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Give police Star Trek-style weapons, says senior British officer
AFP/Yahoo ^ | Fri Feb 13, 7:33 PM ET

Posted on 02/14/2004 10:27:18 AM PST by martin_fierro

Give police Star Trek-style weapons, says senior British officer

Fri Feb 13, 7:33 PM ET

LONDON (AFP) - A British police chief has revealed the type of weapon he would most like to see officers carry in the future, it was reported Saturday -- a disabling "phaser gun" of the sort used in television show "Star Trek".

The gun -- which Deputy Chief Constable Ian Arundale admitted might not be developed for many years -- would be able to turn "someone's brain off", he was quoted as saying by The Guardian.

Arundale, who is head of the Association of Chief Police Officers' use of firearms units, said there was a need for a "less lethal" alternative to conventional guns, which British police rarely carry.

"What we would like in the future is a Star Trek-style phaser that, perfectly safely, temporarily switches someone's brain off so that officers move in," Arundale was quoted as saying.

"We know we are not going to get that, probably not in my lifetime anyway, but we will look at anything that takes us in that direction."

According to the official Internet site for Star Trek, a hugely influential US science fiction series first broadcast in 1966, the phaser was a "Starfleet handheld energy weapon in use since circa 2266".

"The Phaser Type-1 was commonly used when a show of force was not appropriate, such as in first contact and other off-ship missions involving diplomacy," it explains.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: bang; bobbies; boobies; borg; guns; ptahk
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Oh.

I thought he meant:


1 posted on 02/14/2004 10:27:20 AM PST by martin_fierro
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To: martin_fierro
According to the official Internet site for Star Trek

Wow. There really is an official internet site. Who knew? (Yes, it's startrek.com).

2 posted on 02/14/2004 10:31:00 AM PST by prion
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To: martin_fierro
The gun would be able to turn "someone's brain off", he was quoted..

Sounds like this guy tried to commit suicide with it...

3 posted on 02/14/2004 10:31:32 AM PST by jscd3
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To: martin_fierro
Forget that sissy Star Trek stuff. Give the officers lightsabers!
4 posted on 02/14/2004 10:32:24 AM PST by LanPB01
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To: martin_fierro
My 1911 will turn your brain off easily enough.

Now restarting it............that's another propositioon.
5 posted on 02/14/2004 10:35:00 AM PST by tet68
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To: martin_fierro
. . . would be able to turn "someone's brain off" . . .

Wouldn't that turn them into a liberal?

6 posted on 02/14/2004 10:39:35 AM PST by LibWhacker
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To: martin_fierro
The gun -- which Deputy Chief Constable Ian Arundale admitted might not be developed for many years -- would be able to turn "someone's brain off", he was quoted as saying by The Guardian.

What's wrong with the standard issue, 9mm brain switch?

(Though your Bat'leth idea would certainly work too!)

7 posted on 02/14/2004 10:42:42 AM PST by Redcloak (This tagline is for external use only. Discontinue if a rash develops. Induce vomiting if swallowed.)
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To: martin_fierro
. . . would be able to turn "someone's brain off" . . .

Read Tristam Shandy to them...

8 posted on 02/14/2004 10:45:08 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Just once I'd like to get by on my looks.)
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To: martin_fierro
The gun -- which Deputy Chief Constable Ian Arundale admitted might not be developed for many years -- would be able to turn "someone's brain off", he was quoted as saying by The Guardian.

How about Mind Control helmets, or magic swords, or electric lassos, those time machine wrist watches would come in handy too!

9 posted on 02/14/2004 10:45:26 AM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: martin_fierro
Awesome give me 2 of them and a ham and cheese sandwich to go thank you.
10 posted on 02/14/2004 10:45:48 AM PST by Afro_conservative
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To: LibWhacker
. . . would be able to turn "someone's brain off" . . .

Wouldn't that turn them into a liberal?

ROTFLMAO!!!! Quote of the day!!!!
11 posted on 02/14/2004 10:47:23 AM PST by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: martin_fierro
would be able to turn "someone's brain off",

Aren't they called women? :)

12 posted on 02/14/2004 10:48:20 AM PST by lepton
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To: martin_fierro
He's talking about the phaser that has two settings: stun and disintegrate. You don't have to fill out a lot of paperwork when all you leave is a scorch mark in the pavement.
13 posted on 02/14/2004 10:48:21 AM PST by KarlInOhio (The idea of five Supreme Court justices appointed by President Kerry chills me to the bone.)
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To: martin_fierro
would be able to turn "someone's brain off",

Aren't they called "women"? :)

14 posted on 02/14/2004 10:48:32 AM PST by lepton
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To: martin_fierro
Star Treck stuff is for wussies. You wanna talk sci-fi weapon? THIS is a sci-fi weapon!:

Stargate is so cool. :)

15 posted on 02/14/2004 10:52:35 AM PST by 4mycountry (If new people are newbies.... does that make me an oldbie?)
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To: martin_fierro

16 posted on 02/14/2004 10:52:49 AM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: martin_fierro
Where's the "Beam me up"?

The must be a "Beam me up"!
17 posted on 02/14/2004 10:59:35 AM PST by LRS
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To: LRS
Still in the design stage.
18 posted on 02/14/2004 11:02:16 AM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: martin_fierro
" ...would be able to turn "someone's brain off""

How's this thing going to be effective? There aren't that many brits with their brains on.

19 posted on 02/14/2004 11:02:42 AM PST by spunkets
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Read Tristam Shandy to them...

Yunz is waaaay too literate for me.

20 posted on 02/14/2004 11:05:26 AM PST by martin_fierro (Chat is my milieu)
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To: martin_fierro
I believe that anything that would deliver sufficient shock to cause a general paralysis would also be likely to paralyze the respiratory system and heart. In other words, it would have a high risk of killing.

It is the same question raised with the use of firearms for self-defense. You do not shoot to wound. You do not shoot to kill. You do not shoot them just a little bit. You shoot them to stop them. Of course, there is a significant risk of killing your assailant.
21 posted on 02/14/2004 11:06:39 AM PST by punster
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To: martin_fierro
Phasers at the ready and set on "knock for a loop!"
22 posted on 02/14/2004 11:12:36 AM PST by luvbach1 (In the know on the border)
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To: punster
"Stunguns" do almost the same thing without killing. Just need something longer lasting and which can hit from a distance.
23 posted on 02/14/2004 11:14:40 AM PST by luvbach1 (In the know on the border)
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To: luvbach1; punster
Have you seen the Taser (www.taser.com)? The waveform of the delivered charge and 50,000 peak voltage can drop just about anyone onto the ground helplessly.

Now if they can do it wirelessly...

24 posted on 02/14/2004 11:23:13 AM PST by TheGeezer (If only I had skin as thick as Ann Coulter, and but half her intelligence...)
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To: TheGeezer
It can drop just about anyone onto the ground helplessly (according to their literature, and 9 out of 10 times is pretty good, just that tenth guy is such a mean SofaB).

DK
25 posted on 02/14/2004 11:29:49 AM PST by Dark Knight
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To: martin_fierro
...would be able to turn "someone's brain off", he was quoted as saying...

Gawd, we need a twenty-four hour moratorium on comments just so we can grok this idiot in fullness....

26 posted on 02/14/2004 11:38:06 AM PST by Grut
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To: martin_fierro
"What we would like in the future is a Star Trek-style phaser that, perfectly safely, temporarily switches someone's brain off..."

"...long enough for them to vote Labour."

27 posted on 02/14/2004 11:42:32 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: Howlin; Ed_NYC; MonroeDNA; widgysoft; Springman; Timesink; dubyaismypresident; Grani; coug97; ...
Now THAT's a knife...

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

28 posted on 02/14/2004 12:19:59 PM PST by mhking (Machines don't have the right to remain silent.)
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To: luvbach1
""Stunguns" do almost the same thing without killing. Just need something longer lasting and which can hit from a distance."

I have my doubts about stunguns being perfectly safe. There is a question about individuals with heart trouble and those with pacemakers. The electrical shock could induce a cardiac arrhythmia.

A lot of people have been killed in fist fights, which some people have advocated, saying fist fights would not result in fatalities. The reason, boxers are required to use gloves, is to keep them from killing each other.
29 posted on 02/14/2004 12:21:42 PM PST by punster
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To: tet68
....>>My 1911 will turn your brain off easily enough.

Now restarting it............that's another propositioon.<<<

yes... the 1911, a great choice for self defense sidearm
30 posted on 02/14/2004 12:22:56 PM PST by tj005
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To: TheGeezer
Again, I have my doubts about the effectiveness of tasers. What if the assailant is wearing a heavy leather jacket. The darts will not penetrate, and the assailant will remain a threat.

Any self-defense weapon must be totally reliable. The last concern is the safety of an assailant. That is the unpleasant truth.
31 posted on 02/14/2004 12:25:03 PM PST by punster
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To: martin_fierro
The Gurkhas have something that will take your brain off.

Oh, he said "turn your brain off?"

Never mind.
32 posted on 02/14/2004 12:27:20 PM PST by SBprone
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To: tet68
you beat me to it.
33 posted on 02/14/2004 12:30:55 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: lepton; Xenalyte; nopardons; MEG33; tiamat; summer; prairiebreeze
would be able to turn "someone's brain off"

Aren't they called "women"? :)

ticktockticktockticktock...

34 posted on 02/14/2004 12:33:42 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: King Prout
kiss,kiss...;)
35 posted on 02/14/2004 12:37:23 PM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04...for the sake of our nation)
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To: 4mycountry
Yeah, SG-1 *is* cool, but give me a photon grenade launcher every time. :-)


36 posted on 02/14/2004 12:38:43 PM PST by Cloud William
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To: 4mycountry
1 shot stuns, 2 shots kills
37 posted on 02/14/2004 12:40:45 PM PST by mikrofon
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To: punster
You may be right, but I've seen the Taser demonstrated, and it pierced pretty thick leather jackets in the demo. Additonally, the person using the Taser is supposed to follow an escalation of force.

Regards.

38 posted on 02/14/2004 12:42:00 PM PST by TheGeezer (If only I had skin as thick as Ann Coulter, and but half her intelligence...)
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To: lepton
would be able to turn "someone's brain off",

You are gonna get iiiiiit! I hereby leave a 75-Meter Zone of Death around you, which no Man should enter!

39 posted on 02/14/2004 12:44:14 PM PST by freedumb2003 (Everyone is stupid! That is why they do all those stupid things! -- H. Simpson.)
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To: martin_fierro
<<< would be able to turn "someone's brain off" >>>

What the world needs is a device that can turn someone's brain on!
40 posted on 02/14/2004 1:01:00 PM PST by Khan Noonian Singh (Be careful you don't drop your phaser when you need it!)
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To: martin_fierro; Xenalyte
This is less than lethal ......... if I want it to be.




41 posted on 02/14/2004 1:03:18 PM PST by Eaker ("Do I feel your pain?? Hell, I caused your pain!!!!" - Tom Eaker, 2004)
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To: MEG33
trying to switch my brain off?
42 posted on 02/14/2004 1:21:29 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: Eaker
too many things to get stuck on cloth, meat, ribs...
43 posted on 02/14/2004 1:23:15 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: punster
The electrical shock could induce a cardiac arrhythmia.

True enough. But not in most people. Nothing that would be effective can be perfectly safe.

44 posted on 02/14/2004 1:26:26 PM PST by luvbach1 (In the know on the border)
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To: King Prout
Just wanted to see if you were paying attention!
45 posted on 02/14/2004 1:27:44 PM PST by MEG33 (BUSH/CHENEY '04...for the sake of our nation)
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To: MEG33
I wasn't... until the sound of smacking lips caught my eye.

hey, it WAS a "sound effect" and it IS a text-based communications medium, after all

46 posted on 02/14/2004 1:30:42 PM PST by King Prout (I am coming to think that the tree of liberty is presently dying of thirst.)
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To: martin_fierro
...would be able to turn "someone's brain off"...

It's now known as the HK USP69 "Liberal."

47 posted on 02/14/2004 4:27:39 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Oh boy, I can't wait to eat that monkey!"--Abe Simpson)
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To: Cloud William
That was very cool.

I also liked the improvised weapon he made out of 'home made' gunpowder and using diamonds for buckshot.

48 posted on 02/14/2004 4:33:33 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: martin_fierro
Just teach them to do the Vulcan pinch...


49 posted on 02/14/2004 4:34:46 PM PST by socal_parrot (FR Mods, be my Valentine!)
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To: LanPB01

50 posted on 02/14/2004 4:55:57 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Spirit & Opportunity~The race is ON! Which will find the first Martian trout stream.)
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