[Happy2BMe]

hmmm... start with Saddam's and work your way out.

[Happy2BMe]

DANNY JOHNSTON/AP

U.S. President George W. Bush is applauded by the army and National Guard troops during a speech at Fort Polk, La., yesterday in which he defended the U.S. war in Iraq. Fort Polk is home to more than 6,300 troops who are in Iraq.

[jwalsh07]

Idiots all over Washington, right, left and center.

How the hell are our intellignece agencies supposed to know more than Saddam Hussein about Iraqs WMD programs.

Richard Perle should STFU and somebody, anybody, should find out what the hell happened to the anthrax, vx and mustard gas.

[Fledermaus]

Perle says of the CIA and DIA: "I think, of course, heads should roll," he said. "When you discover that you have an organization that doesn't get it right time after time, you change the organization, including the people.

Wow! Someone make this man Pope for his pure genius! But he obviously doesn't understand he's talking about government.

When government gets it right, you raise their budgets and promote the idiots! Every single federal government agency, including a large part of the military, can be characterized in the same manner.

And if you point blame at the CIA and ignore the even more incredible crap coming out of the State Dept. you are looking for scapegoats.

Also, does anyone really think in an election year that Bush would fire Tenet? With the liberal, so-called mainstream media and the 40% of the population that are just plain stupid (Democrats, liberals, commies, most libertarians) they'll declare Bush's firing as PROOF he's covering up his lies about WMD's, blah, blah, blah.

And the sheepol zombies will buy it faster than a DVD of the Vagina Monologues.

[NewRomeTacitus]

Initial reports claimed 40 vast sites to house munitions. It was also said that Saddam ordered the nasty stuff to be randomly interspersed, without specific labeling, among the standard types for maximum terror effect (and preventing his own troops from withholding their use. Saddam trusted no one.)

Our guys are still going through the first few of these stockpiles. Herr Blix and his ilk were expecting what, big neon signs pointing to these items like something out of a Warner Bros. cartoon?

[mercy]

It is so much worse than you know ... unless you have read Robert Baer's books that is. It isn't really the fault of the CIA although anyone in management within that org should hang their head in shame. The CIA was purposely gutted starting with Reagan. Bush Sr was a major culprit. Clinton finished the job. The idea was do NOTHING that might damage the House of Saud. Just follow the money.

The fact that we lost all intelligence gathering ability throughout Central Asia was just the dominoe affect.

[Cold Heat]

Mr. Perle:

Perhaps it is your head that should do the rolling? HMMMMMMMMMM???????

[jeremiah]

The very FIRST thing that should have happened in the wake of 9/11, was the sacking of those in charge of intelligence operations. As soon as the dust and smoke cleared, it became obvious that this could have been prevented, with a little common sense applied to airline security. PC ran amok, and still does.

[MEGoody]

If there were serious errors in U.S. intelligence regarding Iraq, then there are a number of other countries throughout the world with the same problem.

And Saddam endured 12 years of UN sanctions just for 'fun.'

[ZULU]

Perle is an idiot.

Gathering intelligence information in a country like Saddamite Iraq is NOT an empirical science. Further, our ability to secure on the ground information on this subject was seriously compromised by liberals in Congress who gutted the ability of the CIA to secure this type of information by nonsensical rules and reductions in funding.

All available information led the Administration and the intelligence services which served it to conclude that Saddam did indeed have WMD and as far as I or any other intelligent observer can conclude, the jury is still out on the issue of whether or not they were spirited away or hidden somewher in Iraq. Nor were they alone in this opinion. It was also held by other western powers, Saddam's neighbors, and people in his administration.

As for blaming the fall of the Shah on the CIA, this guy has acute craniorectumitis. Put the blame where it REALLY belongs - on the imbicile in the White House at the time - Jimmy Carter.

[alpowolf]

Yeah, holding the decision makers responsible is just too obvious I suppose.

I wonder why it never occurs to anyone to ask: if Saddam had all these weapons for 10+ years, and the intent to use them on the U.S., just what he was waiting for?