New Jersey Grants Benefits to Same-Sex Partners

Asbury Park Press ^ | 1-12-04 | AP

[Iron Eagle]

TRENTON (AP) -- New Jersey became the fifth state to recognize same-sex partnerships today, but activists said they will not stop the fight until openly gay couples can legally marry. "This legislation is a matter of fundamental decency," Gov. James E. McGreevey said before signing the law.

[Iron Eagle]

FYI -- Marriage still "against the law."

[LibFreeUSA]

Pretty soon, anyone can just 'shack up' (no marriage), and these stupid government politicians who have been 'elected' will completely destroy the foundation of marriage.

[MHGinTN]

New Jersey, First In Cannibalism, now this. Wonder how NJ taxpayers feel about this sue of their tax dollars?... OH! I forgot, it's New Jersey.

[LibFreeUSA]

-"To obtain domestic-partner status, a couple have to share a residence and show proof of joint financial status or property ownership or designation of the partner as the beneficiary in a retirement plan or will.

I presume that a brother and sister can qualify? How about 2 brothers, 2 sisters? Mother - son? 2 cousins? How about 2 strangers??

[Fun Bob]

I'm not the least bit happy about it. I'm already considering my break from this asylum. I want to do it before it's too late.

[King Black Robe]

At least the people of NJ can vote these suckers out of office and replace them with representatives who care about morality.

When the courts do the legislating, it's locked in forever. This is better than that. This can be fought by the people of NJ if they so choose. If they don't, they'll get what they deserve (or more likely their children will get what their parents deserve).

[Iron Eagle]

Excellent Point King, this was done properly through the legislative process. In fact, I bet the New Jersey Suprems are bummed out that the right case has not yet hit them to overturn the ban on gay marriage. (Though the prohibition against marriage by gays still exists, so who knows.)

[Cindy]

JESUS DEFINES MARRIAGE: "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore, they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." -from THE BIBLE: Matthew 19:4-6

International Healing Foundation

[BushisTheMan]

So their crap about just wanting the same legal privileges that married people are entitled to just doesn't hold water anymore? Let's just make this clear: Gays do not intend to stop until they can call it "marriage."

[MississippiMan]

The Sodomization of America continues.

MM

[joesnuffy]

This legislation is a matter of fundamental decency," Gov. James E. McGreevey said before signing the law.

Decency as defined maybe in Sodom & Gommorah......

[King Black Robe]

Actually, didn't the NJ Supreme Court recently decline to force gay marriage on NJ? Same in Arizona I think. They rightly decided that such a decision was the role of the legislature, not the judicial branch.

Then Mass. stepped up and said it was mandated by their constitutions equal rights amendment or something. The queer activists have 50 states in which to shop, and they finally bought a big one. Mass. can't even amend their constitution quickly enough to override this farce. By the time the legislature complies with the orders of the court, the queer activists will evoke the states rights' argument to lock in the decision. Then it will be on to the SCOTUS via another state -- a friendly one like Vermont -- demanding the full faith and credit clause be honored.

Without the FMA, we lose.

[Old Sarge]

Marriage is loyalty to someone other than The Dear Leader. Loyalty to someone other than The State. Other than The Paryt.

There can be no higher loyalty than The Dear Leader/State/Paryt. Therefore, marriage must be eliminated.

[Old Sarge]

Paryt = party.

Not home schooled.

[nothingnew]

"This legislation is a matter of fundamental decency," Gov. James E. McGreevey said before signing the law.

You don't know the meaning of the word "decency" you disgusting waste of a human being. You and the people you represent in signing this piece of trash are the most dishonest, indecent, and revolting bunch of pantywastes I can imagine.

FMCDH

[xzins]

Everyone in the state sharing an apartment/house/etc. with anyone/thing else, should put in tomorrow for benefits.

[oldironsides]

I have to ask this question. What about McGreevy? Is he married? The rumor mill is full of hints about him.

[spunkets]

"How about 2 strangers??"

If they go halvsies on a six pack, I don't see why not.

[LiteKeeper]

INTREP - SODOMITE AGENDA ALERT!

[glock rocks]

I presume that a brother and sister can qualify? How about 2 brothers, 2 sisters? Mother - son? 2 cousins? How about 2 strangers??

Hmmmmm. My rotti's vet bills are higher than the copays on my kids... I wonder...

[joesnuffy]

Health & Homosexuality

[redfog]

I would like to propose that freepers refrain from using the oxymoron "gay marriage" as that phrase will eventually debase the meaning of the word marriage. I've already seen "gay marriage" and "straight marriage" used in the same sentence more than I'd like.

In place of "gay marriage" I suggest using the word "sodomiage" [pronounced sodom-midge] which more accurately reflects what these unions entail.

Until a child is conceived from anal copulation, it isn't marriage.

[Graymatter]

>>A divorcelike proceeding in Superior Court would be necessary to end a domestic partnership.

Hah! Be careful what you wish for.

Lawyers do look out for their own, don't they? Sure we'll give you arrangements but when you're done with them you'll need legal help to get free.

This should discourage most of them. Gay couples will have to weigh the likelihood of hospital privileges against the likelihood of change of heart, and decide whether the union is worth the legal hassle of dissolving it.

[Bedford Forrest]

"What about McGreevy? Is he married? The rumor mill is full of hints about him."

When Robert the Runt Torricelli was pulled out of his re-election race, it was his little sweetpea, McGreevy, who helped him along. In his swan song speech, Torricelli made some really bizarre statements about his relationship with McGreevy - embarrassing in fact, even considering that they both are precious, small wristed little fellows, from New Jersey and Democrats. Who knows about these creeps - the important question is whether the pubbies can put in a governor in that pathetic state.

[Donna Lee Nardo]

Yeesh, but for what "intent and purposes" is marriage still against the law in NJ? Sounds like all that is taboo any longer is the actual marriage certificate.

[MattinNJ]

Morality aside, look for your health insurance costs to go through the roof-we'll have to pay for their partners AIDS related costs.

[Teacher317]

The Indiana Court of Appeals just heard arguments in a gay-marriage case today. Whatever the outcome, you KNOW it's going to be appealed to the IN Supremes.

(What was weird to me was that the court was filled with rather attractive women, rather than activist-looking males. I didn't get a chance to stereotype at all! Hmph!!)

[glock rocks]

Hmmm. Wonder why Mass and NJ don't recognize my conceal permit, but do recognize my driver and marriage license. Must be a blue state thang.

[Brad's Gramma]

Bumping your post Cindy.

Does slippery slop sound just about right now? I fear for America.

[hattend]

"This legislation is a matter of fundamental decency," Gov. James E. McGreevey said before signing the law.

He said "decency" in the context of homosexuals. How far we've fallen.

[Reactionary]

They don't mind destroying marriage when daddy and mommy can be replaced by the state.

Liberals are Stalinist swine.

[O.C. - Old Cracker]

I'm not the least bit happy about it. I'm already considering my break from this asylum. I want to do it before it's too late.

I'm with you, but short of pushing up daisies how do you get off this prison planet?

[little jeremiah]

Homosexual Agenda Ping - there was an article about this yesterday (?), I'll try to find the link.

This is the beginning of the deluge. Now there's a suit for polygamy, which actually has a lot more history, scripture, tradition and common sense than same sex marriage!

Rick Santorum is proved right, unfortunately.

Anyone wanting on or off this ping list, inform me and it shall be done.

[HostileTerritory]

No, it hasn't gone to the NJ Supremes yet. A lower court ruled against the plaintiffs according to the current law, they appealed, it's all a bunch of preliminaries that everyone goes through before the big show.

[HostileTerritory]

How about 2 strangers??

The sad thing is that the way the states treat marriage today, there is NOTHING stopping two stangers from getting married. It happens in Vegas all the time. ER had a subplot about this last year.

[GOPologist]

There is no way we can stop two persons, regardless of gender, who are going to "shack" up with each other.

On the other hand, we must do all in our legal power to stop "same-sex marriages." WHY? The ONLY reason is spousal HEALTH INSURANCE mainly because it is needed to defray the costs of curing AIDS.

Just think of the increase of the cost of insurance if "same-sex marriage" is allowed.

[Almondjoy]

The only people that will destroy the foundation of marriage are the people who lose faith in it. Just because someone is different doesn't destroy the foundation of marriage. As long as one man and one woman believe in the foundation of marriage it is not destroyed.

The real disgrace is the divorce rate in the country. Millions and millions of men and women piss all over marriage everyday. I don't see anyone crying about that.

[oceanview]

he's married. but what you are thinking is also rumored to be true, in fact its quite well known amongst folks in the area where he was mayor before becoming governor.

[gcruse]

Pretty soon, anyone can just 'shack up' (no marriage), and these stupid government politicians who have been 'elected' will completely destroy the foundation of marriage.

They always have been able to shack up.  And  unless you want to make divorce as difficult as it used to be, with the concommitant abandonment of the home by the father with to legal means of getting child support, maybe the queers and the legislators aren't really the source of the problem.  And  you  seem to be saying the policticians are not really elected.  I take from this you don't  want other people voting on things that affect your life.  I hear that.  I don't like social conservatives being allowed to vote on how others get to live, either.

[My Dog Likes Me]

When the gay lobby realizes that marriage entails monogamy, they'll shriek and run for the woods.
I mean hills. Sorry.

[Cindy]

I understand.

[King Black Robe]

Thanks for the clarification.

[shhrubbery!]

I would like to propose that freepers refrain from using the oxymoron "gay marriage"

I too have tried to beat back the tide. But I'm afraid the oxymoron "gay marriage" is now embedded in the vernacular.

The orwellian/marxist/counterculturists have won on this point, much as they did in framing the abortion debate as merely a matter of "choice," rather than a matter of dismembering babies.

Btw, Jim McGreevey himself is gay; this is apparently well known in NJ political circles, according to Curtis Sliwa of WABC radio.

[Heff]

think of the fraud...how many straight guys that room together, will try to take advantage of this stupid law.

[LurkedLongEnough]

[hunter112]

Just think of the increase of the cost of insurance if "same-sex marriage" is allowed.

Who do you think is paying for AIDS treatment now? Taxpayers, through research programs, and hospitals that get stiffed on bills. They raise their prices to all patients, and who pays that? Insurance companies, primarily.

And if a partner with AIDS dies, how much can the state compel out of the other partner's assets to pay remaining bills? Nothing, except where there is a marital-like responsibility to pay the bills. I get sick, I don't pay, my wife's paycheck could take the hit (I'm self employed). If we just lived together, like gay people have to outside of Vermont, her assets couldn't be touched.

Civil unions are not going to materially cost the healthcare system any more than gays do now.

[little jeremiah]

Just because someone is different doesn't destroy the foundation of marriage.

Just because people who are suffering from Same Sex Attraction Disorder (which can be curable) want to play "marriage" for the STATED (by them) purpose of destroying the meaning of marriage and family...

The story of "gay" marriage isn't about "different" people who just want to "love" each other. It's about destroying the natural family, influence of parents, moral standards, and being able to influence children from the earliest age about the wonderfulness of homosexual life.

These aren't my ideas, it's what the homosexual activists themselves have said.