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MSNBC ^ | 01/09/2004 | Martin Wolk

Posted on 01/09/2004 3:05:21 PM PST by Whatodo

Friday’s disappointing employment report did little to derail forecasts of strong growth this year but gave fresh ammunition to critics who complain the Bush administration has failed to achieve its chief economic goal — job creation.

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The unemployment rate fell in December to 5.7 percent, its lowest level in nearly a year – but only because 309,000 people dropped out of the labor force, according to government data. Employers added a scant 1,000 jobs last month, a barely perceptible number in an economy of 130 million workers and far short of the 127,000 net new jobs analysts had been expecting. The Labor Department also revised away 51,000 jobs that had been reported in previous months.

“It’s a lousy report any way you look at it,” said David Wyss, chief economist at Standard & Poor’s Corp. “Employment has been up five months in a row, but all five months together add up to about one normal month of growth. We’re just not getting any kind of job growth despite the strength we’ve seen in GDP.”

The figures were especially disappointing considering the surge in gross domestic product that began in mid-2003 and more recent evidence of growth. Weekly claims for new unemployment benefits have fallen to their lowest level in three years, and surveys have led analysts to predict that businesses at last are boosting hiring after the long jobless recovery.

“The popular, man-in-the-street, ground-level view of the job market is that is still stinks,” said Bill Cheney, chief economist for John Hancock. “All of us forecasters were getting a bit complacent, and it turns out the man in the street was probably right.”

President Bush and others in the administration chose to focus on the improved unemployment rate, which has fallen from a peak of 6.4 percent in June.

Bush, speaking to a forum on small business, said economic indicators were “very strong” and called the drop in the unemployment rate a “positive sign.”

Labor Secretary Elaine Chao acknowledged that job creation last month was “less robust than forecasters projected” but said Bush’s economic policies are working. In a written statement, she called for congressional action on Bush’s “six-point plan” to boost employment by streamlining government regulations, limiting “excessive” lawsuits and extending tax breaks that are scheduled to expire.

Stock prices fell and bonds soared, sending market interest rates sharply lower. The weak demand for workers is keeping wage inflation in check and makes it even more likely that the Federal Reserve will not begin raising short-term interest rates until next year, analysts said.

GUIDE Key economic indicators

Click an indicator name to learn more Period Latest Prev. • Consumer Confidence Dec.* 91.3 92.5 • Retail sales Nov.* 0.9% 0.0% • GDP Q3* 8.2% 3.3% • ISM Index Dec.* 66.2 62.8 • Factory Orders Nov.* -1.4% 2.4% • Unemployment Rate Nov. 5.9% 6.0% • Employment situation Nov.* 57,000 137,000 • Consumer inflation Nov. 1.1% 1.3% • Housing starts Nov.* 2,070,000 1,980,000 • Home sales Nov.* 7,142,000 7,459,000

back to list | next CONSUMER CONFIDENCE Recent figures Dec.* 91.3 Nov. 92.5 Oct. 81.7 Sept. 77.0 Aug. 81.7 July 77.0 June 83.5 May 83.6 April 81.0 March 61.4 Feb. 64.8 Jan. 03 78.8

What is it? Consumer confidence is considered important because consumer spending accounts for more than two-thirds of U.S. economic activity. The monthly Conference Board survey is one of the two most closely watched indicators of sentiment. Based on a mail-in survey sent to about 5,000 households. Results are converted to an index and expressed in comparison to the 1985 average of 100. Source: The Conference Board

back to list | next RETAIL SALES Recent figures Nov.* 0.9% Oct. 0.0% Sept. -0.3% Aug. 1.0% July 1.4% June 0.9% May 0.5% April -0.3% March 2.3% Feb. -1.4% Jan. 03 0.4% Dec. 1.4%

What is it? A broad measure of consumer spending trends. Includes sales of motor vehicles, clothing, food at both grocery stores and restaurants, electronics, building materials drugs and other items. Expressed as a percent change from previous month, adjusted for seasonal variations but not price changes. Source: Census Bureau

back to list | next GDP Recent figures Q3* 8.2% Q2 3.3% Q1 2003 1.4% Q4 1.4% Q3 4.0% Q2 1.3% Q1 2002 5.0% Q4 2.7% Q3 -0.3% Q2 -1.6% Q1 2001 -0.6% Q4 1.1%

What is it? The gross domestic product is the broadest measure of the economy, comprising the value of all goods and services produced in the United States. It is reported quarterly with frequent revisions. Generally expressed as a percentage change from the previous quarter in "real" or inflation-adjusted terms. Economists presume real GDP is capable of growing at an annual rate of about 3.5 percent over the long term. When GDP declines over a sustained period of time the economy is considered to be in recession. Source: Bureau of Economic Analysis.

back to list | next ISM INDEX Recent figures Dec.* 66.2 Nov. 62.8 Oct. 57.0 Sept. 53.7 Aug. 54.7 July 51.8 June 49.8 May 49.4 April 45.4 March 46.2 Feb. 50.5 Jan. 03 53.9

What is it? The first major indicator reported each month, considered a reliable assessment of how the manufacturing sector is performing. Based on a survey of executives done by the Institute for Supply Management, formerly known as the National Association of Purchasing Management. Responses are compiled and reported as an index number. A reading above 50 percent indicates the manufacturing sector is expanding, while a reading below 50 indicates it is shrinking. Source: Institute for Supply Management

back to list | next FACTORY ORDERS Recent figures Nov.* -1.4% Oct. 2.4% Sept. 1.4% Aug. -0.3% July 2.0% June 1.9% May 0.3% April -2.6% March 1.5% Feb. -0.5% Jan. 03 1.6% Dec. 0.3%

What is it? Data on new orders for manufactured goods, adjusted for seasonal variation, offer a good indicator of the manufacturing sector's health, closely watched because it is the most volatile part of the economy. Expressed as percent change from previous month. Source: Census Bureau.

back to list | next UNEMPLOYMENT RATE Recent figures Nov. 5.9% Oct. 6.0% Sept. 6.1% Aug. 6.1% July 6.2% June 6.4% May 6.1% April 6.0% March 5.8% Feb. 5.8% Jan. 03 5.7% Dec. 6.0%

What is it? One of the best known and most politically powerful economic indicators, the rate is calculated from a monthly survey among a sample of about 60,000 households. The rate is adjusted for seasonal variations, but unlike most economic statistics it is never revised. Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics.

back to list | next EMPLOYMENT SITUATION Recent figures Nov.* 57,000 Oct. 137,000 Sept. 99,000 Aug. 35,000 July -57,000 June -83,000 May -76,000 April -22,000 March -151,000 Feb. -121,000 Jan. 03 158,000 Dec. -211,000

What is it? Represents the month-to-month change in jobs on payrolls of the nation's business, government and non-profit establishments. Generally considered a more accurate indicator of labor market health than the unemployment rate. Analysts estimate the economy should add about 150,000 jobs monthly to keep up with the nation's growing work force. Based on a sample of 300,000 establishments employing nearly a third of the nation's workers, the figure is adjusted for seasonal variations and frequently revised. Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics.

back to list | next CONSUMER INFLATION Recent figures Nov. 1.1% Oct. 1.3% Sept. 1.2% Aug. 1.3% July 1.5% June 1.5% May 1.6% April 1.5% March 1.7% Feb. 1.7% Jan. 03 1.9% Dec. 1.9%

What is it? The most widely known and used measure of inflation, the Consumer Price Index is based on the price of a "basket"of goods including food, beverages, fuel, medical care and clothing. Value refers to year-over-year change in "core" prices, excluding volatile food and energy categories. Source: Bureau of Labor Statistics.

back to list | next HOUSING STARTS (seasonally adjusted annual rate) Recent figures Nov.* 2,070,000 Oct. 1,980,000 Sept. 1,931,000 Aug. 1,831,000 July 1,890,000 June 1,844,000 May 1,745,000 April 1,627,000 March 1,742,000 Feb. 1,640,000 Jan. 03 1,828,000 Dec. 1,815,000

What is it? A good indicator to assess demand for housing and construction industry health. Represents the number of new residential buildings, including single-family and multifamily homes, where construction was started. Expressed as a seasonally adjusted annual rate. Construction was started on 1.7 million new residential structures in 2002, the highest level since 1986. Source: Census Bureau.

back to list | next HOME SALES (seasonally adjusted annual rate) Recent figures Nov.* 7,142,000 Oct. 7,459,000 Sept. 7,817,000 Aug. 7,650,000 July 7,275,000 June 7,030,000 May 6,931,000 April 6,854,000 March 6,538,000 Feb. 6,795,000 Jan. 03 7,029,000 Dec. 6,973,000

What is it? One of the bright spots of the economy in recent years, driven at least in part by historically low mortgage rates. Figure represents the sum of new and existing single-family home sales, expressed as a seasonally adjusted annual rate. In 2002, a record 6.5 million homes were sold. Sources: National Association of Realtors, Census Bureau

* preliminary figures • Printable version

Critics of Bush’s economic policy, including his Democratic rivals for the presidency, were quick to pounce on the report as evidence that last year’s huge tax cut package had failed to achieve the White House’s stated goals for job growth, which called for 510,000 new jobs in 2003. The economy has lost 2.3 million jobs over the past three years including 74,000 jobs last year.

“With the recovery that we’re supposed to be in, adding 1,000 jobs is pathetic,” said Democratic hopeful Richard Gephardt, campaigning in New Hampshire. “It’s nothing short of pitiful and pathetic. This is truly a jobless recovery.”

"Democrats need issues, and this number today keeps the issue alive for them," said Greg Valliere, chief strategist for Schwab Washington Research Group. "It's probably Bush's greatest domestic vulnarability, that job growth just doesn’t pick up."

To be sure, nobody was predicting the economy was in any danger of reversing course, and some analysts suggested the latest payroll numbers may be understating the strength of the labor market, partly because of seasonal factors related to sluggish holiday hiring.

Retail employment fell by 38,000 last month, suggesting that the usual seasonal layoffs in January also will be lighter than typically seen in past years. That could result in a spike of new jobs next month, said Tony Crescenzi, chief bond market strategist at Miller Tabak & Co.

“We’re not in a downward spiral or anything like that,” agreed Cheney. “I don’t think there’s anything else that would suggest the economy is heading down again. I don’t even think the job market is heading down again.”

But he said the failure of the economy to create job raises the risk that economic models, including those used by the White House, seriously underestimate the growth rate needed to boost employment. And he said the weak job growth is likely to shake confidence and make the economy more vulnerable to an external shock.

Crescenzi and some others said the payroll numbers are failing to capture a surge in self-employment and small-business hiring that show up in the separate household survey, which is the source of the unemployment rate.

But Wyss said such structural changes are not necessarily to the benefit of workers, because they imply less job security and fewer fringe benefits.

“You can look at the payrolls or the household survey and they will give the same message -- that this recovery is still a fairly slow-motion event in terms of job creation,” said Ed McKelvey, senior economist at Goldman Sachs. “Companies are being extraordinarily careful in how many people they put on the payrolls.”

John Silvia, chief economist at Wachovia Securities, said the weak job growth is mixed news for financial markets, suggesting the consumer spending will be weaker than expected but profits could be stronger because of surprising productivity growth.

He said Democrats are justified in challenging President Bush to do more to generate job growth rather than simply cutting taxes and waiting for the business cycle to take over.

“From my personal perspective, you’ve turned the corner” from an economy that was losing jobs to one that is adding jobs, he said. “But it’s not like a Nascar race where you’ve turned the corner and are accelerating out of the turn. You’ve turned the corner and you’re still going at the same mopey speed.”


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To: bolobaby
Agree
41 posted on 01/09/2004 3:31:57 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: Whatodo
Good luck in your next incarnation.
42 posted on 01/09/2004 3:32:23 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (The Democratic Party: Without an electoral mandate for almost 28 years.)
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To: bolobaby
I love a good zotting as much as the next guy, but I think this one was a little soon too.
43 posted on 01/09/2004 3:33:12 PM PST by Orangedog (Remain calm...all is well! [/sarcasm])
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To: Orangedog; Lead Moderator
This one would have been a perfect example of what you would send to the "Trash Forum" where we could flog the troll for a while.

Seriesly. The traffic there would be hugh.
44 posted on 01/09/2004 3:38:48 PM PST by 11B3 (Democratic Socialists of America: 78 members in Congress. Treason? YES.)
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To: Whatodo
I'm just a fella looking for some answers. Nothing more, nothing less.

There's nothing more annoying than someone with an agenda who pretends to be just some guy who wants "answers" when in reality he's only wanting to persuade people to his point of view. You don't want answers--you want something that you're not going to get; a different president in 2004.

45 posted on 01/09/2004 3:40:29 PM PST by wimpycat ("Black holes are where God divided by zero.")
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To: woofie
What not to do? Be Whatodo

LOL! Gotta love freepers!

46 posted on 01/09/2004 3:42:32 PM PST by ladyinred (W/04)
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To: ambrose
...It worked great in the late 90's until the stock market bubble collapsed. It seems like that cycle is beginning to repeat itself.
With all due respect, I question this.

-The 90's was, after all, only about 10 years ago and the memory of most investors is not quite that short term-- esp. after getting a financial hosing.

-There are new, younger investors today who were maybe little more than teenagers in the 90's. While these new investors did not actually experience the bubble/burst they do know of it; perhaps even through the stock market troubles of their immediate family.

- The situations -- politically, world, national, social, in business, et. al. is not what it was ten years ago. This too will effect investors.

-And last but not least is that fact that (we) boomers are 10 years closer to retirement than in the 90's. That alone is a mighty darn factor.

...Because when peoples' stock portfolios go up, they feel richer and spend more, which creates more jobs.
Actually, more people "feel richer and spend more" not b/c of their stock porfolio but because of the new-thanks-to-low-interest-rates equity in their houses. They can refinance, pay less every month, and the the "left over" money go out and buy/invest in things.

47 posted on 01/09/2004 3:46:46 PM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: yankeedame
Actually the 90s ended a little over 5 years ago.
48 posted on 01/09/2004 3:57:28 PM PST by Kaslin ("The way to dishonor a fallen soldier is to quit too early." President George W. Bush)
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To: spoonfork2000
spoonfork2000 (a DU member) aka DUVisitor, FrenchStinkyYuck, TrueAmurican, ProudCon1776, Brainshrub, Masked Conservative, et al, banned (again).
49 posted on 01/09/2004 4:01:58 PM PST by Jim Robinson (I don't belong to no organized political party. I'm a Republycan.)
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To: Jim Robinson
"Brainshrub"

I think he found the one that fits.

50 posted on 01/09/2004 4:03:54 PM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: will1776
I'm relatively new to Free Republic (watched for awhile, got myself a screen name a couple of weeks ago) and haven't yet figured out the whole "zot" thing. Does this mean someone has been banned from posting? And why does this happen?
51 posted on 01/09/2004 4:50:21 PM PST by Karyn M. PhD
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To: Karyn M. PhD; Admin Moderator
Yes. It means that their screen names have been banned. It happens because the poster is a troll and is trying to start stuff with FReepers. Admin can probably explain it better than I can. Then he can take a little trip here.;-)
52 posted on 01/09/2004 4:57:39 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (The Democratic Party: Without an electoral mandate for almost 28 years.)
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To: Whatodo
Don't have a job? Create one.
We have a number of people in our society that will wait till that last bit of UP is filed for before they will change occupations or get a different job.
The answer is in us and not a political party.
53 posted on 01/09/2004 5:18:31 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: will1776
HEY! I got to page 8 before I figured it out :D
54 posted on 01/09/2004 5:19:47 PM PST by cyborg
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To: cyborg
Now I've got to find a different site. The mods know about this one already.
55 posted on 01/09/2004 5:23:34 PM PST by WinOne4TheGipper (The Democratic Party: Without an electoral mandate for almost 28 years.)
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To: Orangedog
I find it hard to believe that we are going to produce any real increase in jobs with all them going overseas. On top of that government spending is going hog wild. The dollar is droping and the few jobs that are left are about to be all taken by illegals. Does not look or feel good to me.
56 posted on 01/09/2004 5:32:16 PM PST by Revel
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To: Jim Robinson; sweetliberty
Wow, a two for one deal in the same thread!
*chuckle*
57 posted on 01/09/2004 5:43:37 PM PST by Darksheare (Which would be better, an artificial mind for the guy.. or an artificial guy for the mind?)
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To: chudogg
HOLY! DID I JUST SEE A LIVE ZOTTING! MY LIFE IS COMPLETE

I'm jealous. i keep missing them. If only the trolls would ping me. :-(

58 posted on 01/09/2004 5:45:49 PM PST by BlessedBeGod
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To: BlessedBeGod
In my experience, Monday mornings, and weekday mornings (Eastern time) are prime opportunities to see a Troll in the wild, before ZOTTING. You have to watch really close, though. They may have changed their habits in the past couple of months, but I've seen quite a few Trolls on weekday mornings, unspoiled, and in their all their glory, before they were mercilessly cut down. I even got to post on a few. In some instances, the Mods were so fast, that I would be in the process of responding to a troll, and by the time I hit the "post" button, the thread was gone.
59 posted on 01/09/2004 5:51:35 PM PST by wimpycat ("Black holes are where God divided by zero.")
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To: wimpycat
I meant to say Monday mornings especially, and weekday mornings (Eastern time) in general are prime opportunities to see a Troll in the wild.
60 posted on 01/09/2004 5:52:51 PM PST by wimpycat ("Black holes are where God divided by zero.")
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