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Brain Changes Seen in Gay Sheep, U.S. Study Finds
reuters uk ^ | 3/8/04

Posted on 03/07/2004 5:32:14 PM PST by knak

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Researchers who found homosexual rams in a herd of sheep said they had found changes in the brains of the "gay" animals.

The results, published in the latest issue of the Journal Endocrinology, tend to support studies in humans that have found anatomical differences between the brains of heterosexual men and homosexual men.

The researchers at the Oregon Health & Science University School of Medicine found certain groups of brain cells were different between rams and ewes in a part of the sheep brain controlling sexual behavior.

And in rams that preferred to mate with other males, this area was smaller than in males that preferred females.

"There's a difference in the brain that is correlated with sexual partner preference rather than gender of the animal you're looking at," said Kay Larkin, an OHSU electron microscopist who worked on the study.

"This particular study, along with others, strongly suggests that sexual preference is biologically determined in animals, and possibly in humans," added Charles Roselli, a professor of physiology and pharmacology who led the research team.

"The hope is that the study of these brain differences will provide clues to the processes involved in the development of heterosexual, as well as homosexual behavior."

Animal experts have found that about 8 percent of domestic rams display preferences for other males as sexual partners.

"Same-sex attraction is widespread across many different species," said Roselli, who worked with a team at Oregon State University and the U.S. Department of Agriculture's U.S. Sheep Experiment Station in Dubois, Idaho.

They looked at 27 adult, 4-year-old sheep of mixed Western breeds including eight male sheep that preferred to mate with females, nine that mated mostly with males and 10 ewes.

They found a densely packed cluster of nerve cells in the hypothalamus of the sheep brain, which they named the ovine sexually dimorphic nucleus or oSDN.

The hypothalamus regulates sex hormone secretion, blood pressure, body temperature, water balance, and food intake, and also helps regulate complex behaviors such as sexual behavior.

The oSDN in rams that preferred females was "significantly" larger and contained more neurons than in male-oriented rams and in ewes. There were also hormonal differences between the brains of homosexual and heterosexual sheep.


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ok, maybe they'll find a cure and stop all the nonsense!
1 posted on 03/07/2004 5:32:14 PM PST by knak
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To: knak
Actually maybe theyll find a gene that can be dectected in a fetus, then the mother can practice her "right to choose"

that would cause a crack up on the left
2 posted on 03/07/2004 5:33:37 PM PST by raloxk
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To: knak
Bahhhhhhhh Fabulous !!!!!
3 posted on 03/07/2004 5:34:37 PM PST by cmsgop ( HAS ANYONE SEEN Spalding Grey ?)
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To: knak
So they have mental problems?
4 posted on 03/07/2004 5:34:47 PM PST by chance33_98 (Check out profile page for banners, if you need one freepmail me and I will make one for you)
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To: knak
Actually its the opposite, homosexaul behavior results in abnormality in the brain
5 posted on 03/07/2004 5:36:39 PM PST by apackof2 (I won't be satisfied until I am too smart for my own good)
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To: knak
Shear folly.
6 posted on 03/07/2004 5:37:52 PM PST by exit82 (Toll free number for the Capitol switchboard:1-800-648-3516--let your reps in DC know what you think)
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To: knak
wow what a major breakthrough!!! now just tell all the homo's to stop smashing their heads together and we can cure homosexuality once and for all.
7 posted on 03/07/2004 5:38:01 PM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: knak
Queer Eye for the Sheep Guy.
8 posted on 03/07/2004 5:48:45 PM PST by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: knak
Frisco Mayor to Marry Sheep

(You know it's coming.)

9 posted on 03/07/2004 5:49:05 PM PST by atomicpossum (Fun pics in my profile)
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To: raloxk
Good one! :-)
10 posted on 03/07/2004 5:50:12 PM PST by Avenger
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To: knak
***Animal experts have found that about 8 percent of domestic rams display preferences for other males as sexual partners.***

Now, wait a minute. Something is too PC here.
These Animals are not sexually active all year long, but only once a year. When the female ewe (Pronounced "you") ovulates she gives off an odor that attracts the males. So, HOW DO THESE MALES ATTRACT OTHER MALES IF THEY DO NOT OVULATE?
The same goes for several other species.
11 posted on 03/07/2004 5:50:52 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: knak
I wonder if the rams actually prefer other rams or is it because they are rejected by the ewes? Maybe the females recognize some undesireable trait in these males that make them poor choices as mates.
12 posted on 03/07/2004 5:51:13 PM PST by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: exit82
Ewe are getting rambunctious. He said sheepishly.
13 posted on 03/07/2004 5:52:00 PM PST by speedy
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To: knak
Well that explains that sheepish grin Barney Franks always has.
14 posted on 03/07/2004 5:52:36 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Why the long face, John?)
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To: mollynme
Could also be that most of the rams are penned up together and away from the ewes to prevent fighting.
15 posted on 03/07/2004 5:53:06 PM PST by CWOJackson (What are you complaining about, she called me compassionate...)
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To: knak
And in rams that preferred to mate with other males, this area was smaller than in males that preferred females.

Maybe they're just stupid. They always miss the obvious.

16 posted on 03/07/2004 5:53:12 PM PST by atomicpossum (Fun pics in my profile)
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To: knak
Sorry, this is junk science taken to ridiculous proportions. Any farmer will tell you that animals get confused by scent and season. Besides, males don't "mate" with other males and females don't "mate" with females.

Oh, the lies....

17 posted on 03/07/2004 5:54:25 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: mollynme

I dont want to meet up with a homosexual ram like this one.

18 posted on 03/07/2004 5:55:04 PM PST by corkoman (Logged in - have you?)
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To: speedy
Wool you stop punning?

Say, you signed up at FR a day before I did. Another Class of '98 member.
19 posted on 03/07/2004 5:55:41 PM PST by exit82 (Toll free number for the Capitol switchboard:1-800-648-3516--let your reps in DC know what you think)
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To: CWOJackson
I don't care about why/how a person is homosexual, but this study is a load of crap.

Unneutered male animals will mount anything in sight. Ask a farmer or a pet owner. If anything maybe the genetic abnormality is an inability to tell which animals are females in heat.
20 posted on 03/07/2004 5:57:24 PM PST by Nataku X (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com">Miserable Failure</a>)
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To: knak
I really wouldn't be suprised if the act did cause changes in the brain. The bible says they receive into their own bodies the just recompense for their actions. Perhaps these changes are what that scripture refers to.
21 posted on 03/07/2004 5:57:48 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: atomicpossum
Do you mean officiating over the marriage, or as one of the spouses?
22 posted on 03/07/2004 5:57:56 PM PST by RichInOC (...are they going to have to start doing BSE testing for marriage licenses?)
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To: knak
There is still not clue about which comes first,

the chicken [poker] or the egg.

Is the smaller size a function of genetics or behavior more?
23 posted on 03/07/2004 5:59:21 PM PST by Quix (Choose this day whom U will serve: Shrillery & demonic goons or The King of Kings and Lord of Lords)
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To: apackof2; knak
Actually its the opposite, homosexaul behavior results in abnormality in the brain

Not quite. This study and others are following up on ground breaking research by Simon LeVay in the 90s. He showed that certain hypothalamic structures (part of the brain involved in controlling sexual function) were different in homosexual men when compared to heterosexual men and were closer to size and density to female hypothalami. In other animals, the structures are known as "sexually dimorphic nuclei." The development of these structures determine the sexual behavior.

In essence, there is a large portion of homosexual men that have a physiological developmental disorder - these brain structures failed to develop in the normal masculine pattern. They have a physiological defect.

There are homosexual men that have suffered sexual abuse and trauma at a young age and thus the homosexuality is a behavioral symptom from that abuse. These show normal brain structures but abnormal behavior. The problem is a psychological defect.

Thus a "cure" is problematic. A psychological cure will not correct a physiological defect and a treatment for the physiological defect will not cure a mental problem.

24 posted on 03/07/2004 5:59:48 PM PST by Ophiucus
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To: knak
Queer sheep, it figures, birds of a feather et all.
25 posted on 03/07/2004 6:01:14 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: knak
It has also been found that the rams who wear ewes clothing have a higher incidence of sperm deprivation
26 posted on 03/07/2004 6:02:18 PM PST by woofie ( 99% of lawyers give the rest a bad name.)
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To: corkoman
Me so horrrrnnnny.
27 posted on 03/07/2004 6:02:45 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Nakatu X
Some dogs prefer to mate with pant legs,
28 posted on 03/07/2004 6:04:15 PM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: CholeraJoe; xsmommy
Sheep Lie

;-)
29 posted on 03/07/2004 6:04:57 PM PST by RikaStrom (When picking allies, 2 things to consider: 1) Can they shoot, 2) Will they aim at your enemies?)
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To: shaggy eel
Ping (from Minnesota, where we are visiting the frozen tundra)
30 posted on 03/07/2004 6:05:18 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Gay marriage is for suckers...)
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To: ErnBatavia
,,, Minnesota is a long way to run to.
31 posted on 03/07/2004 6:06:38 PM PST by shaggy eel
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To: corkoman
Researchers who found homosexual rams in a herd of sheep said they had found changes in the brains of the "gay" animals.

When they find 'em, do they wish to be married?

This could be big...

32 posted on 03/07/2004 6:06:39 PM PST by Libloather (Will RATs ever learn? All I can do is hope not...)
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To: apackof2
homosexaul behavior results in abnormality in the brain

I believe you are correct. The abnormality is an effect rather than a cause.
Not surprising.
Similar brain studies done were reported on after Columbine irt the effects of playing violent video games. Violence was proven to cause a definite alteration, a "re-wiring", of the brain. It was in Newsweek.
But then again, Jesus told us that people will reap what they sow, but who wants to think it will happen them or their brain?
Our ignorance is great.

33 posted on 03/07/2004 6:07:20 PM PST by ThirstyMan
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To: knak
Whenever the gay lobby pulls out this "other species" nonsense, I ask if studies have been done to demonstrate that other species also have a small minority of the population that preys on pups, babies, (whatever the appropriate term for the species in question). The answer is most likely yes. Doesn't make it right for a pedo to prey on kids, even if the desire is genetically driven. Likewise, acting out on homosexuality is not by detault, ok, if homosexuality is a genetic trait. One must still ask if the presence of the trait, or at least giving in to it, is good for society.

Certain diseases are inherited - genetics. Doesn't make the disease acceptable. We look for a cure. We don't have to hate the diseased, but we don't have to love the disease.

I don't care all that much what two men or two women do really. When they get in my face though, or try to push it on my kids as normal, encouraging them to try it, that is when I start to care.

34 posted on 03/07/2004 6:07:40 PM PST by bluefish
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To: exit82
Ah, now there was a year. Okay, no more barnyard puns. I'll go on the lamb for now (but let's not get started on cattle!!)
35 posted on 03/07/2004 6:08:07 PM PST by speedy
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To: ErnBatavia
(from Minnesota, where we are visiting the frozen tundra)

Visit - or inhabit?

36 posted on 03/07/2004 6:09:50 PM PST by Libloather (Will RATs ever learn? All I can do is hope not...)
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To: ErnBatavia; Coop
"And in rams that preferred to mate with other males..."

What a delightful eupehmism. "Mating" infers procreation. Unless they're making little sheep lawyers, I don't see how this can be called mating.
37 posted on 03/07/2004 6:10:36 PM PST by IGOTMINE (We are being incrementally criminalized by a government that does not trust us with firearms.)
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To: Nakatu X
And in fairness to livestock and pets, they are base animals with limited ability to rationalize. They respond mostly from instinct and have no values or moral code. They are expected to act like...well, animals.
38 posted on 03/07/2004 6:11:01 PM PST by CWOJackson (What are you complaining about, she called me compassionate...)
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To: knak
certain groups of brain cells were different between rams and ewes in a part of the sheep brain controlling sexual behavior.

And in rams that preferred to mate with other males, this area was smaller than in males that preferred females.

Too dumb to f***!
(The right way ;-)

39 posted on 03/07/2004 6:11:40 PM PST by StriperSniper (Manuel Miranda - Whistleblower)
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To: knak
Either these scientists have an agenda or somebody's gone and pulled the wool over their eyes.
40 posted on 03/07/2004 6:12:07 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Democrats want to ban sex with animals! They may get hurt!)
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What a load of garbage. Anyone who has spent any time at all around animals knows that males (or females) mount a member of the same sex for dominance - not copulation.

I grew up on a farm (Nebraska) and have witnessed such mountings more than I can say. However, I've never seen a male pass up a female (in heat) to mount another male - it just doesn't happen. There are no homosexual animals.
41 posted on 03/07/2004 6:12:13 PM PST by Tahts-a-dats-ago
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To: Ursus arctos horribilis
Me so horrrrnnnny.

Me love ewe long time.

42 posted on 03/07/2004 6:12:55 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Tahts-a-dats-ago
Junk Science again
43 posted on 03/07/2004 6:13:54 PM PST by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: knak
If that is the real aim of the research.
44 posted on 03/07/2004 6:15:05 PM PST by Twinkie
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To: knak
Lobotomizing the defect out of the brain sounds like a reasonable place to start.

miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure war criminal

45 posted on 03/07/2004 6:16:54 PM PST by Fun Bob
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To: RikaStrom
I'm truly stunned that nobody else from class has picked up on this yet!
46 posted on 03/07/2004 6:17:05 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick
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To: RichInOC
Do you mean officiating over the marriage, or as one of the spouses?

In San Francisco, it's even money on either.

47 posted on 03/07/2004 6:23:32 PM PST by atomicpossum (Fun pics in my profile)
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To: Ophiucus
Not quite. This study and others are following up on ground breaking research by Simon LeVay in the 90s. He showed that certain hypothalamic structures (part of the brain involved in controlling sexual function) were different in homosexual men when compared to heterosexual men and were closer to size and density to female hypothalami.

Homosexuality is a natural phenomenon which is perfectly compatible with a rewarding and fulfilling life

Studies done by homosexual activists are always trying to prove the above proposition. So far none of their research has been scientific enough to pass peer review. The "gay gene" theory has been disavowed by all, except the dream lives on among the wishful thinkers and still lives on as a social mythology.

So "not quite" back to you Ophiucus. So far all these "researchers" have presented are biased attempts at legitimatizing a deviant and morally inferior lifestyle. Dan Quayle was correct, biblically and physically, [not "pc" though] when he said that homosexuality is a bad moral choice.

48 posted on 03/07/2004 6:32:00 PM PST by ThirstyMan
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To: NYC GOP Chick
Just as I thought....arrested development.
49 posted on 03/07/2004 6:34:31 PM PST by Carolinamom (Currently re-programming my thinking to positive mode.)
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So did the ram want to get married?
50 posted on 03/07/2004 6:37:38 PM PST by AufSchatten18
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