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JOHN KERRY VOTED FOR KENNEDY's ban on ALL CENTERFIRE AMMO (63-34 defeated) - Yeas and nays
Thomas ^ | 3-2-03 | Ted Kennedy

Posted on 03/02/2004 3:06:09 PM PST by Dan from Michigan

TEXT OF AMMO BILL

YEAs ---34
Akaka (D-HI) Bayh (D-IN) Biden (D-DE)
Boxer (D-CA) Byrd (D-WV) Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE) Chafee (R-RI) Clinton (D-NY)
Corzine (D-NJ) Dayton (D-MN) Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA)
Graham (D-FL) Harkin (D-IA) Hollings (D-SC)
Inouye (D-HI) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT) Mikulski (D-MD) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI) Rockefeller (D-WV) Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY) Stabenow (D-MI) Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---63
Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Allen (R-VA)
Baucus (D-MT) Bennett (R-UT) Bingaman (D-NM)
Bond (R-MO) Breaux (D-LA) Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY) Burns (R-MT) Campbell (R-CO)
Chambliss (R-GA) Cochran (R-MS) Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID) Crapo (R-ID) Daschle (D-SD)
DeWine (R-OH) Dole (R-NC) Dorgan (D-ND)
Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Fitzgerald (R-IL)
Frist (R-TN) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Jeffords (I-VT)
Kyl (R-AZ) Landrieu (D-LA) Leahy (D-VT)
Lincoln (D-AR) Lott (R-MS) Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ) McConnell (R-KY) Miller (D-GA)
Murkowski (R-AK) Nelson (D-NE) Nickles (R-OK)
Pryor (D-AR) Reid (D-NV) Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK) Sununu (R-NH) Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA)

Not Voting - 3
Domenici (R-NM) Edwards (D-NC) Johnson (D-SD)


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2a; ammo; awb; bang; banglist; centerfire; firearms; gungrabbers; gunlaws; gunvote; johnkerry; kennedy; kerry; massachusettsliberal; rollcall; tedkennedy; votingrecord
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I just called Debbie Stabenow's office as well. She needs to be offed politically in 06. Same with Lenin in 08.

And look at Rockefeller and Byrd's vote. In West Virginia? How many hunters there. And Feingold is two faced as always. Votes against the AWB, but gets the low profile ammo ban(WORSE) in. Kohl's at least consistantly bad. Bob Graham and BILL Nelson suck as usual. Dayton showed his true colors as well. The rest are the usual suspects.

This one is so hard-core, even Bingaman, Daschle, DeWine, and LEAHY voted against it.

Kerry (D-MA) - AYE

Kennedy - In a recent report, the ATF identified three, .223 and the 7.62 caliber rifles, as the ones most frequently encountered by police officers. These high-capacity rifles, the ATF wrote, pose an enhanced threat to law enforcement, in part because of their ability to expel particles at velocities that are capable of penetrating the type of soft body armor typically worn by law enforcement officers.

Another rifle caliber, the 30.30 caliber, was responsible for penetrating three officers' armor and killing them in 1993, 1996, and 2002. This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines, even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating.

Link here

Kerry - I'm going to kick your sorry ass all over Michigan.

1 posted on 03/02/2004 3:06:10 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: *bang_list
BOOM
2 posted on 03/02/2004 3:06:51 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (""....but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America"")
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To: Dan from Michigan
Kerry showed up @ the senate..

The whole senate did a flip flop on the bill and killed it
3 posted on 03/02/2004 3:07:43 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: KQQL
I know. Only 8 voted for the final bill.

YEAs ---8 Breaux (D-LA) Daschle (D-SD) Lieberman (D-CT) Lincoln (D-AR) Lugar (R-IN) McCain (R-AZ) Pryor (D-AR) Voinovich (R-OH)

4 posted on 03/02/2004 3:08:37 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (""....but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America"")
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To: Dan from Michigan
BTW - Let me clarify. ALL CENTERFIRE AMMO the AG says can penetrate body armor.

Maybe .22's would still be allowed under this........

6 posted on 03/02/2004 3:12:20 PM PST by Dan from Michigan (""....but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America"")
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To: Dan from Michigan
What a freaking boob Chafee is! Will someone get him to switch parties. He's useless.
7 posted on 03/02/2004 3:19:17 PM PST by Texas Federalist
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To: Dan from Michigan
Hmm ... they would not be stupid enough to try and confiscate that much ammo.
8 posted on 03/02/2004 3:21:32 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
This ammunition is also capable of puncturing light-armored vehicles, ballistic or armored glass, armored limousines, even a 600-pound safe with 600 pounds of safe armor plating.

Cool! Makes me love my Winchester even more. Up yours, commies!

9 posted on 03/02/2004 3:21:50 PM PST by Sir Gawain (Republicans give spineless cowards a bad name)
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To: Dan from Michigan
Maybe .22's would still be allowed under this........

Until they call .22 cartridges, "Saturday Night Special Ammunition".

10 posted on 03/02/2004 3:24:41 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: KQQL
Kerry showed up @ the senate..

The whole senate did a flip flop on the bill and killed it

Kerry took a break from campaigning on the most important campaign day of the year to fly in a rush to DC to vote:

a) For the AWB renewal;

b) For ending gun shows as we know them; and

c) For a ban on most/all centerfire rifle ammo.

Let's shout from the hilltops that Kerry hasn't cast a recorded vote for about a YEAR, because he's been so busy trying to get Bush's job...but banning guns and ammo is even more important to him than becoming President!!!

The best part is that the stupid scumbag then voted against the whole bill, even with the AWB and gunshow-killing amendments, and therefore showed up for NOTHING! His vote never even made a difference (even his and Edwards' together meant nothing on any of the votes cast).

Kerry is a big loser on this day, no matter what happens at the polls. He lost among those gun owners who harbored any hope that he was pro-gun because he awkwardly killed a pheasant dressed in brand-new hunting clothes whil using someone else's very expensive shotgun.

11 posted on 03/02/2004 3:24:49 PM PST by Ancesthntr
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To: Dan from Michigan
7.62Xwhat? What a bunch of dumb f'&*s. .30x30? (That's a 7.62, as is all .30 cal). Yah, only because every freakin' self respecting 'neck has one (his grandaddy gave it to him). I've got two, one was my Grandads.
12 posted on 03/02/2004 3:26:06 PM PST by Dead Dog
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To: Dan from Michigan
I hate to demonstrate my ignorance for all to see, but what is centerfire ammo?

I own 7 guns, including a mini-14 that would have been effected by this amendment, but what makes its ammo "centerfire"?

13 posted on 03/02/2004 3:26:45 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Ancesthntr
Let's shout from the hilltops that Kerry hasn't cast a recorded vote for about a YEAR, because he's been so busy trying to get Bush's job...but banning guns and ammo is even more important to him than becoming President!!!

Looks like an excellent RNC campaign commercial in the making. LOL! Hello Eff'n Kerry, do you remember the 1994 mid-term elections? You anti-gun-freaks got rolled. :)

14 posted on 03/02/2004 3:31:25 PM PST by demlosers (Ann Coulter: Liberals simply can't grasp the problem Lexis-Nexis poses to their incessant lying.)
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To: Dan from Michigan
.22 is rimfire in most cases.

15 posted on 03/02/2004 3:32:10 PM PST by Gringo1 (All contents of this post may be contrived,made-up,or just plain not true at all.)
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To: Ancesthntr
He served in NAM ...you can't question his voting record...don't you know that by now???
16 posted on 03/02/2004 3:33:24 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: Dan from Michigan
These senators Kohl and Feingold are disgusting. Gad, they are losers! Why do the people of Wisconsin keep electing these liberals? argh! Let's investigate Kohl's gayness.....
17 posted on 03/02/2004 3:34:49 PM PST by Indy Pendance
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To: Dog Gone
what is centerfire ammo?

Any cartridge that has a primer in the center as opposed to rimfire ammo. Yes your mini-14 would have been effected.

18 posted on 03/02/2004 3:36:15 PM PST by alaskanfan
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To: Dog Gone
The primer is centered in the base of the case. Rimfire is not.
19 posted on 03/02/2004 3:38:11 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (DEFUND PBS & NPR - THE AMERICAN PRAVDA)
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To: Dog Gone
Look at the back of your ammo..... where the firing pin strikes the ammo.... center or rim
20 posted on 03/02/2004 3:38:17 PM PST by deport (For Sale: Iraqi rifle, never fired, dropped once)
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