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In flagrante in public ... inexcusable
Jewish World Review ^ | 3-16-04 | Leonard Pitts, Jr.

Posted on 03/16/2004 5:08:10 AM PST by SJackson

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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

21 posted on 03/16/2004 8:23:05 AM PST by mhking (Terrorists are vulnerable to silver bullets....and any other bullets.)
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To: MineralMan
Porn is visual and the story about Lot was told with usual biblical modesty. Much more modesty that we'd ever get from CSI, (cum scene investigators) which would describe the acts in detail with their cum cam photo lens thing showing all the mess.
22 posted on 03/16/2004 8:25:41 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: MineralMan
I "knew" somebody would bring that up. Thanks a Lot.
23 posted on 03/16/2004 8:27:39 AM PST by katana
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To: biblewonk
"Porn is visual and the story about Lot was told with usual biblical modesty. Much more modesty that we'd ever get from CSI, (cum scene investigators) which would describe the acts in detail with their cum cam photo lens thing showing all the mess.
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Congratulations for recognizing the Lot story. As for CSI, I've never seen it. Sounds like you're a faithful viewer, though.
24 posted on 03/16/2004 8:27:53 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MineralMan
This guy is the desert, far from civilization, with his two daughters. They don't know if they'll live or die, so the daughters decide to have sex with their father.

Would a story like that be porn?

If I recall correctly, that story is right out of the Old Testament.

25 posted on 03/16/2004 8:29:45 AM PST by JimRed (Fight election fraud! Volunteer as a local poll watcher, challenger or district official.)
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To: MineralMan
Nice try, Godless Atheist. Guess what? The Bible does depict people who (gasp) sin. I don't know why You People seem to think that fact somehow makes the Bible not the word of God.

BTW, does the Bible depict it in living detailed video before your eyes? Didn't think so. The BIBLE AINT PORN !

27 posted on 03/16/2004 8:35:40 AM PST by BSunday
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To: Yossarian
By the way, America's a republican democracy, not a theocracy, thank God.

You you are probably pretty pleased about the progress gay marriage is making too.

28 posted on 03/16/2004 8:37:20 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: biblewonk
You you are probably pretty pleased about the progress gay marriage is making too.

Nope, try again....

29 posted on 03/16/2004 8:38:35 AM PST by Yossarian
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To: MineralMan
And of course you completely ignore the fact that the story of Lot and his daughters has no pictures to go with it.

Again, it has been pointed out that the only people who don't know how to define porn don't want to.

30 posted on 03/16/2004 8:39:46 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: Yossarian
Apart from religion, there is no reason to be against gay marriage, except personal prejudice.
31 posted on 03/16/2004 8:40:02 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: mountaineer
It seems only nine people in America don't know how to define pornography.

That't the old "I know it when I see it" definition. Without relying on that definition, can you define porn?

32 posted on 03/16/2004 8:41:29 AM PST by Modernman (Chthulu for President! Why Vote for the Lesser Evil?)
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To: Modernman
If you set up a movie screen on your front lawn and start playing movies that cause the majority of your neighbors to come over and beat you to a pulp. I would define it as porn.

If you watch the same movies in the privacy of your bedroom, I would define it as your business.
33 posted on 03/16/2004 8:44:02 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: biblewonk
Porn is visual

Literary erotica and/or pornography can be just as sexual and explicit (if not moreso) than pictures or video. Why do you make a distinction between, say Playboy magazine (porn) and "The Story of O" (not porn)?

34 posted on 03/16/2004 8:44:25 AM PST by Modernman (Chthulu for President! Why Vote for the Lesser Evil?)
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To: SJackson
COCOONING: The need to protect oneself from the harsh, unpredictable realities of the outside world.

I think there is an element that wants a certain part of the public off the streets, so to speak, so they can carry on unabated with their lewdness and obnoxious behavior. Once the law abiding folks are secluded away, any thing goes.

35 posted on 03/16/2004 8:49:08 AM PST by oyez (We lead; others follow.)
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To: Modernman
OK, ban that too. If it is really porn and not just the mention of some sex act.
36 posted on 03/16/2004 8:51:40 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: hopespringseternal
"And of course you completely ignore the fact that the story of Lot and his daughters has no pictures to go with it."




No, I don't ignore that at all. Pornography can be in written form, as well as visual. The problem is in defining what is and what is not pornography. I have not seen such a definition on this thread. Perhaps you'd like to take a crack at it.
37 posted on 03/16/2004 8:56:00 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: SJackson
26-year-old Andrea Carlton of Gurnee, Ill., was outraged. "You're not allowed to have sex in your car," she said, "so why are you allowed to watch it?"

Well, all arguments about porn's merit (or lack thereof) aside, this woman needs to get out more. She sounds like a real lights-out, missionary-only, hurry-get-it-over-with kind of gal.

Of course you can have sex in your car! I recommend it, although not while driving, and not while in full public view, of course.

38 posted on 03/16/2004 8:59:46 AM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: BSunday
BTW, does the Bible depict it in living detailed video before your eyes? Didn't think so. The BIBLE AINT PORN !

How about an explicit video recreation of a Biblical event such as this one? Would that be porn, in your view? Why do you make such a distinction between the written word and visual media?

Following your definition, "Lady Chatterly's Lover" and the "Story of O" do not qualify as porn, while nude paintings by Michaelangelo do.

39 posted on 03/16/2004 9:02:27 AM PST by Modernman (Chthulu for President! Why Vote for the Lesser Evil?)
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To: MineralMan
No, I don't ignore that at all. Pornography can be in written form, as well as visual.

Try reading something in another car.

Main Entry: por·nog·ra·phy
Pronunciation: -fE
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek pornographos, adjective, writing about prostitutes, from pornE prostitute + graphein to write; akin to Greek pernanai to sell, poros journey -- more at FARE, CARVE
1 : the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
2 : material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement
3 : the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction

See definitions 1 and 2.

40 posted on 03/16/2004 9:03:48 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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