush. "If Stern could turn several million supporters away from Bush, that has even more impact than Rush Limbaugh, who's preaching to the choir."

Well maybe the opposite will happen - if he continues railing against Bush, the Bush supporters will leave Stern... I'm one of them.

[chachacha]

Well! Kerry sure is getting more popular by the hour. First it's all those foriegn leaders, then the New Spaniard Terrorist supporter and now Howard Stern.

[international american]

Stern has no power to sway anybody!

[The G Man]

Howard's an idiot if he thinks voting Democrats into office will somehow lessen the level of government intervention.

[international american]

Stern does not want to lose his 10-12 million dollar gig:)

[Alberta's Child]

Stern's audience, Harrison said, is broader than most people realize. "They're not just 18-year-old, beer-drinking yahoos. They're 20- and 30- and 40-something professionals.

Baloney. If you've listened to both Howard Stern and Don Imus, a huge difference between the two audiences is evident within ten minutes. Stern's advertisers include a bunch of no-name local companies that I've never heard of, while Imus' advertisers include Mercedes Benz, Jeep, and the New York Stock Exchange.

This is why Imus laughs at all the grief he gets from Howard Stern supporters over Stern's superior ratings -- Stern's ratings are much higher than Imus', and yet Imus advertising revenue is substantially greater.

[bereanway]

"20- and 30- and 40- something professionals"

Professional what?

[sauropod]

He's pathetic. Warped little t*rd!

[FlipWilson]

I was listening to his show that day when the towers fell. Stern was on the air stating the country had "gotten too liberal" and how we needed to kick arse in the Middle East. Funny, the seond he feels his show is threatened, he will abandon all ideals for his own financial gain. I used to think the guy was funny, but now Howard has lost me and will never get me back. Howard fails to realize that some of the things he says on the aire piss everyone off, liberal and conservative alike. I hope Kerry loses, but one consolation I would enjoy is seeing Howard's face if Kerry wins and Howard is still thrown off the aire.

[Williams]

That's what's shameful. He used to know enough to support Bush because of the terrorists. But if you think there's anything sincere about Howard Stern - It's all about saving his money and appealling to the crowd his hot girl friend runs with. Howard's show suffered and so did his credibility when his wife dumped him (gee I wonder why) and he started messing with a hot young babe. He's just a rich pig. And his show now sucks.

[RedEyeJack]

Agree... Almost as boring as listening to Howard and all the "suck-ups" talk abou how important and "cool" they are. I got bored a long time ago with the self aggrandizement. I care nothing about Howard's personal life but that is 90% of the discussion in the 6-7 AM drive hour. No loss for me...

[raloxk]

"States where people vote based on Howard Stern's endorsement are not states that Bush is going to win anyway."


Exactly

BTW Stern never supported Hillary Clinton. The whole gang supported Lazio and suported Senator AL in 1998 against Schumer.

[Montfort]

And even if they get to the polls, they may not know how to cast a ballot.

[adam_az]

Is "shock jock" Howard Stern's voice powerful enough to affect the upcoming presidential election to the extent of sending President Bush packing?

That's what the Boston Globe wants to know, explaining that the liberal talk show host the newspaper describes as a "stripper aficionado, champion of misfits everywhere, all-purpose radio provocateur," has turned his raunchy show into a Bush bashing marathon.

Rush has about 5x as many listeners as Stern, and Rush doesn't waste 3/4 of his time making infantile pee pee poo poo jokes. Also, I suspect many Stern listeners will not bother to go to the polls.

[Trampled by Lambs]

I'd wager that the majority of his audience, of those that would actually bother to vote, will have been Kerry voters anyway. He's just preaching to the choir.

[tomball]

Bingo.

[syriacus]

Could Howard Stern Topple Bush?

I'd like to answer this question with another question?
Which of these two outcomes does Stern prefer?

The world that
Kerry's Coalition of the Unwilling
made for the Vietnamese children
BBC photo of DaNang school children at ceremony commemorating the fall of Saigon

The world that
Bush's Coalition of the Willing
made for the Iraqi children.

[RexBeach]

Howard Stern is a jerk who got very, very lucky. Period.

[Cubs Fan]

Looks like the liberals finally have their radio spokesman.

Whiny, trashy, and stupid. Perfect

[bereanway]

"porn stars..."

Yeah, and that's the high end of his audience.

[Enterprise]

"Those who listen however, are the deviants and misfits of society."

Exactly. Kerry voters.

[StarFan]

"his outrage has boiled to a head with news that Congress is currently considering a radical increase in the amount of FCC indecency fines (from a maximum of $27,500 to $500,000). It's over," Stern said on the air. "When the Senate passes that bill, it's over. The show is over"

What will this pompous ass do should his man Kerry vote with the majority?

[trebb]

I guess foul-Howie is about as powerful as Babs - I don't see either of them putting their names on any slates.

[AngieGOP]

Do you think anyone who listens to Howard Stern regularly would vote for Bush? I can't stand Stern. I thought he was a filth bag 15 years ago. He still is.

[MeekOneGOP]

Could Howard Stern Topple Bush?

Excerpt:

"It's over," Stern said on the air. "When the Senate passes that bill, it's over. The show is over. . . We can't do a radio program that's cutting edge . . . if the government keeps second-guessing everything we do."

Stern also insists that Clear Channel dropped him last month not because of indecency on his show but because of some of his Bush criticism earlier in the year. "There's a real good argument to be made that I stopped backing Bush and that's when I got kicked off Clear Channel," he told his listeners earlier this month.

"He is self-aggrandizing if he thinks he's being singled out here," Jeffrey Chester, executive director of the Center for Digital Democracy, a Washington-based advocacy organization told the Globe. "Congress is engaging in this kind of witch hunt generally. I don't think they're singling out Stern for his alleged critical comments against the Bush administration."

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