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1 posted on 01/29/2004 5:46:25 AM PST by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe
BUMP
2 posted on 01/29/2004 5:48:23 AM PST by Dante3
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To: keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; Capitalist Eric; hershey; TomInNJ; dagnabbit; ...
""Including illegal Mexican workers in our Social Security System will add untold billions of dollars in future liabilities. The September 2003 GAO Report basically says the cost estimates being used by the Treasury Department and the Social Security Administration are not founded in actuarial realities. Among the many questions raised by the GAO, most challenge the adequacy or the SSA’s analysis of future costs."

I don't like this. Initially, Bush balked at endorsing concurrent receipt benefits for disabled U.S. military veterans because it would cost too much.

Where is the same concern when it comes to granting social security benefits to illegal migrants from another country?

3 posted on 01/29/2004 5:51:08 AM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: Happy2BMe
I just might go fishing in the next presidential election and just forget to vote...
4 posted on 01/29/2004 5:55:24 AM PST by 2banana
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To: Happy2BMe
Tancredo says that any immigration reform bill that comes out of Congress will be worse than Bush's plan.
8 posted on 01/29/2004 6:10:33 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Happy2BMe
I wouldn't worry about social security.

If the 10 to 20 million illegals get the Shamnesty deal, each will get to bring in five more. That's fifty to one hundred million thirdworlders dropped on us in a year or two, at most.

There's no surviving that.
12 posted on 01/29/2004 6:24:27 AM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Happy2BMe
Tancredo is about the only voice of sanity left in D.C.
19 posted on 01/29/2004 6:53:19 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: Happy2BMe
Tancredo BUMP.
20 posted on 01/29/2004 6:56:29 AM PST by reelfoot
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To: Happy2BMe
If this plan goes through SS is dead.
22 posted on 01/29/2004 6:58:34 AM PST by Bikers4Bush (Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
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To: Happy2BMe
In 2025:

14% of Mexicans will be 60+
30% of Mexicans will be 20-39

24% of Americans will be 60+
26% of Americans will be 20-39

But then again, Tom Tancredo seems to think letting people day-trade your mutual fund is good for you...

26 posted on 01/29/2004 7:14:04 AM PST by hedgie
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To: Happy2BMe
Mexican citizens with fewer than 40 coverage credits[calendar quarters of active employment]will be permitted to combine their annual earnings under their home country’s social security program with their annual earnings under the U.S. Social Security program to meet the 40-credit requirement...

Outrageous! Out-frickin'-rageous!!!

28 posted on 01/29/2004 7:15:55 AM PST by kevao
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To: Happy2BMe
Totalization is defined as a globalist giveaway of rightful American goods and propety.
31 posted on 01/29/2004 7:24:52 AM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: Happy2BMe
This sounds even worse than the amnesty crap that bush is pushing for.
It's hard to believe that bush is so WRONG on these issues.
33 posted on 01/29/2004 7:29:53 AM PST by chatham
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To: Happy2BMe
This is all just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. While I certainly disagree with legitimizing illegal aliens so that they can be included in the system, is that the fatal blow? IMHO, not by a long shot. The death throws began when SS Assets were first diverted into the Federal budget. The bill for this is ballooning just as the population’s ability to pay it is waning. The situation is going to get a lot worse before it can get better. SS bankruptcy is projected to be 15 years or so from now. For me the goals are to 1) not need it, and 2) not be dragged down by it.
36 posted on 01/29/2004 7:40:26 AM PST by Jack of all Trades
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To: Happy2BMe
Ah yes! The plan is going well! NAFTA, CAFTA, FTAA, AU (The American Union). Not to worry folks. Everything is on schedule.
40 posted on 01/29/2004 7:46:35 AM PST by navyblue
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To: Happy2BMe; bootless
I was listening to the local radio station KSFO this morning, and one of the guests (I can't remember who it was, I wasn't completely awake yet) said that the political folks in the White House were actively seeking to find a candidate to run against Tancredo in the primaries. It's no secret that they don't like Mr. Tancredo - he's a thorn in the side of the administration. Anybody else hear this? Bootless, you listen to KSFO, right? Did you happen to hear this? If it's true, I think it is despicable.
42 posted on 01/29/2004 7:52:20 AM PST by .38sw
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
54 posted on 01/29/2004 9:00:42 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: Happy2BMe
Dammit, just let me out now. If I can't do better than the 0.6% return SS will allegedly give me, I deserve to eat cat food.
56 posted on 01/29/2004 9:07:50 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Happy2BMe
And every Mexican worker who retires on our dime will live to be 110 years old (at least).
57 posted on 01/29/2004 9:08:46 AM PST by junta
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To: Happy2BMe
Wanna fix it? Wanna make Congress sensitive to what happens to SSI?

Let's demand Congress's retirement be pegged to an average SSI benefit of their respective states.
58 posted on 01/29/2004 9:09:50 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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My Ohio, Pennsylvania, New York, and New Jersey friends: Just passing this along so you can keep current in the debate on immigration.

In God We Trust…..Semper Fi!

65 posted on 01/29/2004 2:53:55 PM PST by North Coast Conservative (Never take a gun to a gunfight that is less than .40 cal)
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To: Happy2BMe
Bump
67 posted on 01/29/2004 6:02:42 PM PST by jokar (Beware of the White European Male Christian theological complex !!)
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To: Happy2BMe; Mr. Mojo
This is a nightmare coming true!!
72 posted on 01/29/2004 8:50:23 PM PST by NRA2BFree (DemonRATS who get too big for their britches will be exposed in the end.)
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To: Happy2BMe
But if he is a "true-conservative" he should be applauding the eventual collapse of this socialist scheme.
75 posted on 01/29/2004 9:05:32 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Happy2BMe
Will he push for privatization so this won't be an issue?
76 posted on 01/29/2004 9:14:25 PM PST by Republican Wildcat (<a href="http://www.kydemocrat.com">Criminal Enterprise</a>)
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To: Happy2BMe
Bttt
114 posted on 01/30/2004 8:25:06 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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