All-American Boy Now a Terror Suspect

Fox News ^ | 2-13-04 | Bret Baier, Mike Emanuel, Ian McCaleb, Liza Porteus and The Associated Press

[Jotmo]

FORT LEWIS, Wash. — People in Spc. Ryan G. Anderson's (search) hometown of Everett, Wash., are having a hard time coming to grips with the fact that the National Guardsman has been accused of aiding anti-American terrorists.

Anderson, 26, a convert to Islam, is being charged with aiding the enemy after U.S. officials discovered he allegedly tried to give military data to Usama bin Laden's Al Qaeda terror network. He was arrested Thursday.

[Jotmo]

Notice the interested in guns and wanted to join the Milita angle employed by the reporters to relay drive home the utter evilness of this guy.

In a 1999 letter to the Herald, he wrote: "Should any law be passed which allows anyone to come and, without due cause, take my arms, I and every other lawfully armed American citizen has a right to resist that degradation with every means possible."

One of those 2nd amendment wackos!!! That settles it for me...to the gas chamber with him!!!

An Army spokesman said Thursday the military is committed to recruiting Muslims

WTF!!!!

[Uncle Miltie]

In my former Seattle neighborhood, pro-Saddam bumper stickers outnumbered American flags. I kid you not.

[anniegetyourgun]

Seems this kid was looking to join a gang and gain acceptance. Lookin' for love in all the wrong places....

[Joe 6-pack]

"Lookin' for love in all the wrong places...."

Leavenworth will not be much of an improvement...

[GOPyouth]

Looks like he may gain the death penalty, now.

[Servant of the 9]

What kind of loser converts to Islam.
I don't know, maybe the same kind of loser who has a college degree and still can't get a comission in the Guard..

So9

[buffyt]

FRY HIM!

[ovrtaxt]

Anderson is the second Muslim soldier with Fort Lewis connections to be accused of wrongdoing related to the war on terror.

Capt. James Yee, 35, a former Fort Lewis chaplain, is accused of mishandling classified information from the U.S. prison for suspected terrorists at Guantanamo Bay. Yee ministered to Muslim prisoners there.

No, he's the third with Fort Lewis ties, if you include John Mohammed.

[SAMWolf]

Anyone else notice that the "recent converts to Islam" seem to be some of the worst fanatics in the group?

[Jaysun]

All-American Boy Now a Terror Suspect

"All-American Boy" my ruby red arse! He converted to the peaceful religion of Islam 5 years ago and did just like his other Muslim brothers have been doing. Wasn't the guy with maps of the prison in Cuba a Muslim? What about the peaceful fellow who rolled a grenade into a tent full of US soldiers at the beginning of the war, wasn't he a Muslim?

Islam is a plague - a cancer. The idiotic left, being hellbent on destroying America, have exalted Islam beyond common sense. They didn't even wait for the pile of dead Americans in New York to stop smoldering before they began screaming about "discrimination" against Muslims at airports.

[TMSuchman]

Get a short rope & a tall tree!
Hang e'm for all the world to see!

[spodefly]

Anderson, 26, a convert to Islam, is being charged with aiding the enemy after U.S. officials discovered he allegedly tried to give military data to Usama bin Laden's Al Qaeda terror network.

QED

[steplock]

this is called BS...

NO "All American Boy" would join the muslims to begin with let alone turn traitor like the rest of the pigs - oops sorry, I meant dnc jackasses.

[Chris Talk]

By reciting the Shehada, a person both becomes a Muslim and enlists as a member of Satan's reserves.

Some may appear "moderate" for a time, but at any minute Satan can pull their chain, and they will do his bidding in the end.

No Muslims, and CERTAINLY not anyone who has converted to Islam as a Westerner, as opposed to being of Mideast Islamic ancestry, ought to be allowed in any form of government service, Federal, State, or Local, and CERTAINLY not in the military!

Really, we need a constitutional amendment to outlaw and suppress Islam, and to make all persons choose between America and Muhammad once and for all. If they choose Muhammad, they lose their citizenship and are expelled to Mecca.

Call me crazy now, but nothing else will work, and it will come to that. Either that, or our grandchildren will be speaking Arabic and sniffing the carpet 5 times a day, one or the other.

[tkathy]

Anybody who would be possibly attracted to Islam should be immediately be committed to a mental hospital, because no sane person could do such an insane act.

[green nexus]

A sting was assembled, with some of the investigators posing as terrorists online...They communicated with Anderson in chat rooms to find out just how much he would be willing to reveal. Anderson, it appears, then tried to tell the agents how they might be successful in attacking U.S. armor in Iraq and provided information about "vulnerabilities" of equipment the U.S. Army was using in Iraq or is about to ship over with newly deployed troops.

Some of this seems like the government may have manufactured this whole thing, and pushed him into committing a crime he otherwise wouldn't have--that's the danger of "sting" operations. Keep in mind all this transpired over the Internet, and it's not like the conversation between the kid and the agents would be a short, blunt, "Hi, we're terrorists, what can you tell us about the Americans?" and the kid responding, "Oh sure, they have X, Y, and Z which can do A, B, and C," etc.

It's important to remember that these federal agents are trained in using psychological manipulation--they could have gradually turned the conversation in ways that made the topics seem like idle conversation, nothing criminal that would tip the kid off that he shouldn't discuss certain things online.

[vpintheak]

This loser needs to spend a very long time behind bars praising Allah. Either that or send him straight to Allah (insert hell if you wish, means the same thing).

[Chuckster]

Call me crazy now

You're crazy.

In case you hadn't noticed, the first amendment specifically prohibits congress from passing any law restricting the free exercise of religion. A constitutional amendment banning a religion will not happen.

[Jotmo]

I see your point about entrapment.

However in this instance, I don't mind even if it is.
My reasoning is that if he was susceptible to manipulation by US Government agents, he would obviously be vulnerable to manipulation by Islamoterrorists. Better we find out this way.

Besides, I'm not one who believes that a person can be "manipulated" to do something they wouldn't do anyway. They just use the "manipulators" arguments to convince themselves to do it.

He was traitor scum at heart, not an "All American Boy".

[Jotmo]

Besides, I'm not one who believes that a person can be "manipulated" to do something they wouldn't do anyway. They just use the "manipulators" arguments to convince themselves to do it.

Allow me to put a qualifier in there.

Not without some serious brainwashing, anyway. But simple prompting won't do it.

[Chris Talk]

I am well aware that the Constitution allows free exercise of religions, apparently only as long as they are NOT Christianity BTW, Ha Ha, ...

But the judges could ban Islam overnight, just as quickly as they legalized gay marriage. A charismatic President, like FDR was, could grab the Muslims just as quickly as FDR did the Japanese. But I only mildly said that I thought the Consitution might be amended. Just how much terrorism do you think Muslims would have to do in the USA, before this option were considered?

There is also possibly, the option of doing what the New York state supremes did already in 1892, and say that the freedom-of-religion provisions referred only to the legitimate and normal religions at the time and place... [that is, of course, basically just Christianity and Judaism...] and specifically banned Islam, Buddhism, various tribal and voodoo, animist etc cults and supposed table tippers, new agers, spiritualist cults, and who knows whatever as no more than fortune tellers and necromancers etc-- calling them all PRETENDED religions, and outlawing them.

Whether one is for or against such ideas, they certainly will come in as our liberties continue to erode, the only question is how fast and who will be the primary target.

In my example I spoke of Islam. It is probably more likely that Christianity will be the first religion banned.

[Free Trapper]

Do you know if Anderson is white?

I was wondering if he's one of the "blue eyes" the terrorists are so proud to have or another Black Muslim from W. State.

[green nexus]

My reasoning is that if he was susceptible to manipulation by US Government agents, he would obviously be vulnerable to manipulation by Islamoterrorists. Better we find out this way. Besides, I'm not one who believes that a person can be "manipulated" to do something they wouldn't do anyway. They just use the "manipulators" arguments to convince themselves to do it. He was traitor scum at heart, not an "All American Boy".

Very good points all. This case makes me wonder about the stability, or "manipulability," of the majority of America's young men in general.

You may have seen other threads on this incident where someone posted some of the Usenet posts this Guardsman made. He referred to his "Arabic History" class in college and the like. Given the systematically left-wing (or at least nihilist) direction of America's educational system, which this kid is a product of, I wonder how many more of these incidents we'll be hearing about in the future.

[Chuckster]

what is your suggestion for solving the problem?

Leaving the political aspects of banning a particular religion aside, I think that the Patriot Act and uniform shall-issue CCW laws in all fifty states or, better yet, Vermont style gun laws in all states can go a long way toward putting the damper on terrorist activities by domestic muslims.

I believe strongly that everyone deserves the right to practice their religion regardless of how wierd others may think it is as long as otherwise no laws are broken in the process. The fact is, there are millions upon millions of peaceful followers of Islam. They have a right to follow thier religion. Another established fact is that the Islamic faith spawns terrorists, ergo: Moslems need to be watched, we must be prepared to defend ourselves and they must know that we are watching and are prepared and have the will to act if they show the slightest sign of acting up.

Banning one of the worlds major religions would strike at the very heart and essence of the principles the United States of America was founded upon. It cannot be allowed.

[skeeter]

All this B*stard needs is a 6x10 cell & a prayer rug.

[henbane]

I was wondering if he's one of the "blue eyes" the terrorists are so proud to have

He was definitely ripe for use as a non-mideastern looking Al-Q terror-tool.

[wimpycat]

Yes, he's white. I should have thought the phrase "All-American Boy" would be a tip off, even without seeing his picture. The press often uses the phrase as a cynical code meaning "white boy who belongs to no oppressed minority."

[cyborg]

All American Boy always seem to mean 'gee we're really surprised that such a nice boy would need islam. We expect that from poor black kids but not Abercrombie and Fitch models.'

[wimpycat]

I don't think he got that high up on the Al-Qaeda food chain to be considered for anything important. From what I've heard, how he conducted his crimes was monumentally stupid. If the people taking the information he was offering had an ounce of raw intelligence, they would know he was just some Loser in Life who they could string along until they got tired of him.

[wimpycat]

Bingo!

[freedumb2003]

FRY HIM!

Even better -- strip him, tie his hands and legs and put him in Times Square with a big sign sayng who he is and what he did.

[cyborg]

I love it when the libs get caught in their rank hypocrisy.

[Chris Talk]

Ban em.

If I were as young as you I would live to see it done.

[Free Trapper]

Well! Dern my hide!

Must be the rightwing conservative showin' in me-to be thinking an "All-American boy" might be any color whatever.Guess I need to work on this racist attitude I've got. ;o)

I have wondered at times if McVeigh and Nichols hadn't converted to Islam and kept it under wraps.

Anderson seems to have a few things in common with the Ok.City murderers.

[wimpycat]

Anderson is too stupid to pull off anything spectacular. And somehow I get the impression he's going through an Islam "phase". Next year he could be a "born-again Christian", then 10 years from now he could be a Buddhist. Somehow he just strikes me as that type.

[Stultis]

Glad to hear about his background, actually. It will send an important message to FRY a clean-cut, ex-Lutheran, Amercian boy for treason. (Or can they still do hangings or firing squads?)

I tell you what, after that nonsense with Johnny Taliban, and considering the apparently solid evidence in this case, I'll be damned pissed if they don't charge treason, or whatever absolute maximum serious charge the evidence allows.

[Stultis]

And somehow I get the impression he's going through an Islam "phase".

Who cares. I don't. This "phase" has earned him execution. Try him and fry him. No more phases for this perp.

[Frank_2001]

You're right. Leftist idiots want us to embrace those who would destroy us, all in the name of "diversity". Screw 'em.

[Stultis]

I have wondered at times if McVeigh and Nichols hadn't converted to Islam and kept it under wraps.

Although McVeigh hung out with the "Indentity Christian" loons at "Elohim City," he's likely to have been a disciple of that what's-his-name Turner Diaries author out in California in respect to religion as well as Z.O.G. What's-his-name was an atheist who derided both mainstream Christians and the religious types in the racist/anti-semetic movement. McVeigh was at best a nominal Christian, and may not have even been that. There's certainly no evidence, or reason to believe, he was anything else.

[Stultis]

Oh, Jeez. We don't need the religious bigotry. (But we could use some rope.)

[Free Trapper]

I agree that there's no evidence or real reason to think M. and N. converted to Islam.It's just been a thought of mine at times because of the Philippine connections and the "reports" of their involvement with "ME" types.

A while back,two black American brothers were picked up for terrorist involvements in the Philippines.One of them had converted to Islam,it was reported.

IIRC,when being photographed by reporters,one of them kept saying "(we) are Christians".

I haven't heard what happened with them but when they were picked up,it crossed my mind that the second could easily have been Islamic,also.

The Islamics don't seem to have a problem with lies if the lies might help them in any way.

[Jaysun]

All American Boy always seem to mean 'gee we're really surprised that such a nice boy would need islam. We expect that from poor black kids but not Abercrombie and Fitch models.'

HAHA! Abercrombie and Fitch models LOL!!
The fact that Muslim conversion conjures up the idea of a black kid isn't really unreasonable. An astounding 90% of those converting to Islam in America are black. Christians need to do a better job of reaching out to the black community, lest the Muslim plight be inflicted upon all of America.

[zimdog]

"Call me crazy now, "

You're crazy.

[Chris Talk]

LOL.

Think what a change this boy went through, when he gave his heart to Muhammad.

Too bad it wasn't Jesus instead.

Parents failed to introduce him to Christ.

[Siamese Princess]

You may have seen other threads on this incident where someone posted some of the Usenet posts this Guardsman made. He referred to his "Arabic History" class in college and the like. Given the systematically left-wing (or at least nihilist) direction of America's educational system, which this kid is a product of, I wonder how many more of these incidents we'll be hearing about in the future.

Which is precisely what the left wants.

[Chuckster]

Well, I'm pushing sixty so its not often someone calls me "Young" anymore. Notwithstanding, now that the US has become a functional mobocracy, nothing would surprise me. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if same sex marriage became legal in my lifetime. d;^)