Florida Forever - The political urban legend that facts won't kill

National Review Online ^ | March 09, 2004, 8:58 a.m. | Peter Kirsanow

[eureka!]

Those pesky facts. Nonetheless, the Rats will still keep the hate alive with their lies. It's all they have...

[NautiNurse]

there will be a huge turnout for the Florida Democratic primary Tuesday

I live in a very conservative area, and the voter turnout at my precinct has been pathetic today (a county sales tax for land grab is on the ballot).

[alloysteel]

The Floriduh Democrat party is simply not that motivated. There are a few activists running around and trying to rally the troops, but for the most part, there simply isn't much to vote for. The nomination is already pretty much decided, and there are no other state-wide considerations on the ballot. There may be fractionally more Democrats turned out than Republicans, but the overall turnout will be pretty meagre.

[FReethesheeples]

As a Bush Vote Monitor in Palm baech whom Carol ("I'll go to jail for Al Gore") Roberts told I was "Changing the rules after the lection," I see John Kerry committed to election by Thug intimidation, Demo-Vote Fraud, and Election by Litigation, on a scale exceeding Al Gore's terrible precendent.

Beware!

BRAVO!!

Good post. John Kerry is NOT good for America, the economy, military, the war on Terror, or Troop Morale!

Nasty John the Waffling French Undertaker, who is behind the atatacks on GWB's 9/11 ad, per NewsMax & the American Spectator & now the NY Post.

Kerry, who is personally endorsed by Yasser Arafat, Haiti's Aristide, Iran's Mullahs, Traitor "Red Jane" Fonda, Kim Jong Il, (& Kim Il Jong), Mugabe, Marxist thug Chavez of Venezuela, Castro of Cuba, & France's Jacques Chirac, is a weapon of mass economic destruction.

He'll destroy the troops in Iraq, the War on Terrorism,

& the U.S. stock market with all his negative talk and whiny-leftist-liberal sour-puss troop-bashing, Bush-bashing, America-bashing talk & self-aggrandizing, ultra-negative sourpuss whiny elitist personality.

[Izzy Dunne]

Its antidote is a relentless, adamant repetition of the truth.

Which is why Petah, Dan and Tom are working so hard to dispel this myth...

Aren't they?

[Izzy Dunne]

He'll destroy the troops in Iraq, the War on Terrorism, & the U.S. stock market with all his negative talk and whiny-leftist-liberal sour-puss troop-bashing, Bush-bashing, America-bashing talk & self-aggrandizing, ultra-negative sourpuss whiny elitist personality.

Yes, but he'll feel SO good about himself... ;-)

[ladyjane]

Some people want to be victims; the democratic party needs people who want to be victims.

[TommyDale]

"The myth holds that Governor Bush, in league with Secretary of State Katherine Harris, either by design or incompetence, failed to fulfill their electoral responsibilities, resulting in the discriminatory disenfranchisement of thousands of black voters."

Every time this charge is raised, it abruptly meets a dead end when not one 'disenfranchised' black voter can be specified.

[OldFriend]

The truth is that the Florida voters spoke loud and clear about their priorities.........they re-elected Jeb Bush!

[js1138]

there will be a huge turnout for the Florida Democratic primary Tuesday

Is this Tuesday? Is there an election today. You couldn't tell by driving past polling places.

I thought 2002 was the year when florida democrats would roar back.

[Phantom Lord]

black voters, incensed that they were systematically harassed, intimidated and prevented from voting in the 2000 presidential election — the "stolen" election — will stream to the polls in droves.

Mary Frances Berry and her Civil Rights Commission investigation into Florida 2000 were not able to find a single person, registered to vote, who was denied the ability to vote.

[stainlessbanner]

>> The Civil Rights Division found no credible evidence in our investigation that Floridians were intentionally denied their right to vote <<

[MrB]

Can anyone help me with this?

I've heard claims that the NAACP sued and received a settlement (didn't win the case, but won a settlement) over civil rights violations regarding Fla 2000.

I didn't believe it, but didn't have the information to refute it.

[Prodigal Son]

Even if more black than white voters spoiled their ballots by mistake, that's not evidence of a scheme to discriminate on the basis of race, and it certainly doesn't evoke images of dogs and fire hoses.

The problem we're dealing with is difficult for conservatives to grasp because conservatives prefer working with the facts and reality.

The thing is, many blacks and dems in Florida, at this point, actually remember the fire hoses and dogs being turned loose on them to prevent them from voting.

Think about that for a minute. It's a mind blowing thing actually.

They remember and live in a different reality than the one you and I live in. In that reality, Gore won by several hundred million votes but was dragged down kicking and screaming by Satan himself.

Dems don't experience reality the same way you and I do. It looks different to them as they experience it and it looks different in their memories. Physical laws of nature and facts are irrelevent to them.

That's what we're dealing with.

It is almost useless to try to use facts when arguing with a liberal.

[omniscient]

This fantasy is so indelibly burned into the Democrat mindset that it would take nothing less than a lobotomy to eradicate it. It isn't just the harassment/intimidation myth. They also think they were robbed because they weren't allowed a makeup for the butterfly Buchanan votes, and because the Supremes chose to uphold the rule of law.

They are already laying the groundwork for their 2004 coup by creating FUD around the new voting machines. These lunatics are determined to have their way regardless of the will of the people.

[ought-six]

All the Democrats have is hate. They are a hollow shell of a party, kept alive only by their visceral hatred of America in general and George W. Bush in particular.

[FReethesheeples]

;^)

LOL

[eureka!]

Yep. Hopefully, that fact is becoming obvious to the swing voters and disgusting more and more 'Rats a la Zell Miller...

[weegee]

Oliphant Charged With 55 Count of Election Law Violations (3/09/04)

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - Suspended Broward Supervisor of Elections Miriam Oliphant has been charged with 55 counts of violating election laws. Oliphant, already facing a Senate trial for her conduct in office, is accused of not opening polls on time and not keeping them open late enough during the September 2002 primary.