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Bush willing to allow more H-1B visas
Express India ^ | 3/14/2003 | Press Trust India

Posted on 03/14/2004 3:01:02 PM PST by lelio

Washington, March 14: US President George W Bush has expressed his willingness to issue 12,000 more H-1B visas to the limit of 65,000 already reached.

At a private reception in Los Angeles earlier this month, Bush told Attorney Paresh Shah that he was unaware about the fact that H-1B cases filed in the year 2003 were being applied to the year 2004 H-1B cap, India Post, an ethnic Indian newspaper reported.

Bush told Shah that he was willing to review a proposal to recapture approximately 12,000 H-1B visas into the current year's H-1B cap, the report said.

This would allow the H-1B category to reopen in this current fiscal year until the recaptured H-1B spots are exhausted.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; gop; h1b; immigration; offshoring
Granted this is from a newspaper in India that would like to see more H1b visas.
1 posted on 03/14/2004 3:01:03 PM PST by lelio
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To: lelio
Good morning America !!!!!

2 posted on 03/14/2004 3:02:08 PM PST by traumer (Even paranoids have enemies)
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To: lelio
Yep
3 posted on 03/14/2004 3:02:45 PM PST by international american
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To: lelio
If President Bush does this, that is 12,000 less Americans who have jobs.

And so Bush can kiss his re-election hopes goodbye.
4 posted on 03/14/2004 3:05:49 PM PST by rogueleader
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To: rogueleader
Politically, I think it would be stupid to do this. The best thing to do is practice benign neglect. i.e. don't do anything. If it becomes a campaign issue, look for the level to be cut, not raised.
5 posted on 03/14/2004 3:09:37 PM PST by glorgau
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To: lelio
This is one way to combat outsourcing. It will bring them here, give them decent wages, and we can collect taxes from them that would be lost if their jobs were outsourced to other countries. Because they are working at higher wages here, they will be able to send plenty of money back home which will offset the (their country of origin's) loss of income due to not having the jobs shipped there through outsourcing from here. Everyone wins.
6 posted on 03/14/2004 3:12:09 PM PST by templar
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To: lelio
It seems that in Bush's world there's jobs that Americans won't do and jobs that they will do -- and he wants to bring in lower paid foreigners to do both.
7 posted on 03/14/2004 3:24:22 PM PST by lelio
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To: rogueleader
If President Bush does this, that is 12,000 less Americans who have jobs.

The fact that Americans are losing their jobs hasn't stopped him yet. Why would he change? Both sides show a contempt for the American worker. We have the best politicians corporate money can buy.
8 posted on 03/14/2004 4:46:47 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (SHUT THE DOOR IN 2004!)
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To: lelio
is this guy totally clueless or what?

can he do this by executive order, or does Congress have to stop this?
9 posted on 03/14/2004 4:51:03 PM PST by oceanview
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To: lelio
It's frightening to me that Bush continues to go against policies that are good for America. He either has to blind to the danger this country is facing by his open borders policy, and blind to the number of jobs being outsourced and given away to foreigners, or else there is something really sinister about what is happening in our government now.

He seems blind to the hysteria he is causing his core voters. He scares me to death because I can just see Kerry winning, and Kerry will outsource our security to the UN. Oh well, let Vincente Fox deal with it. He'll be our coPresident in 04, no matter who wins.

10 posted on 03/14/2004 5:00:43 PM PST by swampfox98 (Beyond 2004 - Chaos! 200 million illegals waiting in the wings)
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To: lelio
Thanks George.

Bush-Clinton-Bush Era needs to end.

We need a patriot like Reagan. At least he cared about American workers.
11 posted on 03/14/2004 5:19:03 PM PST by Finalapproach29er (" Permitting homosexuality didn't work out very well for the Roman Empire")
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To: lelio
!

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!?

12 posted on 03/14/2004 5:24:04 PM PST by Dominic Harr
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To: lelio
The bots haven't invaded this thread yet? Amazing!
13 posted on 03/14/2004 5:27:17 PM PST by Doohickey ("This is a hard and dirty war, but when it's over, nothing will ever be too difficult again.)
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To: oceanview
Somehow I get the feeling Bush doesn't really want to win.
14 posted on 03/14/2004 5:54:44 PM PST by AM2000
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To: AM2000
he just doesn't have any input from "real people" on this issue. there is likely some business group or monied corporate interest telling him they "are desperate to hire workers to expand their business, and they can't find any". and he has idiots like Snow, Mankiw and Evans on his economic team who don't filter this kind of stuff and explain to him that every H1B that is brought in, takes the job of an American.

do you think this proposal would pass if Lou Dobbs were Treasury Secretary?
15 posted on 03/14/2004 6:23:39 PM PST by oceanview
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To: lelio
In a related story:

'Special skills draft' on drawing board Computer experts, foreign language specialists lead list of military's needs

16 posted on 03/14/2004 6:41:11 PM PST by sixmil
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To: templar
Foreign workers sending money back home is tantamount to foreign aid. The ability to send money out of country is cheaply is a very important bargaining chip for Mexico to sign the FTAA. There is at least $32 billon going to mexico, central and south America every year, money if earned by Americans would stay in our economy and contribute to our economy and infrastructure.

America and Americans lose when there is a large body of foreign workers and a large outflow of American dollars to foreign countries.
17 posted on 03/14/2004 6:48:06 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: lelio
Bastard!

not you lelio...

18 posted on 03/14/2004 6:50:53 PM PST by null and void (Paranoid? Me? I sure hope so...)
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To: lelio
On this issue, it is clear that Bush favors IT corporations over IT workers. Not just by a little, but 100% behind the corporations. Since there are far more IT people than IT corporations, I would guess that Bush loses the IT vote, but Kerry is probably no different except that he talk about it, but still back corporations.
19 posted on 03/14/2004 7:08:23 PM PST by sixmil
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To: sixmil
Desperate unemployed workers will latch on to any slim reed of hope Kerry offers.

This demographic might be just large enough to sway the election - especially if Bush is seen as helping take jobs away from Americans.

He will be. Kerry and cronies will see to that.

And in a political year perception isn't just reality it compels reality...

20 posted on 03/14/2004 7:17:07 PM PST by null and void (Paranoid? Me? I sure hope so...)
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To: lelio; All
BTTT!!!
21 posted on 03/15/2004 12:46:15 AM PST by Lael (Patent Law...not a single Supreme Court Justice is qualified to take the PTO Bar Exam!)
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To: sixmil
If the IT moaners and groaners on FR, would get their act together, and stop being just a bunch of crybabies, they'd get a job.

There are LOTS of IT jobs now...you just have to be ready top move, know how to send in a resume that doesn't contain a bunch of lies,be good at what you do,and have a good attitude! How do I know this? Because my daughter is a head hunter and is swamped with work.She hasn't been this buy( overwhelmed, more like) in years. She personally knows of something over 400 jobs, right now and they are NOT being outsourced, or filled with H1B applicants.

22 posted on 03/15/2004 12:53:37 AM PST by nopardons
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To: AM2000
I got that same impression from his father in 92. He seemed really tired and just going through the motions in that campaign.
23 posted on 03/15/2004 12:54:00 AM PST by kms61
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To: Doohickey
The bots haven't invaded this thread yet? Amazing!

Maybe they just lurk and Whiner Watch as a pastime.

24 posted on 03/15/2004 1:07:14 AM PST by Consort
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To: null and void
Desperate unemployed workers will latch on to any slim reed of hope Kerry offers.

No, you blew it on that one. I'm a desperate unemployed worker and Kerry will NEVER be my man, no matter how desperate I get.

I don't like a lot of things Bush has done, but I don't like a lot of things about Scary Kerry a whole lot more. Unemployment is NO reason to turn against one's own country.

25 posted on 03/16/2004 8:26:31 AM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: swampfox98
I, too, am increasingly upset and confused at Bush's attitude. As of right now, he needs to get it straightened out. If he wants outsourcing, bringing IT workers here, expanded immigration, he needs to look us in the eye and start getting persuasive.

Right now, he's engaged in a major pretense that either we're not talking, or he doesn't hear us, or that we don't matter.

Loyal Republicans are not slaves. There is a point at which enough of us will be discouraged, feel betrayed, and will stay home. Or, go vote for every Republican office but the presidency.

Fox wouldn't help us in Iraq, has opposed us in the WOT. Other nations got punished for that--Fox got a reward.

Soldiers who come home should get first chance at good jobs--not have to line up behind illegals and foreigners, or watch jobs transferred overseas.

What's loyalty? Does it go only one way?

26 posted on 03/16/2004 8:34:07 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: lelio
Bush told Shah that he was willing to review a proposal to recapture approximately 12,000 H-1B visas into the current year's H-1B cap, the report said.

Put some ice on it America!

27 posted on 03/16/2004 8:36:58 AM PST by Walkin Man
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To: nopardons
</>If the IT moaners and groaners on FR, would get their act together, and stop being just a bunch of crybabies, they'd get a job.

I don't mean to cast aspersions on your daughter, but I sincerely doubt her claim. Here is my experience looking for jobs in or related to the IT industry: 1. The client (employer) will NOT consider anyone from out-of-state (or town), regardless of qualifications. 2. The client posts a job and starts looking at resumes. 1 week goes by, then 2, then 4, then 8. The recruiter (i.e. your daughter) keeps telling you every time you call to see if there is any movement on the job that the client is still working on it but they expect to hear something by the end of the week. The end of the week comes and . . . nothing!! The end of 3 more weeks come along and . . . still nothing. After 4 - 6 months of hoping to hear something about this job that you were originally told the client liked your resume and was interested, you finally find out that the client either a) pulled the funding for the job, b) quietly filled it with another internal resource, c) never got funding from the mother ship for the job to begin with, or d) decided to ship it offshore because there just weren't any applicants for the job, thereby "supporting" the false perception that these are simply jobs that "Americans won't take". (no, during all this time, you don't hold out for this one job; you keep looking, still holding on to the hope that you will get a call from the recruiter that the client wants to interview you or hire you outright). 3. Out of the blue, the client throws in a requirement that the candidate must speak 3 dialects of Swahili using a southwestern U.S. accent for at least two of them, must have 6 toes on the right foot and have been born on the 9th day of a month, precisely at 7:42 P.M. to mixed parents; one must be Amerasian and the other must be a Venutian with a DoD security clearance and an H-1B visa.

The facts are that the jobs aren't here and they aren't coming. Only the promise of jobs and/or the forecasts. Unless your daughter works in India filling IT jobs, American companies are none too eager to hire IT folks with all the expensive certifications that American employers demanded them to get, and then pay them a living wage. Not when Krishna in Mumbai has a PHD in computer science and 57 IT certificates and will work for $1.50/month because the socialist Indian government will cover his other needs. I simply don't believe that your daughter can't find qualified candidates to fill the positions. Her office should be overflowing with resumes if she really has 400 jobs. I don't think she does unless she is talking about jobs dating back to 1997 that they never filled and the req was never closed.

28 posted on 03/16/2004 8:50:26 AM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: DustyMoment
No, you blew it on that one. I'm a desperate unemployed worker and Kerry will NEVER be my man, no matter how desperate I get.

You, unfortunately, are not a typical voter. Have you forgotten that cliton was elected TWICE by typical voters?

29 posted on 03/16/2004 8:54:21 AM PST by null and void (If you stay on the tracks, ignoring the facts ...then you can't blame the wreck on the train.)
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To: DustyMoment
You just gave yourself away...BIG TIME...and you don't even know why you can't get a job!

You won't move. You started right off the bat, with saying that the company wants someone who lives where the job is. Yes, that IS what they want. The rest of your rant is a rant.Something my daughter has talked a lot about to me, about how some people get ignored,because of their attitude.Head hunters just stop calling them for jobs/ignore their resumes.WHY? Because they lie on their resumes, are surly, aren't reliable, don't show up for interviews, play games,etc.

My daughter isn't a liar,she has NO reason to tell me something that isn't true, her office has 400 plus job openings for IT people, as I type. She isn't sending jobs to India and she isn't looking at doing so. What a company does, or requires ( and yes, some DO change requirements, but NOT, as you claim knowing Swahili and Urdu, or whatever )is NOT anything she has any control over and it drives her crazy too.

All I can tell you, is that your experience is your's. It isn't definitive of what's happening. It's far easier to moan and groan and complain and place the blame on others, when some of the problem just may be you;not that I'm casting aspersions on you,either.

30 posted on 03/16/2004 1:23:16 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Au contraire, my friend, I am willing to move anywhere there is a job. But, I'm not about to move somewhere, THEN start looking for jobs that were available the week before and may have gone away while I was moving, ya know? In fact, at the bottom of my resume, in addition to saying I'm willing to travel (and do some other stuff), it also says I'm willing to relocate. Can't tell you how many jobs I have been turned down for because they only want local applicants. In this job market, I have lost the opportunity for jobs simply because my resume arrived at the recruiter's desk an hour later than someone else's. If I take so much as three days to drive from point A to point B so that I can be a "local" applicant, it can be a lifetime.

As for the rest, you're right. A lot of people lie on their resumes, are lazy and won't/can't do the work. I'm not one of them. Once I get started, I'm usually there when my boss shows up or before and I work as long as I am allowed (some companies won't allow a temp to work over 40 hours - whether they are billable or not). So, I don't think an attitude adjustment on my part is necessary. I work hard and enjoy working.

I don't blame you for taking a bit of umbrage at my original reply to you, I probably came off a little harsh. Not having a great day today. Just heard back on a couple of jobs I applied for and was rejected for one because of the location thing and . . . I don't know why on the other; I had all the qualifications.

The experiences I posted had nothing to do with your daughter, she gets trapped with the same stuff because the clients are wishy-washy and pull this stuff. I have seen a lot of recruiters get strung along by clients who change strokes in mid-stream.

However, I admit that my last paragraph did cast aspersions on your daughter with my doubts about her having 400 IT jobs. Chalk it up to a bad day and a boatload of lousy experiences.

Sorry, dad.
31 posted on 03/16/2004 2:26:04 PM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: DustyMoment
I'm truly sorry that you had such a rotten day. I responded to the tone of your post,you're right;but it is now understandable, considering what you're up against.

My daughter REALLY has 400+ jobs open,in her company,is one of THE best head hunters around ( she's been recognized as such, so this isn't just some mother bragging ),and I wish that she could do something to help you.I checked your flag and unfortunately, she has nothing in your area. And THAT may be your problem....where you live.I know that she is looking for people to fill jobs in N.Y., Ill. and other Midwestern states.

Feel free to FREEPmail me, if you think that we can help you.

32 posted on 03/16/2004 2:50:06 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
Errr, sorry MOM!!

(Ooops!)
33 posted on 03/16/2004 3:25:42 PM PST by DustyMoment (Repeal CFR NOW!!)
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To: DustyMoment
LOL
34 posted on 03/16/2004 4:02:25 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Mamzelle
What's loyalty? Does it go only one way?

I echo your sentiments word for word. It saddens me to no end to see Bush deliberately do things which cause Conservatives and other voters to become so angry with him they threaten to stay home from the polls.

Illegal immigration, outsourcing and bringing in foreigners to do American jobs are going to put an end to his presidency in '04. Sometimes I wonder if he even cares.

More and more he reminds me of his father running against Clinton. And from that vapid campaign we were given 8 years of the most criminal administration in the history of this country. I see it happening again.

35 posted on 03/16/2004 4:02:34 PM PST by swampfox98 (Beyond 2004 - Chaos! 200 million illegals waiting in the wings)
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