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The Sadness of Life After Abortion
Catholic Educator's Resource Center ^ | FR. WILLIAM SAUNDERS

Posted on 01/30/2004 7:20:45 AM PST by cpforlife.org

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To: Aquinasfan
Good post. Worth saying twice!
21 posted on 01/30/2004 8:08:14 AM PST by CSM (Council member Carol Schwartz (R.-at large), my new hero! The Anti anti Smoke Gnatzie!)
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To: Aquinasfan
How very Thomistic of you!
22 posted on 01/30/2004 8:10:35 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The defense and promotion of LIFE is not the ministry of a few but the responsibility of ALL.)
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To: Solson
Have you ever seen the article by Peter Kreeft, "Personhood Begins at Conception"?

Got link?

23 posted on 01/30/2004 8:12:06 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: CSM
It is the clearest argument for Personhood I have ever seen. He really did an amazing job presenting the argument.
24 posted on 01/30/2004 8:16:49 AM PST by Solson (Our work is the presentation of our capabilities. - Von Goethe)
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To: Aquinasfan
Personhood Begins at Conception
25 posted on 01/30/2004 8:19:15 AM PST by Solson (Our work is the presentation of our capabilities. - Von Goethe)
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To: Aquinasfan
You can also find it at :

http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/abortion/ab0004.html

26 posted on 01/30/2004 8:20:13 AM PST by Solson (Our work is the presentation of our capabilities. - Von Goethe)
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To: cpforlife.org
And no one explains to the woman that she may suffer from terrible depression many years later. I heard of this from a local woman who told me about one program at her church. They take the women through a course of counseling which cumlminates at a cemetery, where they have a kind of funeral for the aborted child. This helps some of the women get past the terrible grief, guilt, and depression. Some of them are coming down with the deep depression as long as twenty years after the abortion.
27 posted on 01/30/2004 8:21:06 AM PST by buffyt (We have all the government we can afford, it keeps growing like a cancer that will destroy its host!)
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To: cpforlife.org
I have a question for everybody. Why do the abortionists like to count all D&Cs as a statistic toward abortion. Even if the D&C is being performed because the baby died in utero? It makes me sick to think that the D&C I had in 1993 is probably counted as an abortion statistic that year. Second, how is an embryonic pregnancy counted, since it must be removed before killing the mother.
Was seruously curious about this.
28 posted on 01/30/2004 8:22:10 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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To: Aquinasfan
Finally, to read a good debate about that very subject, I encourage you to read an oldy but a goody. Here it is:

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a182196.htm

29 posted on 01/30/2004 8:22:32 AM PST by Solson (Our work is the presentation of our capabilities. - Von Goethe)
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To: cpforlife.org
I lost a baby at about three months, due to miscarriage, before I had our first child. I still wonder about that child. It was SO stressful losing it accidentally. I can't imagine the sadness of abortion!
30 posted on 01/30/2004 8:22:45 AM PST by buffyt (We have all the government we can afford, it keeps growing like a cancer that will destroy its host!)
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To: cpforlife.org
How very Thomistic of you!

Who'd a thunk? 8-)

31 posted on 01/30/2004 8:23:14 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Solson
Thanks for the link. I look forward to reading it.
32 posted on 01/30/2004 8:26:53 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: HungarianGypsy
Doctors called my miscarriage a spontaneous abortion. But that does not mean I had abortion. The baby had already died due to an accident I was in. I received a direct blow to the stomach. I had a D&C but the baby was already dead, it came out along with the placenta, before the D&C. A D&C is not an abortion, if the baby is already dead. Also, my sister had two abortions, because the fetus was trapped in the falopian tube. They had to remove the baby and the tube. There is no surgery to take a baby like that and implant it in the uterus. If there were, she would have done that. She tried for many years to have a child. Now she can't. She is too old, in bad health, and has no f. tubes.
33 posted on 01/30/2004 8:26:56 AM PST by buffyt (We have all the government we can afford, it keeps growing like a cancer that will destroy its host!)
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To: cpforlife.org
No woman I know who has had an abortion has been able to ever lead a normal life. The guilt never goes away. These woman need to know that no matter what the Supreme court says about the child growing in them, they are ruining their own lives too ,if they kill him/ her.

The alternatives are much easier to live with.

34 posted on 01/30/2004 8:27:09 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross (Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
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To: Solson
The article was amazing and very well thought out and expressed. I applaud this author. I now have no doubts about conception being the point of peronhood, and better yet I have a clear and logical reasoning for that stance.

Thank you.
35 posted on 01/30/2004 8:27:37 AM PST by CSM (Council member Carol Schwartz (R.-at large), my new hero! The Anti anti Smoke Gnatzie!)
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To: CSM
Make sure you read the FR link. It was a worthy debate.
36 posted on 01/30/2004 8:33:05 AM PST by Solson (Our work is the presentation of our capabilities. - Von Goethe)
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To: Diva Betsy Ross
You are RIGHT! A friend of mine got pregnant when she went on a trip with her fiance, they were going to get married while on their trip. Instead, they broke up. She came home without him, but pregnant with his child. It seemed to everyone at the time that she should have an abortion. This was in the late 1960s before any of us grew a brain and heart! Now that her one and only daughter is grown, and has two children of her own, I am sure Sherry is grateful that she decided to have the child. She spends many happy hours with those two grandsons. Everyone is so sorry they told her to have an abortion. (I think Sherry had already had one in high school, but she didn't admit it, long story). I don't think she wanted to have a second one. Sure it was hard for Sherry and her daughter. Sherry did get married to another man and he raised her daughter with her, gave her his name. Life was hard for them. They were in no position to afford a baby then. But looking back, what a miracle and blessing that daughter is to them all!
37 posted on 01/30/2004 8:35:06 AM PST by buffyt (We have all the government we can afford, it keeps growing like a cancer that will destroy its host!)
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To: cpforlife.org
I agree completely with this article. Having gone through it with a fiancee/wife I know what it does to both people and their relationship. We were both so scared, but so excited about her pregnancy, young love will do that to you. We had even gone so far as to pick out names and sign up for married housing when my then fiancee totally changed course and decided on the abortion. I sadly went along. We were young, stupid, scared and easily swayed by the advice of others, not an excuse just a fact. We were both Catholic which probably just made it worse. I have always had problems dealing with it, but now that I am in my 50's with no children I often look back and wonder what if. My wife, though she was adamant that she never thought about it, never wanted children and couldn't even stand to hold our nieces and nephew.

We were married 1.5 years after the abortion and remained married for 17 years, but our relationship never recovered from our trip to NY in 1971. My wife died in 1997 at the age of 46 from breast cancer.

If their is one thing I could go back and change in my life that would be it. I have no way of knowing what our life together would have been like if we had chosen differently, but it is my firm belief that when two people kill a baby conceived in love, it is impossible for their love for one another to survive undamaged.
38 posted on 01/30/2004 8:37:35 AM PST by redangus
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To: CSM; Solson; SpookBrat; Brad's Gramma
I'd like to share some thoughts on this subject...will have to do so a bit later today.

spookie and grammie, thought you would like to share.

Off to take daughter to choir practice...

39 posted on 01/30/2004 8:43:17 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: redangus
Bless your heart...sincerely.
40 posted on 01/30/2004 8:44:46 AM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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