Aramaic Gospels online

The Peshitta website ^

[djf]

For those who are interested, there is a literal translation of the Aramaic Gospels (and Acts) online. Mattai, Marqus, Luqa, and Yukhanan.

I have not compared it yet to my 1872 hardcopy of Murdocks Translation of The Syriac Testament(1851) and am unsure if they are the same source, as there are about 6 extant versions of the Aramaic text.

You will need a frame compatible browser and Adobe Acrobat to read it, go to WWW.PESHITTA.ORG, and on the left frame, click on Interlinear to expand.

It reads right to left.

Here is a sample, The Lords prayer, Luqa 1:

"Our Father, in heaven hallowed be your name. Come your kingdom, be done your will, as in heaven, so on earth. Give us the bread of our need everyday, and forgive us our sins also, [for]we forgive all who have offended us, and not lead us into trial, but save us from the evil one."

The straightforwardness, simplicity and beauty of the Syriac versions have always amazed me.

Please use Freeper courtesy and not use robots, I don't know what their server can handle.

[djf]

Philologist bump.

[TruthConquers]

That is pretty neat-o! Thanks and Bumps!

[Kryptonite]

and not lead us into trial

Wonder if Millberg, Weiss agrees with "lead us not into temptation" instead?

[Libertina]

Thank you! This looks interesting!

[fly_so_free]

Very interesting. Thank you.

[djf]

I think the Murdock translation says "temptation". The script here looks different than the little that is shown with the Murdock text, the 1851 version has script that looks distinctly more Arabic.

[Johnny_Cipher]

Bumped and bookmarked. A great find.

[djf]

The peshita site also has the appendix from the Murdock translation, that discusses the antiquity and fidelity of the versions they found.

http://www.peshitta.com/jamesmurdock/appendix.html

[~Kim4VRWC's~]

Thanks for posting this!

[djf]

Yur welcome! One of the interesting things about the Murdock translation is that nowhere does it say the soldiers cast dice for his clothes. That seems to suggest that it is not simply a copy of the greek texts, but comes from a source that either predates the greek, or is actually original. There is disagreement about whether the dice scene is in the original, or was a later addition.

[Map Kernow]

Thanks for the post. Philologist FReepers, take up the challenge to learn Aramaic!

For Syriac, the Aramaic dialect of the Peshitta, you can't do better than Wheeler Thackston's "Introduction to Syriac," published by Ibex Books. I also recommend Theodore H. Robinson's "Paradigms and Exercises in Syriac Grammar" (Oxford Univ. Press), which has a much more traditional approach.

For Biblical Aramaic, I think a foundation in Biblical Hebrew is necessary, and there are all sorts of good primers for that: Weingreen, Kittel, Lambdin, Kelly, Seow... Since the Aramaic in the Bible is almost wholly in the Book of Daniel primarily and Ezra secondarily, something succinct and to the point like Franz Rosenthal's "Grammar of Biblical Aramaic" (Porta Linguarum Orientalium, Otto Harrassowitz, Wiesbaden), with its comprehensive grammatical treatment and extensive examples from the Aramaic of both books, should be adequate.

[djf]

Bump. For those who have gone lately.

[fly_so_free]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1087664/posts link to thread with Aramaic gospels on line

[fly_so_free]

Sorry posted backwards, Was trying to link this thread to another poster not post to it -ooops

[djf]

So, for those interested, here is the translation of the Lord's Prayer, from Murdock's 1851 translation:

Our father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name,
thy Kingdom come, thy pleasure be done, as in heaven, so on Earth,
give us daily the bread we need;
and remit to us our sins, for we also remit to all who are indebted to us;
and bring us not into trial, but deliver us from evil.