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Posted on 02/20/2004 6:02:51 PM PST by skyman

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To: jwalburg
Conservative mayors should parody this liberal stupidity by "marrying" Caligula and his neutered slave.

We could appoint Caligula's horse Consul of the California Senate.

41 posted on 02/20/2004 7:00:54 PM PST by Reactionary
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To: skyman
My thoughts:

Everyone has been calling them illegal gay marriages, when in fact all they are are marriage ceremonies. They don't mean a thing. Wait until they file as married with the IRS.

The real issue, if they want to pursue it, is to pass a law that makes men and women the same and subject to the same laws. Essentially there would be no such thing as sex.

If they want to do it legally now, all they have to do is have a gay man marry a lesbian. No Problem.

The irony is that if they passed a law legalizing same sex marriages, then they would have to create a new catagory for married men & women, because that is the structure of society and society must protect its continuation, as it has for centuries. All the laws that were passed in the past by legislatures would likely have been different if they thought they would apply to gay/lesbian couples.
42 posted on 02/20/2004 7:16:03 PM PST by NJJ
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To: longtermmemmory
Ahnold has exposed himself as wimp and weakling.

I think this has been a surprise to him and he's not sure what to do. He has to remember he is the Governor of California for all the problems, not just financial.

43 posted on 02/20/2004 7:25:42 PM PST by RightWingMama
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To: skyman
The gay marriage issue touches on the governator's social liberal side so that's all he could muster. We should be grateful for small favors?
44 posted on 02/20/2004 7:40:15 PM PST by luvbach1 (In the know on the border)
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To: HitmanNY
Naomi's Nipple...Now that is a great name for a race horse. Gotta be a mare though.
45 posted on 02/20/2004 7:57:04 PM PST by tcuoohjohn (Follow The Money)
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To: Lady Eileen
I'm saying in general the Talking Points are good essays...
46 posted on 02/21/2004 5:41:26 AM PST by Jack Wilson
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To: skyman
In fact it could be one of the issues that bring people out to vote for him if he'll take a strong stand.

I think this issue will.

47 posted on 02/21/2004 6:50:26 AM PST by rintense
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To: MJY1288
Tell tham if they ignore the Defense of Marriage Act, they will no longer recieve federal funds for law enforcement and Highway funds

Wouldn't make much of a difference here in Michigan.

48 posted on 02/21/2004 6:52:10 AM PST by rintense
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To: Tanniker Smith
I agree that Arnold has wasted too much time.
49 posted on 02/21/2004 6:52:55 AM PST by rintense
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To: skyman
"the first to omit ......."???
50 posted on 02/21/2004 12:36:13 PM PST by EggsAckley ({....YES... I AM THE HATED......troll patrol.....(on duty).....})
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To: belmont_mark
Ogden, Utah is the home town of Browning Arms Co. Is that where you are going? I suggest you reconsider. I never liked Ogden for several good reasons and none have anything to do with religion.
51 posted on 02/21/2004 1:10:21 PM PST by Paulus Invictus (4)
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To: EggsAckley
I say let this fester. The Dems have already made a very big point for W on the judicial quality not only at the federal level but at the state level also. Liberal activist judges will be liberal activist judges whether it is county, state or federal level. To have four judges shoot down any idea that this is a blatant violation of established law where the cart has been put before the horse (issue then sue) clearly shows what part of the political spectrum they are actively working for.

President Bush has no need to jump in - this is a state issue as of now but clearly after May when Mass starts issuing gay marriage licenses the federal route towards a Constitutional Amendement will pick up steam. There are already 38 states that have ammended their constitutions to mandate that marriage is between a man and a woman - the very amount of states needed. And in Congress, many Dems are going to be cornered, slaves to opinion polls as they are.

As to Governor Arnold, he knows very well that as of now, to arrest Newsom would create a martyr. Once this is resolved, one way or another, the precedent for Arnold and future Governor's will be set - blatantly ignore a ballot initiative passed by the people who give consent to the those that govern and you WILL be arrested.

Come November, I think you are going to find a lot of State reps out of a job. Oh, and by the way, this issue and home security (we need bumper stickers like "OSAMA FOR KERRY") will ensure a huge electoral sweep come November. The Dems have managed to hang themselves.

One last point: we need to take the pro-gay-marriage proponents rhetoric and start employing it to the affirmative-action battle, particuarly. Whereas the gay activist can only point to mostly percieved on-the-street discrimination coupled with their claims of institutionalized discrimination, the clear bias at both primary and higher-education institutions towards anyone that doesn't support the liberal agenda can be clearly proved due to the enormous amount of evidence reported by students over the years, not to mention guest speaker choices, text books, course choices, periodical subscriptions, speech codes, editorials, published faculty statements etc.

OK - that's enough.
52 posted on 02/21/2004 1:37:22 PM PST by torchthemummy (Great Liars Need To Have Great Memories)
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To: Paulus Invictus
Getting warmer... But actually, the place I was hinting at is in Arizona! ;)

53 posted on 02/23/2004 12:26:33 PM PST by GOP_1900AD (Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
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