[theDentist]

Activist rocker Moby
Who?

comedian Margaret Cho
Who?

[risk]

The comediene gathering material in real life?

[McGruff]

After Drudge's account was linked by the right-leaning FreeRepublic.com, Cho received dozens of ugly E-mails

How do they make this connection unless the email authors stated they were freepers, you can't send her a Freep Mail.

[prairiebreeze]

Everyone knows that Margaret's comedy is very irreverent and Lenny Bruce-style confrontational, and Matt Drudge took it out of context and exposed her to some really irresponsible and vile reactions."

So Cho never has to account for what she says because of artistic license? She can always squirm out of responsibility for statements?

I think not. And I'll need to see proof before I accept that all these vile emails she supposedly received were from actual FReepers. More likely DUmmies or DNC plants.

Prairie

[AppyPappy]

Geez, Moby, grow a set. There is nothing worse than a whiney little girley rapper.

[Vigilantcitizen]

[thesummerwind]

Drudge shot back: "Those E-mails are mild compared to what I receive on a daily basis. That is the nature of the Internet. Moby and his friends just have to 'butch up.'

"butch up" - I'd say some of those Hollywierd whacko fems already have "butched up".

[G L Tirebiter]

Moby and his friends just have to 'butch up.'"

Googled "butch up". LOL

[Kenton]

...Bush is masquerading as a 'compassionate conservative,' but they've now exposed their extremely right-wing, misogynistic, racist agenda."

Yada, yada, yada.

Same old kneejerk defensiveness from the "liberals can say anything they like, but nobody's allowed to criticize them" crowd.

Times change, Moby. It's you leftwingers that are the out-of-touch-with-the mainstream weirdos. So keep on beating the same old tune out on your tinny little drum. While you're at it, paint a big "L" on your forehead.

[Katya]

Nah, freepers didn't send those comments, they were far too banal and ignorant.
Any comments freepers would have sent would have been irreverant and insulting.

[HenryLeeII]

Drudge shot back: "Those E-mails are mild compared to what I receive on a daily basis. That is the nature of the Internet. Moby and his friends just have to 'butch up.'"

A nice parting shot by Drudge aimed at Moby's lack of masculinity and Cho's Rosie O'Donut-out-but-not-out status (I'm sure she really really likes Tom Cruise, just like O'Donut did when she was still masquerading as the Queen of Nice).

[mattdono]

All I can think of is (of all things) a line from an Eminem song:

...and Moby
you can get stomped by Obie,
you 36 year old bald headed f*g, bl*w me
you don't know me
you're too old
let go,
its over
no body listens to techno!

Yeah, I know that Eminem is disgusting, but it seemed to be an equally appropriate to Moby racist, misogynistic BS.

[mattdono turns away from computer] Hey honey, bring me another cup of coffee. And make sure you do the dishes before you leave for work. Oh, and make sure that meatloaf is on the table tonight when I get home.
[mattdono turns back to computer]

It's like I was saying, conservatives aren't misogynistic, we just like coffee, clean dishes, and meatloaf. <smirk>

[sausageseller]

"I was outraged," Moby told me. "Everyone knows that Margaret's comedy is very irreverent and Lenny Bruce-style confrontational, and Matt Drudge took it out of context and exposed her to some really irresponsible and vile reactions."

SS.Her act is vile and irresponsible! Moby can't take it when it is put back at her. The little weasel should shut up!

[jaime1959]

"Everyone knows that Margaret's comedy is very irreverent and Lenny Bruce-style confrontational, and Matt Drudge took it out of context and exposed her to some really irresponsible and vile reactions."

Just once I wish these activist/confrontational "artists" would say some outrageous and confrontational things about the prophet Muhammad and his followers. How about a play depicting Muhammad as a homosexual? Or the Wahhabis as a bunch of smelly fanatics with small penises, who want to return the world to the 12th century? Now, THAT would be revolutionary!

[facedown]

...right-leaning FreeRepublic.com,

Right-leaning?

I'd say we do a little more than lean.

[optimistically_conservative]

Gee, what would Moby say if the city had called the "gala" a hate group?

[AmericanInTokyo]

"Cho received dozens of ugly E-mails, most of them unprintable in a family newspaper"

Har! By the LIBERALS' owned perverted, updated sense of definition of what constitutes "FAMILY" in America these days, why every freakin' F word and reference to bodily functions and parts could well be included in a "Family Newspaper".

[FFIGHTER]

And Cho's tirade was family friendly? Oh I forgot, we are talking about liberal "nontraditional" families, so the answer is yes, little Johnny's two Mothers would not be upset about the tirade at the "Anti-Bush Gala", for it is not racist or hateful if it comes from the left. (big gag)

[adam_az]

Nearly a decade ago when I was a techno musician who did live performances, I had the opportunity to open for Moby and spent the afternoon with him.

He seemed like a nice guy. We didn't talk about politics, just eclectic old synthesizers. The most memorable part of our meeting though was his body odor. No joke, he had to be one of the smelliest people I've ever met. It was summertime in AZ, and even with the AC on, I had to crack a window in the car to let some air in.

[lormand]

I didn't get to email her. I feel totally left out, kinda like a red-headed step child (my apologies to red-headed step children).

Can someone provide her email address so I can tell her what I think of her political hate-speech?

[.cnI redruM]

Cho needs to share her problems with two women who could help; Miss Manners and Jenny Craig. As for Moby, I'll leave him to Eminem. Moby is talented, but what an idiot. I wouldn't borrow his ideas unless I wanted to go to a Halloween Party as a total maroon.

[Kozak]

Wait a minute. Those weren't racist emails. He's taking it out of context. Those were humorous emails riffing on Ms Cho's Asian American background and strictly meant as part of a comic dialog. See, no need to get huffy or defensive. It was meant in fun. Just like Ms Chow, I meand Cho's stuff...

[NativeSon]

Drudge shot back: "Those E-mails are mild compared to what I receive on a daily basis. That is the nature of the Internet. Moby and his friends just have to 'butch up.'"

That's a great retort - akin to "don't be such a sissy-f@g, you siisy-f@g".

[AD from SpringBay]

Moby was outraged? Nice. Now about those lyrics? Funny that outrage can only go one way after you make your first million.

Remember boys and girls - if you're not a liberal you're supposed to shut up.

[11x62]

" Cho received dozens of ugly E-mails, most of them unprintable in a family newspaper."

Like her original comments were printable in a family newspaper.

[MamaLucci]

"I know that I have not pulled punches with the way that I beat the s-- out of Dumya,..."

OMG... Margaret Cho is MurryMom!

[N. Theknow]

This:

"Despite all of this stupid bull-- that the Republican National Committee, or whatever the f-- they call them, that they were saying that they're all angry about how two of these ads were comparing Bush to Hitler? I mean, out of thousands of submissions, they find two. They're like f-- looking for Hitler in a haystack. ...George Bush is not Hitler. He would be, if he f-- applied himself."

Then this:

After Drudge's account was linked by the right-leaning FreeRepublic.com, Cho received dozens of ugly E-mails, most of them unprintable in a family newspaper.

Ummm......(shakes head)....the stuff just writes itself.

*sigh*

[adam_az]

Margaret cHo Chi Mihn and Moby

A Twinky Eater... and a Twink.

How appropriate.

[evets]

[leprechaun9]

"Cho received dozens of ugly E-mails, most of them unprintable in a family newspaper."

Hey Moby DICK, what part of her routine would you print in a family newspaper?

[finnman69]

"I'm an unfunny gluttonous drunken drug addict with little talent who mocks my own race to eek out a living"

Hmmm, no racist remarks there Moby, just the truth about your racist comedienne comrade...too bad.

I think Eminem said it best:

"And Moby? You can get stomped by Obie
You thirty-six year old baldheaded fag, blow me
You don't know me, you're too old, let go
It's over, nobody listen to techno"

[adam_az]

Margaret Cho thinks Blacks and Asians should focus on hating whites

http://www.hybridmagazine.com/films/0902/notorius-cho.shtml
Preceding the film is an uproariously funny cartoon, in which Cho implores Koreans and African Americans to work out their difficulties—that way, she says, they can focus on hating white people. It plays like Do The Right Thing in therapy, or better yet, Spike Lee meets Sesame Street. Either way, it’s a fitting introduction to Cho’s unique brand of comedy.



Margaret Cho - Race obsessed idiot!

http://margaretcho.net/blog/barneys.htm
There is a kind of effortlessness to their style, where it makes sense that they work there, even though they are black, and Barney's is the whitest place on earth. Seriously though. White people go there to get their white on. So here on the top floor, where they keep the most dope expensive shit is where the Black guys work because they have the style. They have the knowledge. They have the inner aesthetic that tells the boys from the men and that can make a boy into a man and a man into a boy, depending on what the client is looking for.
(snip)
White people are privy to all the things that Black people have, except for the burden of race. The burden of going into these expensive stores and being watched by the staff like you are going to steal something any second. The burden of not being taken seriously.



Margaret Cho, Idiot

http://maroon.uchicago.edu/voices/articles/2004/01/13/margaret_cho_discuss.php
On her clothing lines:
I have two clothing lines. High Class Cho and High Class Ass. High Class Cho is a clothing line that sells online. It has very elegant fashions. I designed with my partner, Ava Stander.



Margaret Cho - One messed up chick

http://www.asianweek.com/2002_06_21/news_noodle.html
“This is so important,” she said, “because there is nothing out there for us. I look at this and think about the teenagers, about the young people. You know, its hard enough to grow up gay, but its even harder to grow up Asian. We’re not like white people; we don’t have the support of our families.”

[Ignatz]

Everyone knows that Margaret's comedy Drudge's reporting is very irreverent and Lenny Bruce-style truthful and confrontational, and Matt Drudge Margaret Cho took it out of context really made these hate-filled statements and exposed herself to some really irresponsible well-deserved and vile reactions."

Remember: In the Liberal mind, Speech, whether Free or Hate, isn't defined by what is said, but by who says it!
Behind that mind-set lies this Orwellian truth (for Libs): "Some animals are more equal than others."

[GasparSantiago]

The thing with Moby is that "Moby" is not his real name. His real name is "Richard Melville Hall". He is a direct decendant of Herman Melville who wrote the book "Moby Dick". Now why he chose the stage name Moby is something I will never understand. I would think that the latter part of that book title would have been much more fitting, don`t you?

[lainie]

If Moby thinks he can shame (or even keep up with) Drudge in a public verbal jousting match he's in for an education. I've heard Moby's idea of writing and it ain't all that.

Drudge has bested far bigger fish :-) Should be entertaining.

[sweetliberty]

[CaptRon]

"I know that I have not pulled punches with the way that I beat the s-- out of Dumya,

That is hyeterical!!! However did she come up with that!? She must be a comedic genius!

[wallcrawlr]

It sounds like the Fr reputation is growing...too bad this forum is perceived that way.

Where is the Fr marketing campaign to define what this place is about. If Fr doesn't communicate it everyone else will?

[PBRSTREETGANG]

A jihad lead by Moby? Call me underwhelmed.

[NYCVirago]

Good for Drudge. And Moby is full of it -- Margaret Cho posted even more profane comments about Bush on her own website. If anything, the stuff Drudge quoted were her tamer comments. Eminem was right about Moby.

[kcvl]

I know that I have not pulled punches with the way that I beat the shit out of Dumya, I mean Dubya, but there seemed to be nothing in the defense of his term of ruin, nobody exactly pointing out my perceived wrongs, nothing political at all. What was brought up for debate was answered by people telling me that I was a fat, ugly, gook that should go back to my country but before I left, fuck some pigs. Also, my comments were taken out of context, which is very important when you are a comedian. I was not delivering a speech, but merely there to spit my rhymes and recognize.


how come all my bosses have always been white men? Why are all the rich dudes that I know white dudes? Why is my experience with white men so different from your experience of being a white man? Do people go up to you and ask why your eyes are so big? Is it impossible for you to get a cab in the city? When you are in line with other white folks that you do not know, does the person behind the counter just assume you are all together?


I think I pay more taxes than you, and I am black, Asian, female, etc. Especially etc. I am the OG of etc. I fucking pay a muthafuckin' shitload a taxes and shit. I am talking 'bout QUARTERLY!!!!


We haven't learned much, really, if you walked through life alongside me, maybe you'd see how things aren't so fanfuckingtastic and shit.

The taxes you pay are not going to the irresponsible or the illegitimate. They go to a complex array of laundering schemes, simulated searches for weapons of mass destruction, undisclosed locations for Cheney to kick it in style. The myth of you reaching in your purse and paying for the welfare/ghetto/thug/underage momma population who will not pull their own weight is a sad story that you bought with your own poverty of knowledge. I ain't saying you ignant, but you didn't live where I done did.

I resent the fact that if I fall in love with a woman, I wouldn't be able to make her my wife. It would be against the law. I would not be able to have children with her because the government would not allow us to adopt them, or maybe we would have to give our children to Social Services because since we are the same sex, we are unfit for parenting. I resent the fact that if I die, she would not be able to collect life insurance and have to go on without me, without income, without the societal sympathy and support given to the widowed, or if she left me for someone she liked better, as you illustrated in your worst case scenario above without the child support, if we were allowed to keep and have the kids in the first place. I feel your pain playa.

I want to make people laugh. I want to spit rhymes on the mic. I want to make some people feel like they have a voice, that they could count on mine to speak up for them, that I am brave and a gangsta, that I love hip hop and Elliott Smith. I want to remember all the family, not from my homeland mind you, my chosen family, who are dead because of bigotry, ignorance, intolerance and make sure that they are not forgotten and did not die in vain.

I cannot be discredited because no one has done given me the credit card in the first place.

Rush was so high he needed protection. He was the Rick James of political pundits. That fool did some SERIOUS drugs. I bet Keith Richards is eating his barely beating heart out.

My homeland is tha UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
MUTHAFUCKA!!!!!!!!

I would like to see them educated, on their own terms, with whatever they might need, an overhead projector, flashcards, crayons, markers that smell like fruit, rubber cement, #2 pencils - all that. I would give them all the finger paint and avocado seeds that they could sprout on the windowsill so they could learn something about the way things grow, then maybe bumping them up a grade, and then s-l-o-w-l-y having the idea introduced that maybe it would be possible we could actually allow for the separation of church and state, to live in the country that this is supposed to be, you know, that land of the free, home of the brave - all that shit.

It's aiiigghht. You just don't know a lot of shit. I understand. You are trying. You go girl. I am not gonna playa hate. I congratulate.

Oh no, I have been a ho, and I do not wish to make my ho mistakes once again. I ask for my money up front. Why you thinking about falling? Do you want to jump?

Best,
Margaret Cho

---

1/18/2004

Bush done did it again. What is this fool's problem?
He obviously is wrongheaded on purpose, as if his
advisors like Karl "Killa, but not from Manila" Rove are trying to make him look like an even bigger idiot so that they will not have to endure another term with his dumb ass. On the day after he laid a wreath on Dr. Martin Luther King Jr's grave, he installs 'Judge' Charles Pickering, legendary segregationist and anti- abortionist, to the Fifth Circuit of Appeals, which handles Texas, Louisiana and Mississippi, the states which were affected most by the words of King and the brave and burgeoning community that were starting to know their strength and power in the wake of the death of Emmett Till and Rosa Parks' blatant refusal to move to the back of the bus. Why bother going to visit the great Dr. King, if you are gonna turn around and try to unravel the civil rights movement all these years after his revolutionary ministry brought people of color a voice in America? How dare you Curious George? You are one monkey head used Lipton tea bag. This to me is sickening lunacy, hypocrisy at its finest, and bad muthafuckin' timing, yo. The only thing he could have done worse was barf, like when his daddy went to Japan.

This support of the 'Judge' Pickering is meant to be a slap in the face of the Democrats who have long been accused of being anti-South. The problem is that the minorities living in the Fifth Circuit suffer so Bush can say "You are not the boss of me." As if we had a shortage of young African-American males in the prison system.

Pickerin' was picketin' for segregation - and now he a JUDGE!!!!! I am not trying to say that the South is a bad place, no no no - not at all. Thank God not everyone there thinks like this or has the personal history of racism and sexism that this 'judge' has. What I have to say is that the stereotype of the redneck Southerner is getting on my fucking nerves. I spend a lot of time in these states, and I enjoy good times in New Orleans, Nashville, Houston - as I have found many like minded individuals. Politics has less to do with where you live than where your heart is.

Compassion, civil rights and equality are not arguing points between Republicans and Democrats. Neither is good sense. Southern democrats exist, yes they do, in fantastic numbers, and they have more at stake in this election year, and frankly, far much more to lose. Some Southern states having higher populations of minorities with a greater disparity in terms of class and caste and cost of living than the billionaires Bush refuses to leave behind.

In many of the small Southern towns, I make my way through decaying, dilapidated buildings and new, pristine palaces which exist on the same block. Malnutrition and Moet, WIC and Waterford can manage to mingle and we somehow in the last four years are starting to find it acceptable that we are living in a Third World country. It is happening in the North, the West, the East, all of everywhere, but I guess I see it more in the South, since I spent more time there last year than anywhere else. Unimaginable wealth and disgusting displays of conspicuous consumption throw the hideous poverty into grim relief, and those who live in it, on either side of that particular hypothetical type of Mason-Dixon line, feel it, are about to throw down. The beef between the North and the South is as dead as the East Coast West Coast rapper battles, and it is taking people an awfully long time to realize this, partially because of Dumya's fool actions and the kind of blind faith that we once had in our government, that some are clinging to, because they are so afraid that the world is going to hell in a carry on and all they have left is the vague hope that Bush isn't as dumb as he actually is. Either that or they are too stupid and proud to admit they were wrong.

Republicans are denouncing Bush, not their conservatism, because of his Duh-plomacy, his Duh- mocracy, his Duh-molition of our nation. Worst of all he managed to Duh-file the grave of the greatest man this country has ever known.

Take Monday off, it is an order, not a request, not a suggestion. Do it out of respect and remembrance that once among us, there was a man called Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. who changed the world with the power of his voice and his insistence that no one keep their silence. He is no longer here to speak, but he still speaks through many who treasure the freedom we are supposed to have, the idea that we are all human, all each and every one of us important, that the color of one's skin should have nothing to do with the capacity to do anything, and that we are all the same, if not on the outside, deep within, in the quiet silence of our psyche, in the dark night of the soul. He, who once had a dream, must be honored and called out to for guidance, and you know I do not observe holidays, but for this one, I go all out. We must keep his dream alive, for if we do not, it will become a nightmare. It has already started to.

I wonder if the 'Judge' will try to keep people of color from using his bathroom.

---

1/13/2004

Magical Night with MoveOn.org

Moveon.org moved the crowd and the minds of all the people involved. I met Chuck D - Chuck DDDDDDDD!!!!!!!! We went to the soundcheck at Hammerstein, earlier in the day, and saw Chuck D and The Fine Arts Militia rocking a new version of "Fight the Power." He is beautiful and the terrific strength and promise that he brought the world so many years ago has only grown and prospered. He was my teacher. He told us that we had a voice. That the media wouldn't be putting him on prime time because they were too afraid of the truth. Chuck D brought the truth, brought it again and again. I got to tell him so and speak to him about his impact on the lives of all those who didn't know we were allowed to speak. He is a gentle soul, generous and kind. He accepted my compliments, that he is a visionary, a revolutionary, a genius, a true leader. He hugged me, introduced me to some of The Fine Arts Militia, and they did a banging performance knocking us all down with the funk. It was a moveable feast of the most important thinkers of our time.

I bum rushed Al Franken and Michael Moore in the green room, with congratulations and warmth. Al Franken jokingly remarked that I gave a more enthusiastic greeting to Michael Moore - but then again, I was so blown away and starstruck by Al Franken, the moment was just escalating, and then the Magical Mystery Moore right behind him. It was all so overwhelming.

Moby and Vernon Reid opened the show with the best version of the "Star Spangled Banner." I'd never heard it with thrashing guitars before. Moby is just like you think he might be. Shy, darling, charming, organized. Vernon is hilarious. In the green room we were talking about this cheese that looked like bread, and then when we found out it was cheese and not bread, Vernon kept going on about how there are so many ways that cheese can go awry. It is true!! Cheese can fuck you up sometimes, and I am not even referring to lactose intolerance. He brought up the tragic nature of the brie omelet. How wrong that the rind is in there, and then you get a big bite of mold without warning. We live in troubled times.

I had major posse with me, got to see old friends, Rufus Wainright and Janeane Garofalo. I remember Rufus from the Largo days, and he rocked the waistcoat like it was 1899. I called him "Lord Byron" because he was bringing me back to the Romantic Poets era all over again. Let's do some laudanum and stay up all night writing gothic novellas. His performance was magnificent and grand as he is to the manner born. Or the manor born.

It is weird and chaotic to be at events like this. I wish I could take you all and show you how strange it is being around people you usually only see on tv. It's an alternate universe, feeling like stepping into the screen for a moment. I realize I have been around so long I know a lot of famous people, and it isn't a brag, I am just old and shit. Nobody seems to really hang out, and they all separate into either their own spaces to watch the shows, or disappear into their dressing rooms. This event had a lot more unity, there was a camaraderie between the artists that was more human, less VIP. We had a mission, to educate and to bring together disparate elements of our society that have much more in common than anyone realized. I hope that the contributions made by the major politicos and the monied liberals helps us to get that fucking shithead out of office.

Bush in 30 Seconds was a brilliant concept and the night was devoted to all the people who made ads on their computers, using their own money, their own hearts and minds, and most importantly, their right to free speech. It was the first time in a long while where I felt proud to be an American.


http://www.margaretcho.com/blog/blog.htm

[Casloy]

We right wingers don't need to be incited. We come by this naturally. Anytime we see an ignorant has been calling our man a Nazi we are ready to fight back. Get used it, liberal running dogs, we are here to stay and we aren't taking your crap anymore. You wanna shoot off your mouth and throw pointless insults, go for it. But just remember, we are better at pointless insults than you are, and you are an easier target.

How stupid do you have to be if your audience has shrunk dramatically over the years and you deliberately insult about half of what's left of it? Why don't you just get fatter and less funny (if that is possible) and see where that takes you.

[Timesink]

Didn't Lloyd Grove come into some minor contact with FR via the DC chapter not too long ago? Shouldn't he have known better than to automatically assume those emails came from us just because someone else claims so.

And how did he end up at a downmarket tabloid from the Washington Post?