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Gov. Bush seeks to collect evidence in Terri Schiavo case
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Posted on 01/21/2004 11:41:03 AM PST by Dbdaily

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:04:12 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: FL_engineer
What do the people of Pinellas Co. think now about this case? Is there still such heavy support for the Michael R. Schiavo and George J. Felos position?
21 posted on 01/21/2004 7:38:03 PM PST by Theodore R. (When will they ever learn?)
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To: FL_engineer
Thanks for the update.

Bump!

22 posted on 01/21/2004 7:41:58 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (Freedom isn't won by soundbites but by the unyielding determination and sacrifice given in its cause)
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To: lonevoice; Joe Brower; B Knotts; Senormechanico; freekitty; livius; mabelkitty; ...
I've got the show Tivo'ed, and should be able to get it transcribed within a few hours.

MAN did Felos ever LIE some more! The guy is pathological !

Everyone should WRITE to GRETA asap to THANK HER!!!!!! (and last time, many people even got PERSONAL replies from her! )

Ontherecord@foxnews.com -On the Record with Greta - Greta Van Susteren
And also click on her GretaWire.com page tonight to ping her counters there too! Greta is interested in visiting Florida!!!

23 posted on 01/21/2004 8:01:48 PM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: FL_engineer
BTTT! Hoping it gets done!
24 posted on 01/21/2004 8:34:29 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: B Knotts
Excellent questions in that filing! Why indeed, if he "knew" his wife didn't want to be fed if disabled, did he ask for the money to provide long-term care?

That is the BIG question! WHY? Why Michael......why!!!! America wants, and DESERVES a answer!!

25 posted on 01/21/2004 8:53:10 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: FL_engineer
every time I see these pictures, I want to scream " DR. DEATH FELOS..., are YOU BLIND?????" comotose, my foot!!!!
26 posted on 01/21/2004 8:54:41 PM PST by pollywog (Psalm 121;1 I Lift mine eyes to the hills from whence cometh my help.)
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To: pollywog
Felos seemed a bit nervous tonight.
He was up against a very strong debater/lawyer (with God's honest truth on his side)..........and he knew it!
27 posted on 01/21/2004 9:01:33 PM PST by mickie
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To: sport
I would like President Bush to pardon Terri. That would end all this state nonsense.
28 posted on 01/21/2004 9:22:27 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org freeper site)
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To: mickie
Felos was sounding defensive and less confident. He was on screen right before video of Scott Peterson. That's the kind of imagery that works for me. But, imo Felos is an old hand at this sort of thing. Too bad the national media has picked this up again and Terri's defenders, angels, everyone - have had time to build a consensus.
29 posted on 01/21/2004 9:27:24 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org freeper site)
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To: mickie
Too bad, so sad for Felos. His career is in the dumper. I can't imagine who'd go to him for any kind of legal representation except other Michaels.
30 posted on 01/21/2004 9:28:45 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org freeper site)
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To: Dbdaily
Greta again scheduled Terri's story at the TOP of her 2nd half hour (even before Laci and Jacko! Only the Dem primary took precedence).


From FoxNews Channel Jan 21,2004 - On the Record with Greta

[video clip of President Bush answering a question] Yes I believe my brother made the right decision.

Greta: Now to Florida, where Governor Jeb Bush just filed a court pleading in his battle to keep feeding tubes in Terri Schiavo. Governor Bush asked the appeals court for permission to present evidence that Terri Schiavo would WANT to be kept alive.

Schiavo's husband is challenging the constitutionality of the law that allowed Governor Bush to order her feeding tube reinserted, six days after it had been removed in October.

Joining us here in Washington is Governor Bush's lawyer Ken Connor, and in Tampa is George Felos, the lawyer for Terri's husband Michael Schiavo who wants the feeding tube removed.

Greta: George, let's you go first, just because as luck would have it, last time I started on Ken, and when we ran out of time I ended on Ken. So I'm going to go right back to you. First, update on Terri Schiavo's medical condition... has ANYTHING changed?

Felos: No. Terri has been in a persistent vegetative state for 13 years; She has no consciousness. Unfortunately that will NEVER change, and her condition has remained the same.

Greta: Is the sole issue in this current court battle over Terri Schiavo, the constitutionality of Florida statute that says that the Governor has the authority to reinsert the feeding tube, or order it?

Felos: Yes. That's the sole issue. What the court is going to decide is whether the legislature can authorize the Governor in essence, to overturn a court decision, and substitute the Governor's decision, regarding an end of life medical treatment choice for that of the patient. And ummm, that's the narrow issue in this case, and that's why the trial judge said that there are no material facts in dispute and he's ready to rule.

Greta: Alright, Ken...

Connor: Well, that's not really the issue Greta. The issue is what role does the legislature play, and what role does the Governor play, in protecting the lives and health care decisions of people who are unable to protect themselves?

Connor: In this case, we have a profoundly disabled woman, whose husband with a GROSS conflict of interest, is trying to starve her to DEATH. She wasn't afforded the benefit of an independent guardian-ad-litem WHEN the decision was made... and the legislature and the Governor had...

Greta: Which decision? This has lingered in the courts for a long time. What year are we talking about?

Connor: When the decision was made to starve her to death. When the court approved this SCHEME that mister Schiavo has embarked on to starve his wife to death.

Greta: Isn't it filed... According to the plea that the Governor has filed... I guess you filed on behalf of the Governor... you don't represent by the way, Terri Schiavo's parents? Just the Governor?...

Connor: No, I represent Governor Bush, thats it.

Greta: Alright, ...that Governor Bush WANTS to present evidence, and the trial court judge has said No, is that right?

Connor: Yea, What a NOVEL concept that a litigant should offer evidence in support of their position!

Greta: What evidence exactly, does the Governor wish to present to the court?

Connor: Issues that relate DIRECTLY to what Terri's WISHES would be, under the circumstances...

Greta: Right, witnesses?

Connor: Well yes absolutely, witnesses. For example, we know that in the CIVIL case, that mister Schiavo, wherein he claimed MILLIONS of dollars for damages for his wife, NEVER told the jury that his wife wouldn't have wanted to live under these circumstances. He put in evidence, of a LIFE-CARE plan, that would have cost, MANY a...

Greta: Let me get George in to respond, because I've got to try to make this even. George, what's your response to that?

Felos: Sure. Well first of all there's no scheme... These charges against mister Schiavo have been leveled at him for the past six years by the parents. And unfortunately, the Governor has been trying to join in that bandwagon and try to demonize my client. The twenty judges who have looked at this case have all rejected that. And I think its obvious what's going on here. What the Governor doesn't want to talk about is the fact that the legislature gave him unreviewable authority to impose his will on Terri Schiavo. The Governor wants a jury trial in this case, but the fact is, a jury can say, Terri doesn't want to be kept alive artificially.

Greta: Can I get Ken in?

Felos: Yet the Governor has ignored that.

Connor: But point of fact there Greta, is that mister Schiavo and mister Felos are TERRIFIED of trying this case before a JURY. They know that they will NEVER be able to persuade a jury that this was Terri's wishes under these circumstances. The evidence simply will NOT support that.

Connor: NO reasonable jury, no jury of ordinary men and women vested with good common sense would EVER accept this proposition.

Greta: Alright, I've only got 45 seconds left and we're on the hard break, so I've got to hit the hard break. Is there anything short... Either one of you guys have ANY idea short of battling this out in the courts, that would be a GOOD way to resolve it for the family? Because you've got parents, you've got Governors, you've got Terri... Is there ANY way to get in one room and resolve it?

Connor: Sure, I think mister Schiavo, who has ABANDONED his wife in preference for another woman, could consent to have her PARENTS have custody, and take care of her.

Greta: OK, let me quickly get George in here before we run out of time... George?

Felos: Well, demagoguery is not going to solve this. The fact is, mediation was tried... Its best if the families can work this out, but when they can't that's why we have the courts, which are transparent, and they follow the rule of law. We don't have ahh, kings or POTENTATES, or dictators, in our system of government to impose their will on the courts.

Greta: Alright, George I've got to cut you off, because unfortunately this is the break where I have NO latitude. Gentlemen, Thank you. We'll await the court's decision.


[Transcripted for education and discussion purposes only, not guaranteed to be 100% accurate. ]


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Recent interviews/excerpts:
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"Hannity and Colmes" - Tuesday 10-14-03 --> (Terri's father) Bob Schindler: "MONEY and FOUL PLAY"

"On the Record with Greta" - Friday 10-24-03 --> Forensic Pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden: "Potassium imbalance UNLIKELY - HEALTHY heart - NECK TRAUMA"

"At Large with Geraldo Rivera" Sunday 10-26-03 --> author Christopher Darden and Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz: "You have eternity to be dead; You only have a limited amount of time to live"

"Hannity and Colmes" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (father) Bob Schindler and (neurologist) Dr. William Hammesfahr: "She absolutely CAN be rehabilitated -clearly NEVER had heart attack -Emergency room: damaged neck"

"On the Record with Greta" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (attorney) Pat Anderson: "BIG FIGHT -attempted STRANGULATION"

"On the Record with Greta" - Tuesday 10-28-03 --> (attorney) Pat Anderson and (brother) Bobby Schindler: "failing marriage -DIVORCE imminent -Potassium explained":

"Hardball with with Chris Matthews" - Wednesday 10-29-03 --> (pro-Terri attorney for ACLJ) Jay Sekulow and (anti-Terri attorney) Joe Tacopina: "Matthews: I think the human issue here is... her eyes flickering... I think she's ALIVE":

"Larry King Live" - Monday 10-27-03 --> (husband) Michael Schiavo[barf alert]: THEY get money from the right wing ACTIVISTS - "Removing somebody's feeding is very painless. It is a very easy way to die" - [later] King: Would you take one[lie detector test]? - No

"The Abrams Report" - Monday 11-03-03 --> (Commentary) almost entirely pro-husband

"O'Reilly Factor" - Wednesday 11-05-03 --> (former "Vegetative State" patient) Kate Adamson: Being starved to death is EXTREMELY painful "It was SHEER torture!" - took her THREE MONTHS of ACUTE REHAB to snap out
Her website says: We stand behind Terri Schindler!

"The Abrams Report" - Thursday 11-06-03 --> (pro-Terri attorney) Pat Anderson and (pro-death attorney) George Felos: "Felos: Michael is a MODEL husband" - Anderson:"Terri got NO REHAB after $award$":

"On the Record with Greta" - Thursday 11-06-03 --> (Gov.Bush's lead attorney) Ken Connor, and followed by a panel discussion:
"Connor: INDEPENDENTLY investigate the circumstances and allegations...
Alred: Perhaps the PARENTS SHOULD care for her


"Radio Interview" --> (Michael Schiavo's so-called 1st girlfriend after Terri's so-called 'collapse')
MS: "[Terri] upsets my WHOLE LIFE with this, and this is ALL her fault."
GIRLFRIEND: "he can be the most INCREDIBLY MEAN person!"


"CBS News Sunday Morning" - Sunday 11-09-03 -->
( Lead-off feature story for this Sunday morning news magazine )

"Hannity and Colmes" - Monday 11-17-03 --> (Terri's parents) Mary and Bob Schindler:
( "ACQUIRED CEREBRAL PALSY" ... "she's been literally in PRISON for FOUR years" )

"On the Record with Greta" - Friday 01-09-04 --> (Gov.Bush's lead attorney) Ken Connor, and (husband's attorney) George Felos:
Connor: "We'll GO to the Florida Supreme Court, and if the Governor isn't afforded an opportunity to try this case before a JURY, we'll try to go to the U.S. Supreme Court".

"On the Record with Greta" - Wednesday 01-21-04 --> (Gov.Bush's lead attorney) Ken Connor, and (husband's attorney) George Felos:
Connor: "...mister Schiavo and mister Felos are TERRIFIED of trying this case before a JURY. ... NO reasonable jury ... would EVER accept this proposition.".


31 posted on 01/22/2004 12:31:33 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: sweetliberty; EternalVigilance; floriduh voter; tutstar; Canticle_of_Deborah; JulieRNR21; ...
PING to the newest Terri Schiavo transcript here, (Post 31) from Greta's show Wednesday...

"On the Record with Greta" - Wednesday 01-21-04 --> (Gov.Bush's lead attorney) Ken Connor, and (husband's attorney) George Felos:
Connor: "...mister Schiavo and mister Felos are TERRIFIED of trying this case before a JURY. ... NO reasonable jury ... would EVER accept this proposition.

...mister Schiavo, who has ABANDONED his wife in preference for another woman, could consent to have her PARENTS have custody..."
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32 posted on 01/22/2004 12:40:49 AM PST by Future Useless Eater (Freedom_Loving_Engineer)
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To: Lady In Blue; Canticle_of_Deborah; MarMema; kimmie7; floriduh voter; JulieRNR21; NautiNurse; ...
ping
33 posted on 01/22/2004 1:05:45 AM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: FL_engineer
Nice work, the transcript!
34 posted on 01/22/2004 1:36:46 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: FL_engineer
You're a marvel, collecting these as you do. Thank you on behalf of everyone here for your hard work.
35 posted on 01/22/2004 2:05:41 AM PST by phenn (http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: FL_engineer; cyn; sweetliberty
If someone could do the honor of the pinging....

January 24 and 25, 2003
We the People - Overruled
On January 24 and 25, Coral Ridge Ministries will air a comprehensive report on America's runaway judiciary. This hour-long presentation will focus on a number of items, but most notably - on the situation of Terri Schindler-Schiavo and the injustices that have taken place in her case.


An outline of the presentation can be found on:
http://www.coralridge.org/impact/2004_Jan_Pg4.htm

You can find your local listing and internet stream on:
http://www.coralridgehour.org/
36 posted on 01/22/2004 2:25:42 AM PST by tutstar ( <{{---><)
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To: FL_engineer
Thanks for the transcription and ping, FL_engineer!
37 posted on 01/22/2004 4:39:31 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: floriduh voter
I watched the interview last night and they are starting to let the truth be known, however did anyone notice the writing on the bottom of the screen during the interview that said "Terri collapsed after a heart attack". We got to get "them" to stop referring to the collapse as a heart attack. Maybe even if they inserted the word "alleged heart attack" that may be a bit more tolerable.
38 posted on 01/22/2004 5:25:28 AM PST by lilypad
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To: Theodore R.
"What do the people of Pinellas Co. think now about this case?"
I wonder the same thing. I know I have Googled Terri Schiavo extensively and find overwhelming disgust with Michael Schiavo and his actions. People who have taken the time to find out the particulars instantly see the abuse Terri Schiavo has suffered and a severely disabled woman.
39 posted on 01/22/2004 7:00:14 AM PST by a5478 (a5478)
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To: FL_engineer
Connor: NO reasonable jury, no jury of ordinary men and women vested with good common sense would EVER accept this proposition.

Statesments like that by Connor is extremely effective and detrimental to Mikey. I'd say all gloves are off since the courts won't allow a proper and fair trial. Connor would be wise to "try the case" in the media by repeating more statements like above as well as more damning questions.

Great transcription by the way FL_engineer

40 posted on 01/22/2004 7:04:11 AM PST by m4629
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