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Litefoot and Jesse Jackson call for OutKast apology
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Posted on 03/08/2004 12:28:23 PM PST by chance33_98

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To: chance33_98
Interesting, Jackson, a black man is angry at Andre 3000, a black man, for wearing green costumes in front of a teepee.
21 posted on 03/08/2004 2:03:24 PM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I got some new underwear the other day. Well, new to me.)
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To: BlueNgold
Voting member of the nation ... not offended ... thought the girls looked kinda hot ... stopped looking for excuses to get mad when I got old enough to vote ...

Odd Irony: When white kids are dressing like rappers they are glorifying the hoodlum lifestyle .. when rappers dress like natives they are mocking us?

Maybe they like the style, appreciate the culture, and were paying us props without walking up to a podium and making a speech to explain and get permission.

Ya'at'eh BlueNgold. There is a stange order to things I have learned. Certain people can not protect their culture or express indignation over what they may consider offensive. Why? And there are those that need only to cry one word and all stand behind them. Why is that?

Looking at the pictures, yeah, the girls are hot

22 posted on 03/08/2004 2:07:08 PM PST by NativeSon
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To: NativeSon
I support him going after OutKast for this, because who else would?

If he willingly chooses to associate with Jesse Jackson, that's all I need to know about him.

For all those our there who think this is making a big deal over nothing a good deal of you are hypocrites.

I think this is making a big deal over nothing.

23 posted on 03/08/2004 2:07:52 PM PST by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: cyborg
OutKast is not gangsta-rap.
24 posted on 03/08/2004 2:08:58 PM PST by ServesURight (FReecerely Yours,)
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To: CyberCowboy777
This is absolute B.S. - I happen to be a White American Male (who happens to be of Cherokee roots) - the minority whipping boy. I get slammed daily on every network, in print and on the radio.

And so you sit there and take it? That doesn't mean that guy (Litefoot) should.

and you're 'minority' How? <-- pun intended

25 posted on 03/08/2004 2:09:26 PM PST by NativeSon
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To: NativeSon
How many Americans total?

How many White Males?

I never said he should just take it (though I think it is a silly thing to get upset about). I simply rebuke the idea that Native Americans are the only minority with a target on their backs.

How many times has the tribe been mocked on national TV in the last year?
26 posted on 03/08/2004 2:13:28 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (We should never ever apologize for who we are, what we believe in, and what we stand for.)
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To: Sloth
I think this is making a big deal over nothing.

American Indians have been getting the sh*tty end of the stick for a long time. I seen on freepers time and again people supporting other 'minorities' for religious or ethnic reasons. Why not American Indian? I'm no fan of JJ and I'm not of Litefoot's tribe but if he gets the point across...

27 posted on 03/08/2004 2:13:41 PM PST by NativeSon
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To: ServesURight
I know, I was just being a bit sarcastic :) Outkast is rap, but 5OCent yeah he's still gangsta rap. I don't listen to much in the gangsta subgenre too much cussing.
28 posted on 03/08/2004 2:13:47 PM PST by cyborg (In die begin het God die hemel en die aarde geskape.)
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To: Sloth
His choice of trench buddies is interesting. JJ is a parasite and a race monger.
29 posted on 03/08/2004 2:16:50 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (We should never ever apologize for who we are, what we believe in, and what we stand for.)
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To: NativeSon; Chad Fairbanks
I have stood up for Native Americans on more than one occasion on this board. My position has nothing to do with some hatred or acceptance of Tribal ridicule. Just common sense.

Litefoot seems to be after publicity IMHO.
30 posted on 03/08/2004 2:19:52 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (We should never ever apologize for who we are, what we believe in, and what we stand for.)
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To: CyberCowboy777
I'll risk it and say that AI's are the smaller group of Americans

You're right, other people have targets on their backs but the uber-left is always there for them.

Just think about what happens when one group of Americans has a problem with a movie based on the Christian Bible, all of the media left has been getting in line to kick Mel Gibson. Over what?

Shouldn't the left here (grammy folks) be then sensitive to AI's? The garb and dances being part of culture and religion? Why are they not now screaming racism?

As far as TV goes, I don't what much, it's mostly cr@p - but those mascotts get a lot of air time...

31 posted on 03/08/2004 2:20:30 PM PST by NativeSon
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To: NativeSon
I do not deny hypocrisy on the part of the left, the AI are a lock vote for them.


And yes their are fewer AIs than WMs - but WMs get hit a lot harder more often than any other minority.

WMs are the group of hatred (especially Christan White Males), second only to the "rich white men" subset group.
32 posted on 03/08/2004 2:27:26 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (We should never ever apologize for who we are, what we believe in, and what we stand for.)
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To: CyberCowboy777
Litefoot seems to be after publicity IMHO.

Could be. The real funny thing is that AI's that I know wouldn't care about this, their main wish is to left alone. My Mom for instance is not easily offended - believe me, I have two brothers and we know. But I am political and I see things in the light of politics and the game. If this were another 'bankable' minority there would be h*ll to pay.

Remember when Ted Dansen (?)did the black face thing?

33 posted on 03/08/2004 2:28:30 PM PST by NativeSon
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To: NativeSon
I agree completely, there is a double standard by the left.

But then the AIs still vote hard left. They want to be left alone, then why vote for Democrats?
34 posted on 03/08/2004 2:31:42 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (We should never ever apologize for who we are, what we believe in, and what we stand for.)
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To: CyberCowboy777
WMs are the group of hatred (especially Christan White Males), second only to the "rich white men" subset group.

That's because you had the nerve to go an invent everything and make the world a better place- makes people angry.

WM's are hated and AI's are ignored. And not all AI's are 'Rats, many just seem to vote that way...

35 posted on 03/08/2004 2:33:09 PM PST by NativeSon
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To: NativeSon
I don't mean to generalize, just the trends.

Maybe they distrust the rich WMs? Lord knows they have not be treated fairly in the past. But the (D)'s could care less except when they need a win in SD.
36 posted on 03/08/2004 2:36:44 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (We should never ever apologize for who we are, what we believe in, and what we stand for.)
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To: CyberCowboy777
They want to be left alone, then why vote for Democrats?

That's a good question and I have an answer, it involves the addiction of government dependancy. The same thing that Black Americans are falling into. More than any weapon, any policy or any disease what was most damaging to Indians was becoming dependant upon the gub'mint for survival.

37 posted on 03/08/2004 2:37:10 PM PST by NativeSon
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To: NativeSon
On this we agree.

I want freedom for AIs and I want to uphold contracts (though I'd like to see a compromise to change some things), but on a issue of offense by a "artist"? Get in line or better yet, join up with us. We might not make the Braves change their name, but wholesale upward movement of the AI people will do more for pride and self worth than any government sanctioned whine fest.
38 posted on 03/08/2004 2:41:15 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (We should never ever apologize for who we are, what we believe in, and what we stand for.)
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To: CyberCowboy777
We might not make the Braves change their name, but wholesale upward movement of the AI people will do more for pride and self worth than any government sanctioned whine fest.

I have no problem using the tools of the Left against them. If that includes going after another 'minority' the better. How can the Left ignore this?

My gripe is that most people respect that other folks are offended by certain words or symbols and that people will generally refrain from using them. If I call someone on here a nice slur I may be booted, call me a R*dskin and nothing.

39 posted on 03/08/2004 2:46:48 PM PST by NativeSon
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To: NativeSon
Well you do have it bad.... Male, AI and Conservative.

Try being called a "Fundamentalist" and all that implies each night on broadcast TV.
40 posted on 03/08/2004 2:51:32 PM PST by CyberCowboy777 (We should never ever apologize for who we are, what we believe in, and what we stand for.)
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