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The Jobs Crisis and the GOP
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Posted on 03/10/2004 7:16:16 AM PST by Theodore R.

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To: NotchJohnson
My question is what in the world would democrats do?

What they wouldn't do is come out like corporate lap dog idiots and tell you that losing your jobs to foreigners is good for you and America.

21 posted on 03/10/2004 7:55:12 AM PST by lewislynn (The successful globalist employee will be the best educated, working for the lowest possible wage.)
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To: Theodore R.
Democrat business owners are laying off/not hiring workers, Liberal stockbrokers are scaring away investers.....it's a Left-wing conspiracy.
22 posted on 03/10/2004 7:57:29 AM PST by Consort
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To: GingisK
Almost no engineering jobs. Engineers becoming dishwashers is not how to maintain a strong economy or technological advantage.

Can you prove that all the jobs lost were engineering jobs? (And don't call those bubble computer jobs "engineering" jobs)

23 posted on 03/10/2004 7:58:40 AM PST by #3Fan (Kerry to POW-MIA activists: "You'll wish you'd never been born.". Link on my homepage.)
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To: Alberta's Child
"the American dream" is not really something we should aspire to -- since it is probably the one insurmountable obstacle in this issue.

Obstacle in what issue?...Employment?

24 posted on 03/10/2004 7:58:43 AM PST by lewislynn (The successful globalist employee will be the best educated, working for the lowest possible wage.)
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To: LS
You don't have to tell me ANYTHING about self-employment or entepreneurship. I own my own corporation. In fact, our specialty is sending jobs offshore. I certainly don't like it, but it's the only job that GWB has left me to do.
25 posted on 03/10/2004 7:59:10 AM PST by The Duke
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To: Walkin Man
Like clockwork, a Republican takes the White House and jobs take a hit, especially blue collar workers who almost always vote democrat. Great way for the dems to hold onto their base and unions love it.
26 posted on 03/10/2004 7:59:26 AM PST by Toespi
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To: LS
NO ONE is going to pay $80,000 a year for many of these jobs, period.

This is why the practice needs to be illegal: Once there are no longer any engineering jobs in the US, the technological leaders will be those to whom the jobs are outsourced. Once that becomes the "status quo", the United States will get all of its technological products from overseas, including the weapon systems used by the Armed Forces. Those to whom we outsource will not be providing the US with "top of the line" hardware, as that will be reserved for their own use.

Catch the drift? The end of the United States as the world's technological leader is rapidly approaching. So is its status as the ultimate world power. So is you standard of living. This may take a few years, but there is no other ending possible. By the way, this is the plan your leaders have for you.

27 posted on 03/10/2004 7:59:36 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Theodore R.
Actually, there has been a net gain of jobs during the Bush administration domestically.
28 posted on 03/10/2004 8:00:29 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: LS
Even if your analysis is accurate, Bush must do something to defuse this issue or he will lose millions of votes. The dems are succeeding in blaming the GOP for the peoples' job ills.
29 posted on 03/10/2004 8:01:03 AM PST by Truth29
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To: Consort
"Democrat business owners are laying off/not hiring workers, Liberal stockbrokers are scaring away investers.....it's a Left-wing conspiracy."

That's probably the silliest thing I've read on FR in quite some time. Hiltlery and whoever wrote up her "its all a part of a VRWC" would be proud.
30 posted on 03/10/2004 8:01:52 AM PST by KantianBurke (Arguments that got Arnold elected in 02, will get a "moderate" RINO elected to the White House in 08)
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To: Keen-Minded
There are always workers looking for jobs.

Big deal.

Employment is wonderful, lower than Clinton's.

It will be an issue, but not a winning issue for Kerry unless some more major losses occur.
31 posted on 03/10/2004 8:01:53 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: Keen-Minded
How do people whose unemployment relief expires eat?

My brother was laid off a year ago. He has gone into business for himself and is doing well. He has to drive long distances, but he now has TWO Birkenstock shoe stores and is doing very well. Ironically, I can't afford Birkenstock shoes (they start at around $100/pair for the crummy ones), but my brother is selling them hand-over-fist to yuppies and X-gens. If the economy is so bad, where are these buyers of premium shoes coming from?

I watched the local access channel here, and the local school system was touting its vocational-ed program. One of the students was talking about auto mechanics, and how a mechanic is no longer a mechanic, but a technician who must be computer-savvy as well as mechanically inclined. In other words, more education is needed to earn a living today.

There are opportunities out there...but the contract limited, job-definition union days likely are gone forever. The jobs reports lack stats from those who are making their way on their own just fine. DemocRats will exploit the appearance that things are perishing, that's their strategy. But when the truth outs, and I think it will, that DemocRat liberals couldn't care less about prosperity unless it benefits the millionaire limousine liberals like Kerry, Kennedy, Heinz, Castro, et. al., pause for thought will allow the race to tilt to the side favoring less government, generally, and national defense. And that side is with the President.

32 posted on 03/10/2004 8:02:02 AM PST by TheGeezer (If only I had skin as thick as Ann Coulter, and but half her intelligence...)
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To: Keen-Minded
"Employment is wonderful, lower than Clinton's."

I means UNemployment
33 posted on 03/10/2004 8:02:25 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: Peter J. Huss
Right. Things will work out.

I just hope before the election, but that is not likely.
34 posted on 03/10/2004 8:04:00 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: Peter J. Huss
But, right now, things are pretty good and we are in recovery so despite some minor problems with the jobs situation, we should be fine unless they get worse.
35 posted on 03/10/2004 8:04:33 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: coffeebreak
There is no job crisis. The unemployment rate is 5.6% which is excellent. Just because the democrats SAY there is a jobs crisis doesn't mean there is.

I lean the other way. But if you are right and this is what the president is trying to say he's not doing a very good job of it.

Also if family income is down meaning people are working but not making anywhere near what they once were that doesn't help President Bush.

36 posted on 03/10/2004 8:06:11 AM PST by stig
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To: rwfromkansas
So.
This issue is the one the rats and the lib media will hammer GWB with for the rest of the year. It is the one that can win for them. What is perceived will often beat reality. Action needs to be taken and the voters need to see action taken by this administration
37 posted on 03/10/2004 8:06:15 AM PST by TXBSAFH (KILL-9 needs no justification.)
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To: GingisK
Funny, the exact same thing happened in the early 1970s, after Vietnam spun down and the Dhimmicrats killed the Apollo program.

An Engineering Degree is no more a guarantee of life-long employment than any other credential.

Reality: deal with it
38 posted on 03/10/2004 8:07:44 AM PST by Salgak (don't mind me: the orbital mind control lasers are making me write this. . .)
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To: coffeebreak
"There is no job crisis. The unemployment rate is 5.6% which is excellent. Just because the democrats SAY there is a jobs crisis doesn't mean there is."

Covering your eyes and ears and saying it - won't make the issue go away. What is needed is a response that makes sense to the voting public.

Enough of the "outsourcing is good for you in the long run" pablum. The voters are not going to buy it. Today's announcement of a record $43.1billion trade deficit for January is just more fuel for the fire.

Wake up and face the facts - there is a jobless recovery and "job crisis" - NOW.
40 posted on 03/10/2004 8:08:19 AM PST by familyofman
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