Roger Simon of U.S. News: "Nobody Died When Bill Clinton Lied"

MRC ^ | 11:20am EST, Monday February 16, 2004 | BrentBaker

[fight_truth_decay]

On Sunday's Face the Nation, at the start of a segment on President Bush's National Guard duty, CBS's Bob Schieffer said he was "surprised, frankly," that the Guard story "has gone on as long as it has." As if he had no control over the subject matters addressed on his own show.

But neither Schieffer, nor his guests on the topic, Time's Karen Tumulty and Boston Globe reporter Walter Robinson, went so far as Meet the Press panelist Roger Simon of U.S. News who remarked that, as opposed to Bush taking the nation to war, "nobody died when Bill Clinton lied."

Simon was responding to host Tim Russert who had pointed out how the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll found Bush is seen as "honest and trustworthy" by just 52 percent and on weapons of mass destruction, asked "Did the President exaggerate the evidence?", 54 percent responded yes, 42 percent no. Russert asked: "How much of an issue is this credibility, as Time magazine called 'a potential gap,' going to play in the 2004 race?"

Simon replied: "I think it's going to be huge. We've had Presidents who have lied to the American people. Our last President lied on a number of occasions to the American people, but nobody died when Bill Clinton lied. If, as these polls reflect, a majority of the American people think the President either lied or exaggerated about the weapons of mass destruction and sent young men and women off to war to fight and to die based on those lies and exaggerations, they're likely to be a little unforgiving, I think, in November."

Maybe, but the Washington Post/ABC News poll didn't show that. Even of those who believed Bush "exaggerated" the evidence, only a minority, 39 percent, think he lied. And when asked, "Regardless of whether or not it exaggerated the evidence, do you think the George W. Bush administration honestly believed that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, or not?," 68 percent said "honestly believed" compared to just 27 percent who answered "did not honestly believe."

For the Washington Post's rundown of this poll released on Thursday: http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac3/ContentServer?pagename=polls&nex tstep=chooseQuestion&interactive=n&searchPollId=2004041&pollType=M aryland&questCategoryType=n&newsearch=&questCategory=&keyword=&pol lDateRange=&startingRow=1

[fight_truth_decay]

"The dangers of acting," Clinton said, "are far outweighed by the dangers of not acting." -TIME magazine 3/99

[The G Man]

Unless you want to count those poor shleps working in the aspirin factory.

[TADSLOS]

Our last President lied on a number of occasions to the American people, but nobody died when Bill Clinton lied

Someone should drop the "list" in his lap.

[dts32041]

or on the Cole, or kobar towers, Waco, etc etc.

[ghost of nixon]

"nobody died when Bill Clinton lied."

what about the people on the receiving end of those cruise missle strikes timed to delay the Monica vote? What about all the people killed because Clinton was too distracted to properly respond to the 1st Trade Tower, Riyahd barracks, Cole, and African Embassy bombings?

[Paul C. Jesup]

Roger Simon of U.S. News: "Nobody Died When Bill Clinton Lied"

Someone ping the Clinton Death List

[mewzilla]

Backhoe, if you get a chance could you provide one of your Toon legacy posts?

[Blood of Tyrants]

And the people of Kosovo and Iraq who died so that news of his infidelity and lying wouldn't be front page news.

[spiffy]

No, people died when they were no longer willing to lie.

[Diogenesis]

“If she had lived, Mary Jo Kopechne would be 62 years old.
Through his tireless work as a legislator,
Edward Kennedy would have brought comfort to her in her old age.”

– Charles Pierce, January 5, Boston Globe

[Morgan in Denver]

Plus, I guess, Clinton's inaction had nothing to do with 9-11?

[CSM]

But a court decision (verdict) was directly affected.

[mewzilla]

Richard Miniter's book Losing Bin Laden addresses what Toon did and didn't do. It's obvious Simon hasn't read it.

[Wombat101]

I guess we all forgot Waco already....

[EggsAckley]

Wait a minute. Didn't they say he WASN'T lying back then? NOW they admit he WAS lying...................

[Wil H]

Roger Simon of U.S. News: "Nobody Died When Bill Clinton Lied"

OH YES THEY DID !

The Caretaker at the Sudanese Aspirin Factory for certain

Add to that Vince... Foster, Gerry Parks, and a long list of others

[upchuck]

It didn't die, but our national dignity and heritage was done irreparable damage when Clinton lied.

[Snardius]

Mary Jo Kopechne

She gave her life so the country would not have to endure another Kennedy presidency.

[Area51]

Seems to me I remember a train full of civilian passangers getting blown to bits in Kosovo by a American Bomber, and a few aid stations and hospitals also being bombed.

And then there was that little mess in Mogadishu where Bubba Clinton sent in a attack force to attempt a capture of Addid without the proper air support that cost a few Rangers their lives, but hey don't let the facts get in the way for the LIARS of the Left.

[OpusatFR]

""nobody died when Bill Clinton lied."

World Trade Center attack I

Khobar Towers

USS Cole

Kenyan Embassy

and of course, the mother of all lies which propelled us into the Kosovo debacle which BTW is a complete mess to this day.

Clinton was too caught up in his poll numbers and lies to take action when action should have been taken.

[Diogenesis]

More Clinton deaths

[big bad easter bunny]

"What is happening in Rwanda is not genocide!"

[Diogenesis]

1992 Bombing in Israeli Embassy in Argentina, March 17,1992
1993 Attempted Assassination of Pres. Bush Sr., April 14,1993
1993 First World Trade Center bombing, February 26th, 7 Killed, Hundreds injured, Billions
1994 Air France Hijacking, Dec 24,1994
1995 Attack on US Diplomats in Pakistan, Mar 8,1995
1995 Saudi Military Installation Attack, Nov 13, 1995
1995 Kashmiri Hostage taking, July 4,1995
1996 Khobar Towers attack
1996 Sudanese Missionarys Kidnapping, Aug 17,1996
1996 Paris Subway Explosion, Dec 3,1996
1997 Israeli Shopping Mall Bombing, Sept 4, 1997
1997 Yemeni Kidnappings, Oct 30,1997
1998 Somali Hostage taking crisis, April 15,1998
1998 U.S. Embassy Bombing in Peru, Jan 15, 1998
1998 U.S. Kenya Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1998 U.S. Tanzania Embassy blown up, 100's murdered
1999 Plot to blow up Space Needle (thwarted)
2000 USS Cole attacked, many U.S. Navy sailors murdered
2000-2003 Intifada against Israel - 100's dead and injured
2000 Manila Bombing, Dec 30,2000

[Tribune7]

"nobody died when Bill Clinton lied."

How about those 3,000 people who died on Sept. 11, 2001? Most of the planning/immigration/fundraising was done on Slick's watch.

[John Lenin]

No one died when Blozo lied ? Not really.

JUNE 1999

KILLER BLOOD: While the American media continues to shut its eyes to the 1980s flow of deadly blood from Clinton's Arkansas prisons to Canadian patients, the story remains big up north. Latest development: Liberal leadership contender Paul Martin was on the board of a corporation involved in the distribution of tainted blood.

[elbucko]

On Sunday's Face the Nation,...CBS's Bob Schieffer said he was "surprised, frankly," that the Guard story "has gone on as long as it has." As if he had no control over the subject matters addressed on his own show.

I watched FtN on Sunday and Bob Schieffer added, in this commentary, that with all the attention focused on Bush's Guard record, "there must be something there".

Bob Schieffer never gave a "Fair and Balanced" report or comment in his life. His only claim to fame is that he gave Lee Harvey Oswald's mother a ride into Dallas in November, 1963.

[OpusatFR]

Amen.

The worst thing is that our media is a bonafide arm of the DNC. They do the country a huge disservice.

[carlo3b]

Which lie his he talking about.. The ROTC lie that let a poor kid from Arkansas go to war to protect his candy a$$.

Or is he talking about the Aspirin factory bombing to knock Monica off the news lie? That lie killed 24 blacks in Africa.

Perhaps he was talking about the lie that they tried to get Osama Bin Laden, but let him run and hide 3 times? That lie cost at least 3011 Americans their lives on 9/11.. anyone have any lies to add..Hmmmm ?

[Hon]

New Figures on Civilian Deaths in Kosovo War

(Washington, February 7, 2000)—About five hundred civilians died in ninety separate incidents as a result of NATO bombing in Yugoslavia last year, Human Rights Watch said in a new report released today.

http://www.hrw.org/press/2000/02/nato207.htm

[Moby Grape]

Maybe the poor sap died that thad to take Clinton's place when Clinton refused to go.

[Oberon]

...nobody died when Bill Clinton lied.

He must have forgotten about Jim McDougal.

[Sally]

I recently heard a 50-60 minute speech (diatribe) given by Joseph Wilson (Valerie Plame's French man-maid). Among his moonbat exclamations was a comment eerily similar to Roger Simon's. It went something like this, punctuated by laughter: 'I yearn for the days when a president only lied about sex!' Meaning of course, that GWB's lies about Iraq/war/WMD are devastating, while the sex lies of BC were charming and never hurt anyone. Some of the other stuff he says is so bizarre, you wouldn't believe me if I told you.

You can find the MP3 of this speech (given last September I believe) over at LittleGreenFootballs. I recommend half a bottle of wine before you start, and wear a bib.

GO HERE FIRST
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=9863_Moonbat_Joins_Kerry

THEN SCROLL DOWN TO #36 where a gentleman has provided a direct link to a working link/MP3. Takes a minute or two to load up.

[Toespi]

Waco was forgotten the minute it happened because the media were accessories in those deaths. If someone has pictures of every one of those victims at Waco, they should be immediately e-mailed to Roger Simon. For good measure, we could add pictures of Mogadishu, you know the ones where our men were hog-tied and dragged through the streets. My God, these elitists have selective memory. I don't remember a bunch of liberals jumping up and down about Somalia.

[Scenic Sounds]

Except for fundraising, the less the Clinton name comes up this year, the better!! Bush is not running against Clinton!!!

[Just mythoughts]

Hillary still writing their scripts.

Mr. Wilson who sent you to gather "INTEL" in Niger? The NYTimes? Hillary? or maybe bjclinton? how about JFKerry?

[tomball]

Let's not forget the Delta Force being sent in to wipe out a religious cult in Waco. Or the FBI snipers hit kill at Ruby Ridge. Oh, and the Oklahoma government building that was blown up - at a time when muslim extremists were claiming responsibility, the Clinton administration fixates on a couple of US conspirators without further investigations. (as only 2 people could have masterminded this one.) How about the Bosnia bombing of the Chinese Embassy? There is a whole lot more than this. Clinton and death were synonomous. September 11, 2001 were the direct results of his tenure in office.

[American in Israel]

"nobody died when Bill Clinton lied."

But Millions will when the Mark 86 micro nuke plans leaked to China and released to Pakistan and NKorea and then put into Osama's hands reach New York City and other major cities around the world. But by then this city dweller will be dust, and nobody will care, nobody alive that is...

But Clintoon was not known for his "circle of death" for nothing. A whole lot of people have died so Clintoon will not have to lie.

[Kaslin]

Well the Left-wingers claim 9/11 is the president's fault since it happened on his watch, completely igoring the fact that the attack had been in planing for over five years and that President Bush had only been in office seven month and 18 days when the attack happened

[LandofLincoln]

Nobody died when Clinton lied?

HMMM, Who was ...

Vince Foster?

Mary Mahoney?

Jerry Parks?

Ron Brown?

James MacDougal?

Kathy Ferguson?

Kevin Ives?

Don Henry?

seven former body guards.

And last but not least Buddy his dog.

[buffyt]

Soldiers died directly as a result of John Kerry, Bill Clinton, Jane Fonda, et al protesting against our US military in VN DURING the war~!

[mystery-ak]

Yeah, nobody died....just several thousand US citizens.

[MEG33]

Simon was so flagrantly biased.

[buffyt]

EXCELLENT POINT, KASLIN!

[Toespi]

Has anyone noticed the "Editor's Letter" section of Vanity Fair this month? Instead of letters, Vanity Fair chose to list the names, ages and hometowns of 502 American soldiers who have died in Iraq. It is titled, "SYMPHONY for the DEAD." It reads, " The invasion of Iraq was launched a year ago this March. On these pages are the names, ages and hometowns of the 502 American men and women in uniform who, as of January 21, 2004, had lost their lives in the war and it's bloody aftermath. This list of the war dead has been compiled with the help of U.S. military sources and Army Times." I wrote them and suggested that to trully honor these heros, they should list all of the Israels slaughtered by suicide bombers, all of the Iraqi people murdered by Hussein's tyranny, the numerous victims of the Taliban and then I suggested that if they had any pages left to fill, they could get a list of the 3200+ murdered on our own shores on September 11th, 2004.

[John Lenin]

1989

The Committee of Ten Thousand -- named for the estimated 10,000 Americans infected with HIV by the blood industry -- is formed. Writing in POZ seven years later, COTT's president Corey Dubin says, "For years the manufacturers of blood products and the regulators at the FDA persuaded the hemophilia community as well as the general public that their infections were a 'tragic yet unavoidable mistake.' We now know that this is absolutely not the case and that doing business as usual from 1982 to 1985 consigned thousands of people with hemophilia to the ravages of AIDS. ~~~ Internal drug company memos demonstrate that officials understood the impact that blood tainted by this pathogen could have on people with hemophilia as early as mid-1982, but they failed to warn either our doctors or us. The industry was also targeting for plasma collection groups with a high incidence of hepatitis B -- gay men and prisoners -- that the CDC had by then identified as likely to have AIDS."

MAY 1993

Two separate tainted blood probes -- one by a California investigator and another by the Canadian government -- lead to the door of the Arkansas governor's office, now occupied by Jim Guy Tucker. Both are informed that all the governor's papers were removed when he left office and that they should contact the White House legal counsel's office. What happens next is not known but presumably they make contact with Vince Foster, the man in the legal counsel's office who knew Arkansas and who had been involved in the prison system and who may, at one point, have represented HMA.

[sweetliberty]

"nobody died when Bill Clinton lied"

Oh really?

Clinton Body Count (and there has been at least 1 more recenly)

[Grit]

That cannot be a real quote!?!?

[sweetliberty]

[Criminal Number 18F]

Roger Simon of U.S. News: "Nobody Died When Bill Clinton Lied"

Well. these people died when Bill Clinton fiddled... or was that "diddled?" Because he was not serious about his duties. Because he didn't think enemies were worth pursuing, unless it might lead to a bump in the polls or forestall one of the endless investigations of his Administration's pervasive small-time criminality. Because he considered dollars spent on continental defence to be dollars wasted.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[Steven W.]

Funny, you'd think these PETA crazed liberals would

REMEMBER BULLSEYE

For those who don't recall, Bullseye was the name of Kathleen Willey's cat who was killed by the thugs hired by Clinton's "detectives" to threaten and intimidate witnesses.