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SIDS RESEARCH PROVING CAUSE-Not being talked about!!!
Victory Over Crib Death ^ | June 6, 2000 | Lendon H. Smith, MD, with Joseph G. Hattersley, MA

Posted on 03/03/2004 4:34:24 PM PST by cameronsmom

Why doesnt anyone bring this up in the mainstream media? Let me know what you think!!! I think that all the evidence is there.

http://www.mercola.com/2000/nov/5/victory_over_sids.htm

It explains that babies are inhaling gases that are being emitted from the mattress, and its the gases that are causing the deaths. It also says that SIDS can be prevented by wrapping the mattress a certain way in a polyethylene plastic, or by purchasing a specific cover which contains the polyethylene.

I quoted these from: http://www.preventcribdeath.com/site/452285/page/45030

"it is caused by very toxic nerve gases which can be generated from mattresses and certain other bedding used in babies' cribs. These toxic nerve gases are generated when compounds of phosphorus, arsenic and/or antimony in the bedding combine with household fungus which commonly grows in bedding."

"These gases (which are all anticholinesterase agents), when inhaled by a baby or absorbed through the baby’s skin in a lethal dose, shut down the baby’s central nervous system, stopping breathing and then heart function. Thus the cause of crib death is not medical – it is the result of environmental poisoning. The baby can be fatally poisoned without waking and without physical struggle. "


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: crib; cribdeath; death; infant; junkscience; sids; sudden; syndrome

1 posted on 03/03/2004 4:34:25 PM PST by cameronsmom
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To: RhoTheta; Eb Wilson
Not sure I buy this, but figured I'd ping you on it anyway...
2 posted on 03/03/2004 4:41:39 PM PST by Egon (Yo, PETA: Salad = Food of my Food! Feel free to stumble into a pigpen, so I can eat you too!)
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To: cameronsmom
SIDS has been around for decades......long before mattresses were made out of synthetics. Some babies die outside in their baby carriages and they were placed face up in the outdoors so it would hardly be attributed to toxic chemicals.
3 posted on 03/03/2004 4:43:34 PM PST by OldFriend (Always understand, even if you remain among the few)
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To: cameronsmom
Why doesnt anyone bring this up in the mainstream media?

Possibly because it's one of those plausible sounding theories with no supporting evidence.

4 posted on 03/03/2004 4:46:27 PM PST by js1138
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To: OldFriend
Yup. This sounds like it may be backed by a barrister with an aching need for a class action suit against mattress manufacturers.
5 posted on 03/03/2004 4:47:26 PM PST by JennysCool
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To: JennysCool
Senator Edwards is looking for work and is rather adept at these medical lawsuits, maybe he'd take the case.
6 posted on 03/03/2004 4:51:14 PM PST by Weimdog
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To: cameronsmom
OldFriend is right. crib death was around before poly ester etc.

And I saw cases in africa, where there were no mattresses.
7 posted on 03/03/2004 4:53:16 PM PST by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: OldFriend
My inlaws had given us a mattress that my husband was concieved on, (30+ years ago) and it had synthetics in it.

The SIDS rate has gone up dramatically though (until the bcak to sleep campaign). And even decades ago, the children could have died of other reasons and the reason not known due to lack of technology.

Doesnt it make sense though?


8 posted on 03/03/2004 4:53:22 PM PST by cameronsmom
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To: cameronsmom
Sorry, it may account for a certain percentage of crib deaths, but I doubt it is a major factor.
9 posted on 03/03/2004 4:53:43 PM PST by ValerieUSA
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To: ValerieUSA
Does it matter if the tag has been removed?
10 posted on 03/03/2004 4:55:18 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: cameronsmom
Interesting. I head up the microfilm dept. of our County Clerk of Courts office. I have all the old coroners's reports. We are filmed up to and including 1935. I remember seeing infant deaths that are usually due to suffocation in blankets and other causes. Don't remember many 'unknowns'. I'll have to look at later coroner's reports and make some comparisons. Might be interesting to take a closer looke at this - just for interests sake.
11 posted on 03/03/2004 4:55:42 PM PST by sneakers
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To: js1138
Again taken from the prevent crib death site:

"According to Dr Sprott (who has a PhD in chemistry and is expert in the gas generation concerned), every step in the toxic gas theory for crib death has
been proved. And the eight-year New Zealand experience provides practical proof that mattress-wrapping prevents crib death.

Some orthodox crib death researchers say that crib death rates in various countries have fallen without the introduction of mattress-wrapping – and they have. But there is a crucial difference: many babies have died of crib death where parents followed orthodox crib death prevention advice; but there has been no reported crib death on mattresses wrapped in accordance with the mattress-wrapping protocol.

Unlike orthodox advice, mattress-wrapping has a 100% success record in crib death prevention. "
12 posted on 03/03/2004 4:56:11 PM PST by cameronsmom
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To: Weimdog
I thought he was going to be in the commercial business...for hair care...
13 posted on 03/03/2004 4:59:50 PM PST by cameronsmom
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To: cameronsmom
I would be skeptical of anyone claiming 100% success in preventing crib death. This has been around as long as written history. There are obviously multiple causes.
14 posted on 03/03/2004 5:00:07 PM PST by js1138
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To: sneakers
Would they have taken blood samples? and if so, would they have been tested for chemicals in the blood.
15 posted on 03/03/2004 5:01:01 PM PST by cameronsmom
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To: cameronsmom
The early coroner's records we have are very basic. They just give name, age and cause of death. Sometimes, other details are included, but that was the exception rather than the rule. I don't recall references to blood tests. I'm not sure when the technology for blood-testing was developed.
16 posted on 03/03/2004 5:07:33 PM PST by sneakers
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To: cameronsmom
There are abundant symptoms of such poisoning long before it becomes fatal. Do a Google search on cholinesterase.
17 posted on 03/03/2004 5:11:26 PM PST by zebra 2
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To: cameronsmom
NO!!.. GET OUT OF HERE!..(pushing away as Elaine on Seinfeld)
18 posted on 03/03/2004 5:31:12 PM PST by hosepipe
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To: js1138
Sounds like a pitch by polyethylene manufacturers..
19 posted on 03/03/2004 5:43:32 PM PST by tcuoohjohn (Follow The Money)
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To: cameronsmom
So what else do we have to go on? I would rather wrap my son's crib mattress, or get one of those babysafe covers, than read the article and find out later that the article was right.

I just think that it needs to be considered, to anyone who knows anyone with babies, or plans on having one.
20 posted on 03/03/2004 8:04:48 PM PST by cameronsmom
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To: cameronsmom
I just think that it needs to be considered, to anyone who knows anyone with babies, or plans on having one.

You are right ov course, everything must be considered. But if a death could be blamed on a crib, don't you think a cleaver attorney and a distressed family could have a fortune given the state of our tort laws? And why don't you think this has made the news?

21 posted on 03/03/2004 8:26:11 PM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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To: cameronsmom
I have know this for 1 1/2 years I bought an all cotton mattress for our son it was about $275.00 but it is worth it. There is poison in the fire retardant in the mattress. New Zealand and England have banned them..
22 posted on 03/03/2004 8:33:16 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: Brimack34
New Zealand and England have banned them..

Oh gosh... that just seals it. Stalwarts of science, those.

Piffle. Plastics just don't release "toxic gases" as the article claims. This is junk science looking for a gullible jury.

23 posted on 03/03/2004 8:42:57 PM PST by Ramius
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Does it matter if the tag has been removed?

THAT'S AGAINST THE LAW!

24 posted on 03/03/2004 8:47:14 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: cameronsmom
SIDS is a fancy way for a doctor to say "We don't know what caused your baby's death".
25 posted on 03/03/2004 8:49:47 PM PST by mikegi
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To: sneakers
Starting in 1992, California was required to do complete testing on all suspected SIDS deaths including blood tests.

My son died the year before from SIDS, but since we were in Orange County, these tests were already being done and no toxic chemicals were found. That is the only way to get a true SIDS finding. No findings of any kind, then you can say it was a SIDS death. (This was six months before the change in baby sleep positions was announced.)

I thank God for the courage he gave me those days to go on.
I now have a beautiful daughter who is 10. God is good.
26 posted on 03/03/2004 9:02:12 PM PST by TruthConquers ("Who will liberate us from these tyrants of secularist tolerance?")
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To: cameronsmom
I was told years ago by a friend who had researched SIDS that there were no cases of SIDS when the baby was sleeping with another person: that all SIDS cases were babies sleeping alone.

I have no idea where she got her information but I thought I'd throw this out there for any of you who might be interested.

If there's a chance it could make a difference then it's worth posting.
27 posted on 03/03/2004 9:11:14 PM PST by pax_et_bonum (Always finish what you st)
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To: pax_et_bonum
I am not sure if that is true or not. I have heard that it is less likely that a co-sleeper will die of SIDS, and then I have heard that co-sleeping is bad also.

From what I gather from this, SIDS is caused because of chemical reaction and the inhalation of those gasses. I believe most if not all mattress manufacturers use chemicals. That being the case, it wouldnt matter if it is a crib, or a normal bed.

Co-sleeping poses the risk of suffocation, if a parent were to smother the child, or strangulation, if a parent's hair was long enough. There are many possibilities of what could happen.

I dont think that a coroner would put on a death certificate, cause of death, "SIDS" (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) and also put suffocation, because then it wouldnt be SIDS. If the cause of death is unknown, then maybe it was SIDS, and the child was never tested for having the gasses in its system.

According to research from the sids.org site:

"SIDS is the sudden death of an infant under one year of age which remains unexplained after a thorough case investigation, including performance of a complete autopsy, examination of the death scene, and review of the clinical history. (Willinger et al, 1991)."
28 posted on 03/04/2004 1:03:18 AM PST by cameronsmom
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To: TruthConquers
God bless you. I have never lost a child myself, but my sister lost her son two years ago. He was not a baby - he was 23. I watched her in her agony and I can't imagine anything worse to have to go thru. God has asked the ultimate from her and from you. I am so glad He has gifted you with your daughter.

Blessings,
sneakers
29 posted on 03/04/2004 4:11:56 AM PST by sneakers
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To: cameronsmom
Now that tobacco and asbestos returns are trailing off, I suspect the trial lawyers are gearing up for an all out assault on mold.
30 posted on 03/04/2004 4:19:34 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Who would a terrorist vote for?)
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To: cameronsmom
My inlaws had given us a mattress that my husband was concieved on...

Do you have it displayed in a glass case in the living room?

31 posted on 03/04/2004 4:27:53 AM PST by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: OldFriend
You make several excellent points. I thought it was from bee poop or something in honey.
32 posted on 03/04/2004 4:28:31 AM PST by Wumpus Hunter (<a href="http://moveon.org" target="blank">Communist front group</a>)
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To: cameronsmom
Interesting. Thanks for the post.
33 posted on 03/04/2004 4:35:59 AM PST by PGalt
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
-Probably could send it to a "history of the mattress" museum....
34 posted on 03/05/2004 11:45:41 PM PST by cameronsmom
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To: PGalt
No prob.

I just hope that babies can be saved!!!
35 posted on 03/05/2004 11:46:19 PM PST by cameronsmom
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