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[djf]

3 degrees below zero in Boston last night, coldest ever since 1875.

Thirty four degrees below zero in Saranac Lake (near Albany) New York.

[sauropod]

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[neverdem]

Just heard on the news that Tony Blair is imploring Bush to act on global warming. Agitprop.

[coloradan]

Bump

[11B3]

Bookmarked. Thanks for posting this - every single bit of ammunition to use on the enviros is appreciated. They certainly don't stand up well to truthful science.

[Robert A. Cook, PE]

There are FOUR edges to the "global warming" scam that the enviro's and international socialists are using (1) to attack Bush (in general), the US (in particular) and capitalism (in general).

First: Is the climate warming? Answer: Maybe. Some data says, some is inconclusive. Previous data from the 70's would have indicated we faced a cooling crisis!

Second: What is causing that warming?

We don't know for sure. Previous cycles could NOT have been caused by man, and current CO2 levels DON'T support the warming that (might have) happened already, so we don't know.

Third: Is the US's part of these CO2/freon/methane gasses causing the increase - if the increase is occurring at all? Answer: We don't know, since we don't know if they are the cause. Further, just because some of the gasses are admittedly from the US-econmy, that's only a small part of the total gasses.

Four: Is the US- economy part of these discharges, if controlled by the anti-capitalist Kyoto treaty, going to make a difference in global warming?

And, what EVERYBODY who is using the global-warming excuse ignores - is "If a small rise in fuel and gas cripples the economy, what is the EXREME limit in economic output mandated by our competitors going to do to the economy?

[LiteKeeper]

INTREP - JUNK SCIENCE ALERT

[Egon]

I'm not sure I understand the problem.

The global warming people have a WAY inflated estimation of the effect we humans can have on a global level. If they're correct, it should be very easy to come up with an imaginative solution.

I propose the following:

The entire country of Britain can plan a chili cook-off for the middle of summer....at noon. At a pre-arranged signal, everyone can aim their collective asses at the sun... and fart!

The resulting shift in the earth's orbit around the sun should offset the effects of global warming nicely. Additionally, thousands of bean farmers will instantly see black ink on their budgets.

[DaGman]

"...carbon dioxide, supposedly the culprit, makes up such a tiny fraction of the atmosphere that even if it were to quadruple, the effect on climate would be negligible;..."

Why does Ms. Phillips have to say this? CO₂ makes up 21% of the atmosphere, hardly "a tiny fraction".

[Beck_isright]

Kyoto is nothing more than the 3rd wave's way of introducing the PC version of socialism into the world. THANK GOD the Russians and US have held the line thus far.

[Citizen Tom Paine]

As I sit here looking at a thermometer reading -7.4 degrees Farenheit at 2130, I say lets have some climatic warming in upper NY state.

Naturally, the weather varies it always has and it will continue to do so.

[Coleus]

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[dirtydanusa]

It.s 4.6 degrees here in CT.and reached a whopping 15 degrees today, please send some of this warming my way.

[greasepaint]

The Europeans chose the rules, numbers, and baseline year
to help them and their friends, with the intention of
appearing to be fair, at the same time as causing
massive problems for the US.
Ex1. Baseline year 1990 was chosen by the EUians so that
, with the inclusion of East-Europe in the EU, the
baseline of old-Soviet-style industry, that later went
out of business, would be included in their quota baseline.
Ex2. EUians helped Australia with a rule 3.7 that allows
Australia to include the co2 from burning-down-forests
in their baseline.
Ex3. Why does New Zealand get a number of 100, why does Australia
get a number of l08,when Australia has the highest per-capita co2 emmisions in the world, when the US gets a number of 93.
Because of these rules, the Aus will not need to do anything to be under quota,
the EU is almost under quota by doing nothing,
but there would be massive problems in the US if Kyoto was adopted.

[nuconvert]

Good post. I'm not familiar with Melanie Phillips, but I've made some of these same points myself.

Thanks

[Imal]

Global warming is another big money grab based on unethiccal junk science, like the CFC scam.

Both are intended to make billions for their sponsors, which, in the CFC scam, has already been done.

[StopGlobalWhining]

Here's a wonderful and well sourced article that documents that the total human contribution to the greenhouse effect is about 0.28%.

Global Warming: A closer look at the numbers

[nuconvert]

ping

[beckett]

Michael Crichton made a point worth remembering on global warming in a 2002 speech to the International Leadership Forum:

The other thing I will mention to you is that during the last 100 years, while the average temperature on the globe has increased just .3 C, the magnetic field of the earth declined by 10%. This is a much larger effect than global warming and potentially far more serious to life on this planet. Our magnetic field is what keeps the atmosphere in place. It is what deflects lethal radiation from space. A reduction of the earth's magnetic field by ten percent is extremely worrisome.

But who is worried? Nobody. Who is raising a call to action? Nobody. Why not? Because there is nothing to be done.

Bring up the magnetic field at the next party where a hand wringer on global warming spouts off and see if he or she knows what the hell you are talking about.

[marbren]

I am in the northeast. I would enjoy a little global warming right now.