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Barbs fly over why suspect wasn't jailed (Liberal judge enabled Carlie's killer)
Bradenton Herald ^
| 2/7/04
| NEVY KAMINSKI
Posted on 02/07/2004 5:55:50 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: alisasny
Liberals are only reacting with horror to this incident because it exposes their practices to wider scrutiny IMHO. They flourish in darkness. Searing light needs to be directed on early release practices as wellas blatant failure to find guilt on the part of liberal judges.
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posted on
02/07/2004 9:11:52 AM PST
by
Truth29
To: Oatka
This type of stuff would stop on a dime if judges,parole officers and parole board members were subject to criminal neglect/dereliction of duty/ gross neglect charges.
Lets get some legislation passed to do so
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posted on
02/07/2004 9:26:31 AM PST
by
Robe
(Rome did not create a great empire with meetings, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
To: jimbo123
I'm sure he's not losing any sleep over this.
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posted on
02/07/2004 9:31:19 AM PST
by
freeangel
(freeangel)
To: Cubs Fan
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posted on
02/07/2004 11:26:21 AM PST
by
GailA
(Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
To: Robe
Yes - more laws, more government determination of what is right and what is wrong.
Increasingly, the essence of FR. Always, the antithesis of conservatism.
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posted on
02/07/2004 11:31:47 AM PST
by
lugsoul
(And I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin on the mountainside.)
To: Cubs Fan
But judges, parole boards and prison psychiatrists can let scores of evildoers loose to destroy innocent lives and never pay any price whatsoever. Your idea of "justice" would end justice as we know it. Our system is based on the idea of persons of conscience making proper decisions based on the tenants of the Law. If tghey were personally accountable for mistaken applications, no one would want to be a Judge. We would just wait for legislators to legislate every possible contingency.
This was an avoidable travesty from a judge who should have been recalled. There is an impeachment provision for jurists who are incompetent. It is there for a REASON.
Don't throw out the baby with the bathwater. I don't want to be in a system that punishes judges for making a valid mistake. (The same is true for cops).
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posted on
02/07/2004 11:53:12 AM PST
by
freedumb2003
(Peace through Strength)
To: freedumb2003
--Your idea of "justice" would end justice as we know it. Our system is based on the idea of persons of conscience making proper decisions based on the tenants of the Law. If tghey were personally accountable for mistaken applications, no one would want to be a Judge--
Oh pallease
doctors are held personally accountable for mistakes and it hasn't ended medicine, and hasn't stopped people from becoming doctors. Right now there is virtually no accontability for Judges, parole boards and prison shrinks too much is riding on their decisions that they should never have to fear any consequences for them.
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posted on
02/07/2004 12:07:41 PM PST
by
Cubs Fan
(Political correctness is the terrorist's biggest ally)
To: Cubs Fan
doctors are held personally accountable for mistakes and it hasn't ended medicine Sez who? Clearly you are not aware of MDs leaving pro-lawsuit states in droves since they can't afford malpractice insurance. And with MDs there is a theoretical objective standard that can be used -- the same is not true for legal interpretation.
In your system, judges would be held personally liable if the imprisoned (or, worse EXECUTED) an "innocent man" (like in an episode of "Law & Order") as well as future bad acts by someone who was found, by an interpretation of the evidence presented, not guilty.
If a judge makes bad decisions regularly, use the sanctions available under the current law. Don't act like a Liberal and start making new laws that will have a chilling effect.
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posted on
02/07/2004 12:20:49 PM PST
by
freedumb2003
(Everyone is stupid! That is why they do all those stupid things! -- H. Simpson.)
To: freedumb2003
--Sez who? Clearly you are not aware of MDs leaving pro-lawsuit states in droves since they can't afford malpractice insurance.--
That's because litigation has gotten out of control. Not because its somehow wrong to sue doctors for real wrongdoings.
--And with MDs there is a theoretical objective standard that can be used -- the same is not true for legal interpretation.--
objective standards could easily be made.
--In your system, judges would be held personally liable if the imprisoned (or, worse EXECUTED) an "innocent man" (like in an episode of "Law & Order") as well as future bad acts by someone who was found, by an interpretation of the evidence presented, not guilty.--
You've lost your marbles I haven't advocated any such things. However, I would say that a judge who refuses to rejail a parole violater without even having so much as a hearing should be held personally liable if the parolee kills someone.
--Don't act like a Liberal and start making new laws that will have a chilling effect.--
You should look in the mirror. There's nothing liberal about holding people accountable for what they do wrong.
And btw that chilling effect would be on the judges who think compassion is letting evildoers out to destroy more lives. If they knew that doing so might harm them personally, maybe they'd think twice about it.
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posted on
02/07/2004 12:38:57 PM PST
by
Cubs Fan
(Political correctness is the terrorist's biggest ally)
To: jimbo123
This judge, who is Jewish and a Democrat, should read the old Rabbinical saying:
He who tries to be Kind to the Cruel, ...will end up by
being Cruel to the Kind!
That is at least 1800 years old I daresay, and nothing has changed.
To: mabelkitty
Judge is lying. Violating probation by failing a mandatory drug test has nothing to do with not paying.
Bingo. They have mandatory drug tests for a reason.
Stay clean or go back to jail. There is no excuse this guy was out on the streets.
To: jimbo123
Actually, the jury that cut him loose when he did this before is much more to blame. The press ought to be staking out their houses with pictures of Carlie and insist on a comment.
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posted on
02/07/2004 1:04:12 PM PST
by
Timmy
To: laredo44
Judicial Center - 2002 Ringling Blvd No comment.
I laughed when I read that too, wondered if anyone else noticed.
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posted on
02/07/2004 1:32:43 PM PST
by
RJL
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