Cho-Time for Moby vs. Drudge (FR Mentioned)

The New York Daily News ^ | Friday, January 23, 2004 | Lloyd Grove

[kristinn]

Activist rocker Moby is leading a jihad against cybergossip Matt Drudge, blaming him for inciting "far right-wingers" who sent abusive and racist E-mails to comedian Margaret Cho.

On his Web site and in private messages to friends, Moby has been claiming that Drudge "took out of context" Cho's stream of anti-Republican invective - intended as comedy shtick - during last week's moveon.org awards show at the Hammerstein Ballroom.

"I was outraged," Moby told me. "Everyone knows that Margaret's comedy is very irreverent and Lenny Bruce-style confrontational, and Matt Drudge took it out of context and exposed her to some really irresponsible and vile reactions."

"That's absurd," Drudge responded. He pointed out that the posts on drudgereport.com had clearly identified Cho as a "comedian" and set the scene for her profanity-laced remarks, which he published at length under the headline "RAW RAGE AT BUSH DURING MOVEON.ORG AWARDS."

A couple of days after posting the excerpts, Drudge published Cho's complete routine from the event.

Among her saltier observations, during the liberal group's celeb-studded gala to honor political ads attacking President Bush: "Despite all of this stupid bull-- that the Republican National Committee, or whatever the f-- they call them, that they were saying that they're all angry about how two of these ads were comparing Bush to Hitler? I mean, out of thousands of submissions, they find two. They're like f-- looking for Hitler in a haystack. ...George Bush is not Hitler. He would be, if he f-- applied himself."

After Drudge's account was linked by the right-leaning FreeRepublic.com, Cho received dozens of ugly E-mails, most of them unprintable in a family newspaper. (A typical message advised the California-born Korean-American: "Go back to Asia you slanted eye whore.")

On her own Web site this week, Cho wrote to a concerned fan: "I know that I have not pulled punches with the way that I beat the s-- out of Dumya, I mean Dubya."

Moby told me: "The only good to come of this is that the extreme right has shown their true colors. ...Bush is masquerading as a 'compassionate conservative,' but they've now exposed their extremely right-wing, misogynistic, racist agenda."

Drudge shot back: "Those E-mails are mild compared to what I receive on a daily basis. That is the nature of the Internet. Moby and his friends just have to 'butch up.'"

[theDentist]

Activist rocker Moby
Who?

comedian Margaret Cho
Who?

[risk]

The comediene gathering material in real life?

[Spiff]

Who?
Who?

Who the f--- gives a s--- who? (as Moby or Cho would say...)

[McGruff]

After Drudge's account was linked by the right-leaning FreeRepublic.com, Cho received dozens of ugly E-mails

How do they make this connection unless the email authors stated they were freepers, you can't send her a Freep Mail.

[prairiebreeze]

Everyone knows that Margaret's comedy is very irreverent and Lenny Bruce-style confrontational, and Matt Drudge took it out of context and exposed her to some really irresponsible and vile reactions."

So Cho never has to account for what she says because of artistic license? She can always squirm out of responsibility for statements?

I think not. And I'll need to see proof before I accept that all these vile emails she supposedly received were from actual FReepers. More likely DUmmies or DNC plants.

Prairie

[AppyPappy]

Geez, Moby, grow a set. There is nothing worse than a whiney little girley rapper.

[Vigilantcitizen]

[kristinn]

Anybody can say they're a freeper in an e-mail. The FR reference is a gratuitous smear.

[capt. norm]

Margaret Cho is a shapeless mass of cholesterol that had her own TV show for a few weeks in the early 90's.

The only funny person on her comedy sitcom was her grandmother....who was a hoot, but couldn't make up for Margaret's lack of talent.

Having no luck with guys because she looked like a giant marshmallow with eyes, she decided to become a lesbian and try her luck elsewhere.

This is the first time that even her name has come up in years so she has to go for that extra 15 minutes of fame no matter what it takes.

[50sDad]

Margaret Cho is a shapeless mass of cholesterol that had her own TV show for a few weeks in the early 90's.

And boy, didn't they try to spin it as "Rosanne" all over again...tried to spin her into being "family entertainment." And then, like Judy Tenuda, bits and pieces of who she really was started slopping out over the edge into the family audience they sought to gull, and dang, there went the ratings. (Combined with the fact that her character just wasn't likable or funny...)

[thesummerwind]

Drudge shot back: "Those E-mails are mild compared to what I receive on a daily basis. That is the nature of the Internet. Moby and his friends just have to 'butch up.'

"butch up" - I'd say some of those Hollywierd whacko fems already have "butched up".

[G L Tirebiter]

Moby and his friends just have to 'butch up.'"

Googled "butch up". LOL

[Kenton]

...Bush is masquerading as a 'compassionate conservative,' but they've now exposed their extremely right-wing, misogynistic, racist agenda."

Yada, yada, yada.

Same old kneejerk defensiveness from the "liberals can say anything they like, but nobody's allowed to criticize them" crowd.

Times change, Moby. It's you leftwingers that are the out-of-touch-with-the mainstream weirdos. So keep on beating the same old tune out on your tinny little drum. While you're at it, paint a big "L" on your forehead.

[Katya]

Nah, freepers didn't send those comments, they were far too banal and ignorant.
Any comments freepers would have sent would have been irreverant and insulting.

[HenryLeeII]

Drudge shot back: "Those E-mails are mild compared to what I receive on a daily basis. That is the nature of the Internet. Moby and his friends just have to 'butch up.'"

A nice parting shot by Drudge aimed at Moby's lack of masculinity and Cho's Rosie O'Donut-out-but-not-out status (I'm sure she really really likes Tom Cruise, just like O'Donut did when she was still masquerading as the Queen of Nice).

[kristinn]

I have no idea about that.

[mattdono]

All I can think of is (of all things) a line from an Eminem song:

...and Moby
you can get stomped by Obie,
you 36 year old bald headed f*g, bl*w me
you don't know me
you're too old
let go,
its over
no body listens to techno!

Yeah, I know that Eminem is disgusting, but it seemed to be an equally appropriate to Moby racist, misogynistic BS.

[mattdono turns away from computer] Hey honey, bring me another cup of coffee. And make sure you do the dishes before you leave for work. Oh, and make sure that meatloaf is on the table tonight when I get home.
[mattdono turns back to computer]

It's like I was saying, conservatives aren't misogynistic, we just like coffee, clean dishes, and meatloaf. <smirk>

[sausageseller]

"I was outraged," Moby told me. "Everyone knows that Margaret's comedy is very irreverent and Lenny Bruce-style confrontational, and Matt Drudge took it out of context and exposed her to some really irresponsible and vile reactions."

SS.Her act is vile and irresponsible! Moby can't take it when it is put back at her. The little weasel should shut up!

[jaime1959]

"Everyone knows that Margaret's comedy is very irreverent and Lenny Bruce-style confrontational, and Matt Drudge took it out of context and exposed her to some really irresponsible and vile reactions."

Just once I wish these activist/confrontational "artists" would say some outrageous and confrontational things about the prophet Muhammad and his followers. How about a play depicting Muhammad as a homosexual? Or the Wahhabis as a bunch of smelly fanatics with small penises, who want to return the world to the 12th century? Now, THAT would be revolutionary!

[Tijeras_Slim]

The FR reference is a gratuitous smear.

But it does lend class to an otherwise undistinguished e-mail. :)

[Rebelbase]

Jim Robinson and his Attack Team are a disgrace to Conservatives - I spit on you all Post Date: 2004-01-17 17:03:30 by TLBSHOW.

Condolences about your mother. Interesting to see you back. Still want to spit?

[facedown]

...right-leaning FreeRepublic.com,

Right-leaning?

I'd say we do a little more than lean.

[Fresh Wind]

Googled "butch up". LOL

I tried it, and a FR thread popped up!

Butching up for Victory (Dean wins because he is "butch")

[optimistically_conservative]

Gee, what would Moby say if the city had called the "gala" a hate group?

[AmericanInTokyo]

"Cho received dozens of ugly E-mails, most of them unprintable in a family newspaper"

Har! By the LIBERALS' owned perverted, updated sense of definition of what constitutes "FAMILY" in America these days, why every freakin' F word and reference to bodily functions and parts could well be included in a "Family Newspaper".

[EQAndyBuzz]

Margeret "Ho Ho" Cho is probably the most untalented comdienne out there. She brings absolutely nothing to the table.

Drudge got it right.

Oh, and I don't lean right. I am right and proud of it.

[AmericanInTokyo]

Margaret Cho ought to just shut her yapping trap, put on a double-porker XXL-size chima chogori, join a Kisaeng House for Fat Girls in P'yang, service the KPA rank-and-file six days a week, and stay out of American politics or entertainment!

[FFIGHTER]

And Cho's tirade was family friendly? Oh I forgot, we are talking about liberal "nontraditional" families, so the answer is yes, little Johnny's two Mothers would not be upset about the tirade at the "Anti-Bush Gala", for it is not racist or hateful if it comes from the left. (big gag)

[adam_az]

Nearly a decade ago when I was a techno musician who did live performances, I had the opportunity to open for Moby and spent the afternoon with him.

He seemed like a nice guy. We didn't talk about politics, just eclectic old synthesizers. The most memorable part of our meeting though was his body odor. No joke, he had to be one of the smelliest people I've ever met. It was summertime in AZ, and even with the AC on, I had to crack a window in the car to let some air in.

[lormand]

I didn't get to email her. I feel totally left out, kinda like a red-headed step child (my apologies to red-headed step children).

Can someone provide her email address so I can tell her what I think of her political hate-speech?

[.cnI redruM]

Cho needs to share her problems with two women who could help; Miss Manners and Jenny Craig. As for Moby, I'll leave him to Eminem. Moby is talented, but what an idiot. I wouldn't borrow his ideas unless I wanted to go to a Halloween Party as a total maroon.

[adam_az]

Butch up. (verb) To develop a backbone or stiff upper lip; to quit whining and get on with life.

[Hildy]

I know many of you will be disappointed, but before she "became" a lesbian, she dated Quentin Tarrantino for quite a long time, I believe.

[Kozak]

Wait a minute. Those weren't racist emails. He's taking it out of context. Those were humorous emails riffing on Ms Cho's Asian American background and strictly meant as part of a comic dialog. See, no need to get huffy or defensive. It was meant in fun. Just like Ms Chow, I meand Cho's stuff...

[adam_az]

"...and Moby
you can get stomped by Obie,"

I'm pretty sure he's saying "Opie"

[NativeSon]

Drudge shot back: "Those E-mails are mild compared to what I receive on a daily basis. That is the nature of the Internet. Moby and his friends just have to 'butch up.'"

That's a great retort - akin to "don't be such a sissy-f@g, you siisy-f@g".

[AD from SpringBay]

Moby was outraged? Nice. Now about those lyrics? Funny that outrage can only go one way after you make your first million.

Remember boys and girls - if you're not a liberal you're supposed to shut up.

[11x62]

" Cho received dozens of ugly E-mails, most of them unprintable in a family newspaper."

Like her original comments were printable in a family newspaper.

[MamaLucci]

"I know that I have not pulled punches with the way that I beat the s-- out of Dumya,..."

OMG... Margaret Cho is MurryMom!

[adam_az]

11. To: bunnyrabbit (#9)
I think that's true. I think a lot of bannings there are are carried out through FreepMail usually through Howlin. (I notice that the recent bannings there including my own involve Howlin in some way.)

Coral Snake posted on 2004-01-17 20:29:48 ET Reply Trace



HAHAHA good to see the snake in the grass gone. Thanks for the link. What a bunch of loonies.

[N. Theknow]

This:

"Despite all of this stupid bull-- that the Republican National Committee, or whatever the f-- they call them, that they were saying that they're all angry about how two of these ads were comparing Bush to Hitler? I mean, out of thousands of submissions, they find two. They're like f-- looking for Hitler in a haystack. ...George Bush is not Hitler. He would be, if he f-- applied himself."

Then this:

After Drudge's account was linked by the right-leaning FreeRepublic.com, Cho received dozens of ugly E-mails, most of them unprintable in a family newspaper.

Ummm......(shakes head)....the stuff just writes itself.

*sigh*

[adam_az]

Margaret cHo Chi Mihn and Moby

A Twinky Eater... and a Twink.

How appropriate.

[Bloody Sam Roberts]

you can't send her a Freep Mail.

Precisely. Especially because she wouldn't have the guts to sign up here.

[evets]

[leprechaun9]

"Cho received dozens of ugly E-mails, most of them unprintable in a family newspaper."

Hey Moby DICK, what part of her routine would you print in a family newspaper?

[Prodigal Son]

All right. Obviously, not all of us are privy to what's going on here.

I was as shocked as anyone else to see TLBSHOW posting again.

But that has obvious implications.

Now, I don't know how good of an idea it is to be dragging posts from one forum to the next (regardless of whatever anyone might say about it being done in the past).

If we're going to have some sort of confrontation or an 'airing out' of complaints, this shouldn't be done in a backhanded manner.

If people feel like there's something that needs to be discussed, it would be better (in my opinion) if that got done on its own devoted thread rather than drag some other argument onto every thread that comes up with the relevent posters. Maybe it could be moved to the smokey back room and be a no holds barred kind of thing or left on the open forum but this sniping and dragging bones from other places around isn't going to get us anywhere.

I just think- if there's an argument here, let's do that. Let's not beat around the bush.

[finnman69]

"I'm an unfunny gluttonous drunken drug addict with little talent who mocks my own race to eek out a living"

Hmmm, no racist remarks there Moby, just the truth about your racist comedienne comrade...too bad.

I think Eminem said it best:

"And Moby? You can get stomped by Obie
You thirty-six year old baldheaded fag, blow me
You don't know me, you're too old, let go
It's over, nobody listen to techno"