Kerry/Clinton 04 Get ready for it!!

[nmh]

Since we are NOT into poll rule I am NOT concerned. Alot depends on the wording of the question and the SOURCE of who is compiling the results. Pollsters commonly twist results to what they personally desire.

[Mike Darancette]

If Kerry/Klinton was elected (God Forbid) the RATS would Immediately lose 2 Senate Seats to the GOP.

[Jim Noble]

The argument has to boil down to "Clinton is not constitutionally ineligible to the office of President," even in light of the 22nd amendment. I wouldn't want to be the one making the argument.

That's because you are not a leftist sociopath.

[Jim Noble]

I feel that the intention of the legislators who crafted the amendment was to limit people to a maximum of 10 years as President

Of course it was.

They didn't know the Clintons.

[Keith in Iowa]

You must have missed the part of the 12th Amendment that says if you can't be president, you can't be VP. Clinton can't be president again, so he can't be the veep.

[Jim Noble]

You must have missed the part of the 12th Amendment that says if you can't be president, you can't be VP

But the XXII Amendment does NOT say an ex-President who has served two terms cannot be President.

It says he cannot become President by being elected.

[Keith in Iowa]

You missed the 12th amendment, which says "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." - Clinton is constitutionally not eligible to be president, thus can't be Veep.

[Jim Noble]

You missed the 12th amendment, which says "But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States." - Clinton is constitutionally not eligible to be president, thus can't be Veep.

The XXII Amendment does not create a Constitutional ineligibility-it simply bars electors from electing him again.

[Keith in Iowa]

You must be one of those who thinks that as long as the constitution explicitly says no, then anything goes...

[mgstarr]

Care to make a wager on that?

I'm sure Larry Nichols shares your view however - but then he's been wrong on most things.

[terilyn]

You're so right. JFK would never stand for being upstaged at every media event, photo op, campaign swing...by the likes of Billy Jeff.

And further, I don't think that Teh-raaaaaay-za would stand for being upstaged by Hillary! being the VP nominee.

This would be the battle of the ego's the likes of which this Country has never seen.

(Though I personally think it would be a hoot watching them elbow each other off the stage). heh heh heh

[Tench_Coxe]

"No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice...."

There's the rat hole for the 'what the meaning of is, is' crowd. The succession of the Vice-President does not constitute an 'election'. Wait and see.

[terilyn]

WJC cannot be Secretary General of the UN unless one of two things happen.

Either the USA is no longer on the Security Council, or WJC resigns his US citizenship.

[Destructor]

Not bloody likely! Kerry is smarter than that (unfortunately). Kerry knows that move would make him the likely target of an "arkancide."

[Kaslin]

Interesting thought but I believe the Office of the President includes the Vice President. Not sure.

Billy Jeff is not eligble. See Underlined text

Amendment XII The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

[Jim Noble]

You must be one of those who thinks that as long as the constitution explicitly says no, then anything goes...

I am one of those who doesn't trust the Clintons.

[bootyist-monk]

First, Clintoon doesn't know how to play second banana. Period. He would never agree to see his name under Kerry's. Second, this would start another round of constitutional and legal wrangling, which would only remind Americans of why they ultimately came to despise Clintoon in the first place. Third, Kerry would never agree to this (and probably won't consider Hitlery either), because he knows they become the story, not him. Fourth, if Clintoon were to run, Bush and Rove would tear him a new one. The man who disgraced the office, and who we now know was diddling interns while Osama plotted 9/11, wants another bite at the apple? Man, Bush and Rove would have a field day. Fifth... Clintoon can't risk being seen as a loser, especially since his legacy is already in the toilet, and all signs point to a Bush landslide.

[Phsstpok]

Either the USA is no longer on the Security Council, or WJC resigns his US citizenship.

and exactly how difficult do you think it would be to engineer either of those things? I find it far more likely that a 3rd possibility would happen, that the UN will simply change the rules for picking the Secretary General. It's not like changing the Constitution. It does NOT require the approval of the Security Council, where we have a veto.

Yah, I know this is tin foil hat stuff. What scares me is that most of the 90's was proof that tin foil hat stuff wasn't out of the realm of possiblity. Oh please, let me be wrong!!!!!

[terilyn]

I'll agree. Please let you be wrong.

[leadpenny]

Thanks Kaslin. I didn't think to go back to the earlier Amendments.

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There's the rat hole for the 'what the meaning of is, is' crowd.

72 posted on 03/03/2004 8:49:31 PM EST by Tench_Coxe

Tench_Coxe, that was my initial reaction when first saw this thread. lol.