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Real Cost of Bush's Immigration Plan Staggering
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| Jan 12, 2004,
| CHRISTIAN BOURGE
Posted on 01/12/2004 1:41:35 PM PST by fatso
Real Cost of Bush's Immigration Plan Staggering
The massive cost of President Bush's proposed changes to the nation's immigration system is an important aspect of the debate over recognizing illegal workers that has been largely ignored in the debate over the proposal this week. The U.S. General Accounting Office released findings Thursday that show the federal agency that oversees immigration applications has a massive backlog and is inadequately funded to meet existing, much less increased demand.
Although it is widely known that the Immigration and Naturalization Service long had problems processing immigration applications in a timely manner, when the agency was split up and application processing resources redirected into the Department of Homeland Security's Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services, the problem was supposed to be addressed.
Bush's proposal is aimed squarely at illegal aliens from Mexico working and living in the United States.
It would allow existing illegal workers to apply for a three-year work visa that can be renewed to six years with the possibility to apply for permanent residency status. In addition, foreign workers will be able to apply for visas to take jobs in the United States that would be posted on a government-run database.
The news that the CIS is having significant problems meeting demand is important because it underscores a major problem with Bush's proposed reforms beyond the debate over the efficacy of the plan.
It remains unclear how the massive costs of implementation and monitoring will be paid for as the federal budget deficit promises to reach a record of more than half a trillion dollars in 2004.
In a Jan. 5 letter to the top members of the House and Senate Judiciary Committees, GAO reports that from fiscal 2001 through 2003, the agency's operating costs exceeded the fees collected from applicants by almost $460 million.
The GAO review of immigration application fees and processing was required by law under the Homeland Security Act of 2002.
The audit agency also reports that CIA has not met the goal, set in March 2002, of a 6-month processing time for immigration applications and that the agency has no system to track the status of individual applications as they move through the process.
CIS has not even performed an analysis of the steps needed to reduce processing times.
But most important is the fact that despite a funding increase of $80 million annually starting in 2002, the number of pending applications had increased by 59 percent, or more than more than 2.3 million to around 6.2 million by Sept. 30, 2003, the end of the fiscal year.
In addition, the full costs of the agency's operations cannot be determined because analyses of the costs to process incoming and pending applications as well as administrative and overhead costs have yet to be completed.
Although Bush has proposed that immigration recognition include a fee and a penalty, this makes it impossible to see if those fees will cover the increased costs to the agency.
Some critics contend the program would not result in a massive influx of applications from illegal workers or Mexicans seeking work north of their border, they can already, after all, get jobs here without paying a federal penalty.
But imagine the problems an influx of new applications would create in a system incapable of handling the current flow of applications.
The Congressional Budget Office reported Wednesday that the federal budget deficit reached $126 billion in the first three months of fiscal 2004, placing the deficit on track to top $500 billion this year.
This along with promises made by Bush this week to increase federal spending on education and promises by congressional Republicans for more tax breaks for industry, just how would a new immigration program fit into the mix?
I surely don't know and I doubt the Bush administration's Office of Management and Budget or GOP political Svengali Karl Rove knows either and doubt at this point they really care.
In the end, it probably won't matter because the Bush administration probably doesn't really plan on getting the proposal enacted this year.
Given the controversy surrounding the issue, it is unclear that such legislation could even gain congressional approval.
Although Senate Majority leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., has indicated that he will push for passage of the plan, congressional aides from both parties are privately dismissive of its chances given that it is an election year and the contentiousness a floor debate would engender.
It is estimated that around 60 percent of the 8 million to 12 million illegal immigrants living in the United States come from Mexico, making the issue very important to the Latino electorate.
With the announcement coming as election year politicking goes into full swing, the Bush proposal is clearly an attempt to appeal to this demographic.
They are seen as key to winning several top states like Arizona and Florida, both of which Bush barely won in 2000.
However, there are some risks. Bush's move could alienate some in his conservative base who would be opposed to the idea and keep them home Election Day, but this is not likely if the plan fails to move forward.
Even if the bill fails and does not give the White House the help it clearly hopes for with Hispanics, polls are already showing Bush performing well with Latinos.
In a poll of 500 Hispanics conducted for the Pew Hispanic Center in early January and released Thursday, more than half of the Hispanic respondents said they think Bush is doing a good job with 37 percent indicating they would like to see the president re-elected.
Bush received 35 percent of the Hispanic vote in 2000, compared to 62 percent for the Democratic candidate for president, Vice President Al Gore.
Latinos traditionally skew Democratic in their voting, but only 47 percent of those polled said they would prefer a Democrat win the election. The margin of error in the polls was 4 percent.
The capture of Saddam Hussein is seen as having given Bush a boost among Hispanics.
In polls taken for Pew in early December, less than half of those polled said Bush was doing a good job with a fourth indicating they would vote for in him November.
Whether Bush is successful in creating a new class of legal immigrant workers or not, so far the president seems already on the way to getting the votes he needs among this portion of the electorate.
If Hispanics by his sincerity about implementing immigration reforms he can't pay for without taking budget moves that will likely plunging the country deeper into debt, then he surely will.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; bush; immigration; oas
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posted on
01/12/2004 1:41:35 PM PST
by
fatso
To: fatso
Americans oppose increase in immigration
By Stephen Dinan THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Most Americans adamantly oppose both increasing the amount of legal immigration to the United States and legalizing those immigrants now here illegally, the two key elements in President Bush's immigration overhaul proposal.
On no other foreign policy issue do average Americans disagree more with government and business leaders and other "elites" than on immigration.
"The number of people who want immigration increased is very small," said Steven A. Camarota, research director for the Center for Immigration Studies. "If 55 or 60 percent of the public wants less immigration, a third wants it the same and 7 percent wants it more [Mr. Bush] is going for that 7 percent."
The issue cuts across party lines, but already yesterday opponents in Congress were lining up.
Mr. Bush proposed allowing illegal aliens already in the United States and foreign residents to apply for legal work status here, as long as an employer has certified he would employ the person and no U.S. worker is readily available.
The president also proposed increasing the level of overall legal immigration, and though he didn't specifically guarantee that the guest workers would get legal permanent residence, members of Congress said they expect the two will have to be tied together somehow.
But a Gallup poll from June found only 13 percent of Americans thought immigration should be increased, while 47 percent said it should be reduced and 37 percent said it should be kept at its present level.
Opposition has remained high for several years. A Zogby poll from 2002 found that 58 percent of Americans wanted to reduce immigration, 65 percent disagreed with amnesty and 68 percent felt the United States should deploy military troops to the border to curb illegal immigration.
Meanwhile, 60 percent of Americans believe present immigration levels are a "critical threat to the vital interests of the United States." But when the poll asked the same question of government officials, business leaders and journalists, only 14 percent thought so.
When asked whether immigration levels should be kept the same, increased or reduced, 55 percent of Americans opted for a reduction, while 18 percent of the poll's sample of "elites" thought so, according to an analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies.
Also, proposals that are seen as soft on illegal immigrants have come back to bite politicians before.
Just last year, California Gov. Gray Davis was hurt in his bid to stave off a recall when he signed a bill to let illegal immigrants obtain state driver's licenses. The new governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, pushed a repeal of that provision through the legislature.
An exit poll commissioned by the Federation for American Immigration Reform showed that 30 percent of California voters said they were somewhat or much more likely to vote against Mr. Davis because he signed the law. Only 8 percent of voters were somewhat or much more likely to support him because of it.
"How did Davis get it so wrong?" Mr. Camarota said. "The reason is, he and people like George Bush live in an echo chamber of elites, where the received wisdom on immigration is all the same."
"But once you get out of the Beltway, or leave the offices of the Chamber of Commerce, the number of people in the U.S. who think it's a good idea to give legal status to illegal aliens, or more generally to increase immigration, is very small," Mr. Camarota said.
Still, guest-worker proponents say that if they get a chance to explain their plans, they can win over the public.
"The difference here is some people see this being portrayed by the Pat Buchanans of the world as launching a new wave of immigration, whereas we see it more as acknowledging the wave that has already happened," said Rep. Jeff Flake, Arizona Republican, who is sponsoring one of the leading guest-worker proposals pending in Congress.
His proposal, which he is sponsoring along with two fellow Arizona Republicans Sen. John McCain and Rep. Jim Kolbe would allow an illegal alien to pay a fine and apply for legal work status and after completing two terms, they could apply for permanent legal residence.
Mr. Flake pointed to a poll of Arizona voters that found after Mr. Flake's proposal was explained, it garnered 59 percent support. The poll was conducted by KAET-TV and the Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication at Arizona State University.
And Don Stewart, spokesman for Sen. John Cornyn, the Texas Republican who has his own guest-worker program pending in the Senate, said he expects the public perception to change now that the president has put something specific on the table.
"People have been polling in the abstract, now they're polling on something specific, and the numbers will change accordingly," Mr. Stewart said. Mr. Bush's guest-worker proposal closely tracks the bill Mr. Cornyn is sponsoring in the Senate.
Even proponents like Mr. Kolbe said they don't expect to pass their bill this year.
"It's probably likely we will not see legislative action before 2005," he said.
Rep. Steve King, Iowa Republican and an opponent of the proposals, said sufficient opposition exists among rank-and-file Republicans on key committees that Mr. Bush would have to make a serious effort to convince Congress to act.
"I think it'll take a push from leadership, and it just depends on whether the president can put enough leverage on the speaker and on [House Majority Leader] Tom DeLay," Mr. King said.
Mr. King said whatever happens, he and other Republicans will fight it.
"I can tell you it will be a gloves-off fight all the way through," he said. Mr. DeLay last night said he supports a guest-worker program to grow the economy and enhance security, but said he remains "skeptical that [Mr. Bush´s plan] constitutes sound public policy."
"I applaud President Bush for his leadership and courage in addressing this complex and difficult issue, but I have heartfelt concerns about allowing illegal immigrants into a U.S. guest-worker program because it seems to reward illegal behavior," he said.
http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040107-112928-8976r.htm
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posted on
01/12/2004 1:47:09 PM PST
by
fatso
To: fatso
Bump!
Even more reasons why the amnesty proposal stinks.
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posted on
01/12/2004 1:47:59 PM PST
by
k2blader
(ˇVote Bush, Amexicanos y Amexicanas!)
To: fatso
gov't authorities plan on leveling off the american population at 500,000,000.
what's that tell you?
To: fatso
It may never be enacted---but---you can expect to see a surge in illegal crossings, now that the news has made the Mexican papers.
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posted on
01/12/2004 1:53:36 PM PST
by
Mamzelle
To: no_problema
Immigrants blamed for crime
Ads say increases due to foreigners
Barbara Yost and Daniel González
The Arizona Republic
Jan. 10, 2004 12:00 AM
Ads blaming illegal immigration for higher crime rates began airing this week in the Valley in an effort to sway public opinion before Arizona's Feb. 3 Democratic presidential primary.
Related
Listen to the radio ad, courtesy KFYI Radio
http://www.azcentral.com/news/gifs/radiospot.mp3 Some Hispanic leaders call the ads racist and are considering some kind of counterattack, while conservative groups believe the media spots are needed to decrease immigration and therefore reduce crime and an influx of immigrant labor.
One ad began airing on television and radio stations in the Phoenix market on Monday and will continue through the month. It cites an increase in homicide and home invasion rates and states, "Police say it's caused by illegal immigration."
Edmundo Hidalgo, chief operating officer for Valley-based Chicanos por la Causa, said his organization is discussing waging a campaign to counter the anti-immigration message, though he praised the quality of the ads.
"They're very well done," he said. "I understand why they're running them. This is an election year. The ads will appeal to a certain segment of the community. People will remember the sound bites."
He said he takes issue with the "content and truthfulness" of the message and said Chicanos por la Causa is planning a strategy to tell the other side of the immigration issue.
The Phoenix ad is part of a national media campaign to galvanize public support against any program that would make it easier for immigrants to work in the United States and any form of amnesty for undocumented immigrants already living here, said Roy Beck, a spokesman for the Washington, D.C.-based Coalition United for a Secure America. Beck said the coalition is made up of several national groups that favor reducing immigration and population growth, including Americans for Better Immigration, Federation for Americans for Immigration Reform, Americans for Immigration Control and Pop.Stop.
The ads also began airing the same week President Bush outlined his plans for an overhaul in the nation's immigration system by creating a temporary-worker program that would give undocumented immigrants already here and foreigners the opportunity to apply for temporary work visas.
Although the Bush plan does not include a specific amnesty program, the commercial cites several amnesty programs proposed in the past. In some cities, the ads address other issues. In Iowa, where Democratic caucuses will be held Jan. 19, the campaign challenges the entry of more immigrant workers into the United States.
"In my eyes, it's real tunnel vision on those people's part," said Maricopa County Supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox, whose district includes central and southwest Phoenix. "We have a president bringing immigration out of the dark. . . . I think they're very racist."
Ben Miranda, Democratic state representative from south Phoenix, said the local add "offends me; I would like to see someone step forward and paint the other side." Miranda points out that the hotel, tourist, restaurant and construction industries depend on immigrant labor. Reducing immigration, he said, would "wreck the economy."
Steve Chucri, president and chief executive of the Arizona Restaurant and Hospitality Association, agrees that a decrease in immigrant labor "would have a major impact on the restaurant industry."
"They fill all kinds of jobs," he said.
Rusty Childress, treasurer of Protect Arizona Now, an organization that favors reducing Arizona's appeal to undocumented immigrants, said the ads speak to his sentiments.
"I like the message," he said, insisting that America's borders are no more secure today than they were after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. Although conceding that Mexican nationals have not been tied to terrorism, he said that about 60 countries have been represented in border apprehensions.
Kathy McKee, state director of Protect Arizona Now, said she knew the ads were about to be aired and supports the campaign.
"I'm glad somebody with money has put that into advertising," she said. "I was very pleased. . . . The American public has been asleep while the government was condoning and supporting illegal acts (such as allowing non-citizens to vote and allowing welfare fraud)."
McKee and Childress deny the ads are racist. Said Childress, "It's not about race, it's about crime."
Detective Tony Morales, public information officer for the Phoenix Police Department, said that crime statistics cited in the Phoenix ad are probably accurate: homicides up 45 percent and home invasions up 41 percent.
The ad was produced by Davis and Co. in Washington, D.C., and similar ads soon will appear in at least 10 other cities, said Brantley Davis, executive vice president.
"You're going to be seeing these spots a lot," Davis said. "This is not $5,000 and that's it."
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posted on
01/12/2004 2:05:51 PM PST
by
fatso
To: k2blader; fatso
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posted on
01/12/2004 2:08:08 PM PST
by
The_Eaglet
(Conservative chat on IRC: http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=exact&T=chan&N=33&I=conservative)
To: fatso
Let's not talk big numbers, let's talk small numbers. The cost of public education for a child in California is $7,000, the highest in the nation. If an illegal alien has just three children (I'll use a conservative number) in public schools, there's $21,000 right off the bat. Now what is the liklihood that that illegal alien pays $21,000 in taxes in return for the benefit?
We are getting killed over here in California as a result of these policies.
To: fatso
"The U.S. General Accounting Office released findings Thursday that show the federal agency that oversees immigration applications has a massive backlog and is inadequately funded to meet existing, much less increased demand."How does this help the WAR on Terror?
How will giving the limited resouces of the INS ( ICE) even more to do make my nation safer?
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posted on
01/12/2004 2:11:39 PM PST
by
Kay Soze
(“The Bush immigration plan is heavily dependent on enforcement agencies we don't have”- WFBuckley)
To: truthkeeper
Does this make any sense? All these added costs to lower the price of a head of lettuce!
To: leprechaun9
Personally, I'd give up lettuce forever in exchange for a massive tightening of our borders.
To: truthkeeper
Now what is the liklihood that that illegal alien pays $21,000 in taxes in return for the benefit? What is the liklihood that that he will pay anything at all? In fact, he will probably get an EITC payment for being here.
Are you aware that you can list dependents who are living in Mexico as dependents on your federal tax return?
Oh yeah! They're gonna pay taxes allright! In your dreams!
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posted on
01/12/2004 2:27:59 PM PST
by
navyblue
To: truthkeeper
As it stands now, illegal aliens can only see their families if they sneak them into the United States with them or after them. If they are here as a guest worker under Bush's plan, aren't they allowed to travel back and forth freely to Mexico? Much less incentive to bring families here and that is presuming they would receive permission anyways.
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posted on
01/12/2004 2:31:18 PM PST
by
Tamzee
(EARTH FIRST!!! We'll stripmine the other planets later...)
To: Tamsey
If they are here as a guest worker under Bush's plan, aren't they allowed to travel back and forth freely to Mexico? I don't know.
To: truthkeeper
I checked it out and the guest worker status lets them go back and forth freely to Mexico....
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posted on
01/12/2004 2:57:57 PM PST
by
Tamzee
(EARTH FIRST!!! We'll stripmine the other planets later...)
To: fatso
Howard Kaloogian said he's the only major GOP candidate for US Senate in California's March primary who doesn't support President Bush's immigration proposal (although I know he supports Bush's tax cuts, defense, and stuff like that).
I haven't heard from the other major candidates (Jones, Marin, Casey) about the "not an amnesty" amnesty. Jones supported Prop 187 ten years ago, but I don't know where he stands on the new Save our State initiative that's circulating. He's the only other candidate I've heard on the radio. Marin is from Mexico, and rumors are that she's soft on illegal immigration, although I've never read anything for sure. Casey is a former Democrat.
Gov. Schwarzenegger is on air with Roger at 4PM (AM-600 in So Cal).
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posted on
01/12/2004 3:35:43 PM PST
by
heleny
(No on propositions 55, 56, 57, 58)
To: Tamsey
As it stands now, illegal aliens can only see their families if they sneak them into the United States with them or after them. Not all illegal aliens sneak into the US. They are illegal because of their unapproved presence. It's easier for them to enter (and re-enter) legally on nonimmigrant short-term visas, such as tourist visas, and then simply overstay their visas. The US does not check who leaves the country.
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posted on
01/12/2004 3:39:53 PM PST
by
heleny
(No on propositions 55, 56, 57, 58)
To: HiJinx; janetgreen; FITZ; gubamyster; SandRat; WRhine; joesnuffy; B4Ranch; moehoward; ...
Ping.
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posted on
01/12/2004 3:47:26 PM PST
by
Missouri
To: truthkeeper
The cost of public education for a child in California is $7,000, the highest in the nation. Not quite. According to the Pacific Research Institute, total spending for k-12 education in California is over $11,000 per child.
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posted on
01/12/2004 5:01:54 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(And the Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.)
To: fatso
W just through that idea out there to thwart the libs during an election year... now the libs have to speak out against the grain regarding immigration
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01/12/2004 5:05:11 PM PST
by
InvisibleChurch
(FreeperSonal ad : What is the best stamp collecting site?)
To: fatso
Already the IMF is advising nations not to loan money to the USofA. Between the cost of Home Land insecurity, the cost of illegals, the Farm Bill, the Education Bill, the Medicare Bill, 34 billion in SS to Mexico, 10 to 14 billion to Africa it would seem they think we are going in the toilett.
To: fatso
La Raza -Chicano Activism in California
The Social Contract (Summer 1999)
by Diana Hull
The coming numerical dominance of California's burgeoning Latino population was confirmed by the Census Bureau in July 1997. In 49 years, only 13.8 percent of Los Angeles County will be white and 69.1 percent will be Latino a consequence of two amnesties for three million illegal aliens, sieve-like borders, and the high levels of legal immigration that have made Los Angeles the second largest Mexican city in the world.
Latinos indicates Central and South Americans; the word Hispanic is generic. Radical leftists of the 1960s gave Chicano a new defiant meaning and proclaimed Mexican-Americans heirs to Aztlan. the mythical homeland of the Aztec people.
The predicted demographic shift from minority to majority status is a triumph for Chicano activism and brings vast new political opportunities for its leadership. But the literal retaking of California pales in comparison to its symbolic value the long-awaited return of those illegally annexed territories which the Chicano movement claims were stolen from their indigenous forebears in 1848, by the occupying forces of the United States, after the Treaty of Guadelupe-Hidalgo.
The passage of California's Proposition 187 was the first major obstacle in the path of this reconquista movement, and in response, after the election, 400 Latino leaders held a summit conference at the University of California at Riverside. The participants were Hispanic elected officials and the Hispanic press, university faculty and students from Texas and Arizona as well as California, and the leadership of the major Hispanic organizations.
At the opening session, the campus director of the Ernesto Galarza Public Policy Institute announced the good news about the browning of America and the transfer of power to the new California Latino majority.
The uniformed Brown Berets of Aztlan stood shoulder to shoulder along the walls of the meeting room; Mexican flags were flying and student tee shirts bore the message, We don't need no stinking green cards. Benicio Silva of UC Berkeley declared that having to show them at the border was a violation of our human rights because Aztlan is ours and the white man is the invader.
They say we're 'Latinizing' Los Angeles! Don't you love it? boomed fiery orator Jose Angel Gutierrez, long-time University of Texas faculty member. We are fighting to build a new Mestizo nation, he shouted, in this, our historic homeland for for-ty thou-sand years.
At that, the Brown Berets raised their fists in the air and the excited crowd screamed Chicano Power and began stomping and clapping with the familiar two-three beat: clap-clap, clap-clap-clap. We are here again, Gutierrez continued, we are millions and millions, and the aging white Americans are not making babies, we've got to get ready to govern!
Adaljisa Sosa-Riddell, of the Chicano Research Center at the University, of California at Davis, said the best preparation for governance was training the youth, and demanded more Chicano Studies programs because, according to Gloria Romero, Professor of Chicano Studies at Loyola Marymount University, a classroom is just another place to organize.
The members of MEChA (Movimiento Estudiantil Chicanos de Aztlan) student group, that sponsored the Riverside Conference, were products of this curriculum, by which young Chicanos learn they are victims of genocide and ethnocide and belong to an oppressed people, stripped of their land, language and culture.
Art Torres, state chair of the California Democratic Committee, assured the audience that the much-hated Proposition 187, limiting government benefits to illegal aliens, was the last gasp of white America, and Herman Baca, founder of the Committee on Chicano Rights, said that we are going to win and take our rightful place as owners of this land.
The land he was talking about includes California, the Southwest, and the western United States as far north as Oregon and Washington all of it claimed by the make-believe state of Aztlan whose reclaiming serves as a rallying cry for the irredentist movement, and a justification for the continuing northward migration and the illegitimacy of the U.S. border with Mexico.
The stolen lands theme is a favored tool of insurgency. It politicizes Palestinian boys of the Hezbollah and Hamas and it is meant to incite, in Hispanic youth, the same resentment and desire for vengeance.
Most Americans do not understand the character and reach of the Chicano movement, and Chicano activists want it that way, because the leadership model for their street fighter troops is the use of threatening hyperbole and anti-white hate talk.
Having an enemy promotes in-group loyalty, which must be maintained to counter the attractions of American society. Young people are particularly vulnerable to defection and the future of the movement depends on their ties to La Raza.
The major Hispanic organizations, like MALDEF (Mexican American Legal Defense and Education Fund), LULAC (League of United Latin American Citizens) and the National Council of la Raza, are understandably protective of their influence in the highest government circles. Because of the prestige and sponsorship of the Ford Foundation, their leaders sit on the boards of major non-profit organizations and private corporations and serve on federal boards and commissions. Therefore security is tight when they reveal their racist face at a militant meeting like the one at UC Riverside.
In December 1996, another MEChA-sponsored conference, at Cal State Northridge, began with the shouts of Chi-ca-no then Chi-ca-ha each word belted out, first from the podium, then from the audience. Emotions were high by the time Professor Rudy Acuña, author of Occupied America, got up to speak. He warned hundreds of students and their immigrant parents about being taken to the intellectual ovens, and told them they live in the Nazi United States of America.
When parents are not around his language gets rougher. He explained at a student meeting in Santa Barbara that the University of California is not going to change unless we beat the shit out of them, and that is what we are going to do. (In 1996 Professor Acuña won a discrimination lawsuit against the university and received $326,000.)
Acuña is a tenured full professor at Cal State Northridge and author of Occupied America, the third best-selling text in Harper and Row's college division. He has spent the past 22 years building the largest Chicano Studies department in the nation, and claims Immigration advocacy organizations have so penetrated the nucleus of government that the government itself is now an immigration advocacy organization.that one third of the academic deans in the California system have come out of his program. Professor Acuña likes to compare U.S. treatment of Hispanics to Hitler's treatment of the Jews.
Attempts like this by radical Hispanics to hijack the holocaust finally caused Senator Alan Simpson to lose his temper at a Senate immigration hearing. When Simpson's proposed employee verification system was likened by the ethnic lobby to bar code tattoos and the tactics of Adolph Hitler, he was irate. These rhetorical excesses are disgusting and offensive, he said, and I'm sick of this racist demagoguery!
What Senator Simpson angrily called bullying tactics is part of a machismo bad boy act the trademark of Chicano political theater. During one of Professor Acuña's typical speeches, a white photographer was removed from the room by security guards, who tried to confiscate his camera and film. When he refused, they encircled him, pounding clenched fists into curled left palms and asked him repeatedly, Are you afraid yet?
Critics of the Chicano movement have reason to be afraid, because how do they know if the physical threats are just bluster, or if they're for real? Rudy Acuña warns that Chicano youth bring the possibility of violence to the Chicano movement, and the Brown Berets tell gringos that the streets will run red with the blood of tyrants, who have murdered us for so long.
You would think this kind of talk would embarrass someone like LULAC's national president, Belen B. Robles, a listed participant at the UC Riverside conference. But evidently she has no shame. At one congressional hearing she pushed for admission of unskilled immigrants because they contribute to our country's cultural development.
In her many roles, Robles epitomizes the reach of Hispanic ethno-nationalism and how it links mass immigration advocates in tile giant non-profits, like LULAC, to elected officials, government bureaucracies, international corporations and the Mexican government.
Robles is on the board of HACR (Hispanic Association for Corporate Responsibility), an invitation only group where Hispanic leaders sell population growth as a market benefit to international companies like Coca Cola. McDonald's and Coors.
Because of her influential connections it is unlikely she will ever go back to her federal job as a supervisor in the U.S. Customs Service. Robles has been on an extended paid leave tor years, thanks to the 1970 Intergovernmental Personnel Act whereby a federal agency can lend an employee to a nonprofit organization.
Her $60,000 federal salary probably doesn't cover travel expenses from her home in E1 Paso to all the meetings she attends. She is national chair of the advisory committee to the INS commissioner. She is on the panel for the INS/US Border Patrol merger and an advisor to cabinet meetings on Mexican American affairs.
Immigration advocacy organizations have so penetrated the nucleus of government that the government itself is now an immigration advocacy organization. Robles is just one biomarker of this altered identity. Another is Norma V. Cantu, former regional counsel for MALDEF before her appointment as the U.S. Assistant Secretary for Civil Rights.
In the Executive Branch there is Mickey Ibarra, a leader of the Latino Vote 2000 Alliance. Its other key members are MALDEF's president and general counsel, Antonia Hernandez, and Belen Robles. Ibarra is currently White House Director for Intergovernmental Affairs.
In its quest for the ultimate good, the Ford Foundation became the leading protagonist in an effort to open up the United States to mass Third World immigration. Tapping its $7 billion endowment, Ford created MALDEF, LULAC, and the National Council of La Raza, as well as taking over the financing of the ACLU. All are now non-profits in their own right and remain client beneficiaries of the Ford Foundation, so To militant Chicanos there is no need for borders, green cards or proof of citizenship.long as they heed the command to be fruitful and multiply.
Now thousands of organizations all over the country speak with one voice and have identical goals. They want cultural hegemony for Hispanics and their political dominance through numerical superiority; continued mass immigration; another amnesty for illegals; complete social, medical and educational services for immigrants, legal or illegal; no barriers at the borders; Spanish language parity with English; voting rights for all U.S. residents, legal or not; and easy access to U.S. citizenship.
Virtually all of these demands are supported by the Clinton administration and promoted by the Mexican government. Gaston Rosas, administrative officer of the Consulado de Mexico in Los Angeles, and his staff, participate in strategy sessions with the 125-member Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights (CHIRLA). The consulate is listed as a sponsor of CHIRLA along with MALDEF and the ACLU. Despite their diplomatic mission, consulate officials have set up a data base on Mexican nationals in the United States and keep it in a computer in the offices of CHIRLA on permanent loan.
Several years ago in Dallas, with Bill Clinton at his side, Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo advised Mexican-American elected officials that they were Mexicans who lived north of the border. Addressing the National Council of La Raza last year in Chicago. President Zedillo told Mexican workers you are part of our nation.
The 1996 LULAC national convention repeated this theme in its program: A Mexican living in the United States, it said, is and always shall be a Mexican. And guest speaker Ambassador Jesus Silver-Herzog warned that neither military units nor walls at the border could stem the immigrant flow.
U.S. legislation that attempted to do that in the form of accelerated deportation stirred what was called a firestorm in Mexico City (Los Angeles Times, April 3, 1997) and all four of Mexico's political parties declared it a violation of immigrants' rights that they would fight through the United Nations.
They needn't have been so concerned. Belen Robles announced at the LULAC convention in Anaheim that she had just met with President Clinton the previous Monday and, as a result, LULAC attorney Ray Velarde would be part of the committee revising the new immigration reform law.
Why would the president entrust such a mission to LULAC, considering their immediate past history of crime and corruption? Why the instant forgiveness? In 1995, Jose Velez, who preceded Robles as LULAC's national president, was convicted in E1 Paso of embezzling $9 million by forging thousands of fraudulent citizenship documents.
But to militant Chicanos there is no need for borders, green cards or proof of citizenship. The U.S. and Mexico apparently agree because their bi-national plans are making Aztlan into a destination that will soon be reachable by bullet train. The Mexican government has changed its constitution to allow dual citizenship, so the mythical state will become tangible and citizenship fungible Mexicans remaining Mexicans while enjoying unlimited access to the infrastructure and resources of the United States.
Of the 17 million people of Mexican descent in the U.S., millions are U.S. citizens. Those born in Mexico, or having Mexican parents, are expected to besiege the 41 consulates, once this program goes into effect.
On July 14, 1997, Monica Lozano, editor of the Spanish-language newspaper La Opinion, explained to the Southern California public television audience that we will see Mexican candidates for office in Mexico campaigning actively in California. Polling places will be opened here, she said, so that any citizen of Mexico working in the United States, can vote in Mexico's elections.
Simultaneous with the changes that will allow Mexicans living abroad to keep their nationality, Jose Angel Pescador Asuna, the Mexican Consul General in Los Angeles, advised Mexicans who were not U.S. citizens to become citizens, so thev could vote in the United States to defend the interests of Mexico. To
many parts of California and the Southwest are already de facto Mexican territory where the combination of demographics and ethnic politics pull against assimilation in the future.bring this about as quickly as possible, he pledged to work with the citizenship efforts of nongovernmental organizations like LULAC, MALDEF and CHIRLA.
So, in this new hybrid polity, the Mexican government will conduct Mexican government business with millions of' its own citizens within our borders borders that the U.S. has deliberately blurred for years by crippling the INS, by approving NAFTA, and with a variety of federal initiatives like the joint training of police, and the U.S. Department of Education's La Frontera program to promote U.S.-Mexican integration.
The border region is spreading, and many parts of California and the Southwest are already de facto Mexican territory where the combination of demographics and ethnic politics pull against assimilation in the future. Now the rumble of the coming dominance and struggle is getting louder from the leaders of the coming Hispanic majority.
How beautiful the new world will be former HUD Secretary' Henry Cisneros opined three years ago, in Spanish, at a Southwest Voters Registration and Education meeting, when we have a governor named Gonzalez or Hernandez or Martinez, and when the mayors of Los Angeles, San Francisco and San Diego all have Spanish names.
Congressman Eshaban Torres set his sights higher when he told a meeting of the Latino Vote USA Campaign 96 that we will decide the ballot issues and elect the next U.S. president.
While we are used to calls for loyaly to party or platform, we have not heard in our lifetime such open pandering to loyalty based on race, except from the Ku Klux Klan or the likes of Louis Farrakan. This hard core racial nationalism does not bode well for even a relatively harmonious, let alone an enduring, multi-ethnic nation. And it is hardly an illustration of multiculturalism's progress toward what sociologist Nathan Glazer called, co-equal existence and voluntary power-sharing.
But multiculturalism may be irrelevant anyway, because it is not the direction in which we are headed. In California and parts of Texas, little American culture remains. Multiculturalism was just a transitional stage before Hispanics reached a critical mass and replaced the existing social hierarchy with one of their own.
Add to that the cultural imperatives of Koreans, Blacks, whites, mainland Chinese and other Asians, Africans and Middle-Easterners all likely to import their historical antagonisms along with their charm and interesting food. Shall we assume that, absent assimilation, they will go along with the happiness in diversity script, for which there has never been even one successful plain clothes rehearsal in all of history?
The must-be-inclusive crowd in Los Angeles has come up with some new catchy lines to cover their recent anxiety. They now praise the excitement in the cacophony and hostility, and the fun of not knowing the results of the endgame. What will an Irish-Mexican-Chinese-Iraqi look like, they ask breathlessly, and who will they be? As they applaud changes at our core, they claim confidence in American humor and stability to defeat Lebanese politics and carry us through as in having your cake and eating it too.
Resistance to the northward press of Hispanics at our southern borders was thwarted by mischaracterizing it as immigration. By the mid-1980s it had actually become an unregulated self-selection process, with no enforceable right of refusal on our part. Increasingly, this movement of people shared only surface similarities to the traditional immigration template, while conveniently keeping immigration's halo effect.
Governor Pete Wilson recognized this new hybrid when he filed a $2.4 billion lawsuit against the federal government, accusing them, among other things, of violating their constitutional duty, to protect California from invasion. As a result, MEChA flyers showed Wilson's face covered with a black swastika, and Chicano activist Dolores Huerta thanked the great spirit for taking away the governor's voice.
Chicano activists are not the only ones pleased that the culture of the United States has melted south of Malibu and is dissolving in New York and in Chicago. Michael Clough, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, and co-chair of the New American Global Dialogue, is cheered by the changes wrought by immigration and economic globalization.
He wrote in the Los Angeles Times last year that national unity is being eroded from above and below and that the idea of one America is gone. He apparently approves. He predicts that the country will be divided into sectors with different economic interests and even a quasi-independent foreign policy.
But the interests that converged to deconstruct the nation have used each other badly in this marriage of convenience, and they have divergent blueprints for the future. Calculations made by global marketeers fail to factor in the force of tribal rage, or predict the future battles for ascendency. They haven't thought about the coming fury at the losses, like American identity, the meaning of our heroes and the motherland and tongue the love of home.
Our country never was the globalist's to gamble with nor a gift for Washington to give away. And to whom will all the good accrue from this dismembering? But it is past undoing now and time has run out at least for California.
So say your fond farewells! Mecha means fuse, and it is lit.
NOTES
1 La Raza, the race, is a political construct masquerading as an authentic subgroup based on physical similarities and a common culture. Chicano activists identify themselves as bronze people of color to justify their separatist goals, but Hispanics come from widely different cultures and could be white, black or brown. The Chicano political movement in the United States was created by Mexican-Americans or Mexican immigrants. In the last decade, they have been joined by immigrants from Central America. Yet, everyone with a Hispanic surname is considered by them to be part of La Raza.
2 The author is indebted to the California Coalition for Immigration Reform (CCIR) for its research of the opposition. Many of the quotes in this article are memorialized on tape and were obtained bv CCIR at some risk to the individuals involved.
Diana Hull, Ph.D., is a behavioral scientist trained in demography and epidemiology. Co-founder and co-chair of the Santa Barbara County (CA) Immigration Reform Coalition, she is a frequent contributor to The Social Contract.
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posted on
01/12/2004 5:24:22 PM PST
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
To: Carry_Okie
That's interesting. I've heard $7,000 for quite some time. Today I heard a radio report on Arnold's cuts, and they said the figure would be cut slightly to about $6,800 (or something like that). I wonder why the stats are so different?
Anyway, yours prove the point just as well.
To: truthkeeper
I wonder why the stats are so different? Easy, they lie in order to get you to spend more by omitting federal, lottery, and several special program funds.
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posted on
01/12/2004 6:58:59 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(And the Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.)
To: Carry_Okie
Excellent point.
To: Missouri
I guess this stupid plan is only for Mexicans. Have the illegal aliens from every other country in the world started to demand equal rights yet? They will.
26
posted on
01/12/2004 9:23:16 PM PST
by
janetgreen
(TANCREDO FOR PRESIDENT)
To: janetgreen
It seems like one big welfare program for Mexico.
27
posted on
01/12/2004 9:24:24 PM PST
by
Missouri
To: fatso
One step closer to a much needed revolution.
The USA is turning into a socialistic monopoly run by elitists and social idealists. Sooner than you think, taxes will reach 60% of gross income if not higher to support these programs. We've already lost the country, it's just a matter of time before the good people find out. I just hope there's enough of us left to do what needs to be done, and our options for achieving change are diminishing.
What are we to do when the government long ago stopped acting in the best interests of the country and it's citizens? What are we to do now that property taxes have cancelled out the constitution and private ownership has become nothing more than an option to rent? What are we to do when government ceases to follow the laws and strict guidlines set for it? We are all frogs in a pot of water that has gotten pretty hot.
Soon our options will be limited, and the free people of America will be a cornered tiger. Will you act?
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posted on
01/12/2004 10:03:33 PM PST
by
CBF
('' .... behind every blade of grass.'')
To: leprechaun9
Does this make any sense? All these added costs to lower the price of a head of lettuce!Some people actually buy into this BS.
29
posted on
01/12/2004 10:16:18 PM PST
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: janetgreen
I guess this stupid plan is only for Mexicans. Have the illegal aliens from every other country in the world started to demand equal rights yet? They will.What chaos.
30
posted on
01/12/2004 10:20:29 PM PST
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: Joe Hadenuf
The Bush plan is an Rx for national suicide, with probably a civil war tossed in along the way.
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posted on
01/12/2004 10:20:41 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: philetus; archy
#22: WOW! I need to contact the author for assistance with my new novel "Domestic Enemies." There it all is, in one paper!
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posted on
01/12/2004 10:32:49 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: Travis McGee
Think she's still alive?
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posted on
01/12/2004 10:44:55 PM PST
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
To: philetus
I presume so. The Aztlaners are not at the shooting phase of their takeover...yet. Her post should be it's own thread, it's that important. I saved it all over the place, it'll be a great resource for my in fleshing out some of the current politics of the reconquista in my novel.
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posted on
01/12/2004 10:51:19 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: Travis McGee
I'll repost it in it's own thread.
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posted on
01/12/2004 10:55:45 PM PST
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
To: CBF
Soon our options will be limited, and the free people of America will be a cornered tiger. Will you act?
Start by being an "Immigration Watchdog" - Click right here for some details!
Also to help you as an Immigration Watchdog, why not make it a point to report one illegal alien each day for the next month!
Click here for how and where to report an illeagal. Maybe this should be the ultimate Freepathon - Each Freeper reporting and turning in an illegal alien each day for a month! Might be like flushing a toilet.
Good Luck.
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posted on
01/12/2004 10:59:26 PM PST
by
B-Cause
To: philetus; archy
Please ping myself, archy and the usual suspects.
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posted on
01/12/2004 11:01:37 PM PST
by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: fatso
George Bush got my vote in 2000, but he will not get my vote in 2004. Since he likes slave labor, loves his campaign money more than the American people and doesn't care for the First Amendment, he will not get my vote again.
I think Bush is a one term President.
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posted on
01/12/2004 11:04:50 PM PST
by
2nd_Amendment_Defender
("It is when people forget God that tyrants forge their chains." -- Patrick Henry)
To: 2nd_Amendment_Defender
George Bush got my vote in 2000, but he will not get my vote in 2004. Since he likes slave labor, loves his campaign money more than the American people and doesn't care for the First Amendment, he will not get my vote again.Ditto.
The mere suggestion of this "plan" is contemptible. As I've said before, I refuse to be an accomplice to this "plan".
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posted on
01/12/2004 11:21:48 PM PST
by
Joe Hadenuf
(I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
To: Missouri
Mexicos relationship with America has its ups and downs. Their people come up here and our jobs go down there.
40
posted on
01/13/2004 3:36:59 AM PST
by
SandRat
(Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
To: B-Cause
Thanks for the link.
W should be pushing a plan to employ 100,000 of the currently unemployed US workers as 'bounty hunters' of illegals. Pay them just a bit more than if they were collecting unemployment, with a bonus for every illegal they found (let the pros actually bring them in, to avoid injury).
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posted on
01/13/2004 4:02:13 AM PST
by
Ed_in_NJ
To: CBF
The USA is turning into a socialistic monopoly run by elitists and social idealists. The USA already is a socialistic monopoly run by elitists and social, well, I wouldn't call them "social idealists." I think their "idealism," their purported concern for the poor and the oppressed is merely an excuse to take and maintain power. Do you think that Bill and Hill really care about anyone other than themselves?
One step closer to a much needed revolution.
Things are so bad I think that will have to happen.
To: Missouri; Pro-Bush; FairOpinion; FoxFang; Nea Wood; Joe Hadenuf; sangoo; appalachian_dweller; ...
BumPing!
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posted on
01/13/2004 6:22:46 AM PST
by
JustPiper
(Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
To: fatso
Real Cost of Bush's Immigration Plan Staggering Well when it comes to rewarding lawbreakers: where there's a will there's a way. Besides, got to do it now while there's still a middle class around to pay for it.
To: majhenrywest
Ping
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posted on
01/13/2004 7:19:07 AM PST
by
Travis McGee
(www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
To: philetus
At that, the Brown Berets raised their fists in the air and the excited crowd screamed Chicano Power and began stomping and clapping with the familiar two-three beat: clap-clap, clap-clap-clap. Just the reverse of the French OAS *Al-ger-ia Fran-caise* three-two signal beat of the Algerian revolutionary period. I guess somebody has a DVD copy of THe Battle of Algeirs
I can't wait for the Lizards to show up.
-archy-/-

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posted on
01/13/2004 7:52:53 AM PST
by
archy
(Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
To: fatso
thx.
i've heard this ad many x.
my point is that the u.s. government apparently has other plans for us, as the projection of leveling off the population at 500,000,000 would indicate. it doesn't seem to matter which party is in power.
what will be left of the country after another 210,000,000 arrive? i heard recently that we'll mark 300,000,000 in the next 4 years. the current population is 291,000,000.
To: Missouri
"It seems like one big welfare program for Mexico." We've had the Hispanics in Puerto Rico on a "big welfare program" for 100 years, now.
The Hispanics in Mexico just figure we owe them a living, too.
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posted on
01/14/2004 6:36:17 AM PST
by
4Freedom
(America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
To: 4Freedom
"It seems like one big welfare program for Mexico."I also think that this "matching employers with employees" scheme sounds a little bit like Nixon's "wage and price controls" of the 1970's.
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posted on
01/14/2004 8:24:28 PM PST
by
Missouri
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