ZOT!!! How do we get fed to the kittens?

MSNBC ^ | 01/09/2004 | Martin Wolk

[bolobaby]

Unfortunately, productivity is going through the roof during the same time we need jobs created. Those two things are counter-current to one another.

But increased productivity also is very good for business as it decreases the bottom line. This allows businesses to accumulate capital which they then turn around an invest in expansion. Usually that expansion means more jobs.

Fiscal and monetary policy take years to manifest themselves in the labor market. (Unless, of course, you spend money on federal work programs - which ultimately are an artificial and baseless manner in which to grow a labor market because there is no real demand.) Bush's tax cuts and the low interest rates are having a good effect that will probably manifest itself as a hot job market within the next 12-24 months. I honestly can't see it happening much faster than that.

Also, the job market of the 90's was driven by the emergence of new technology. Right now, no new innovations are poised to make a massive impact on our lives. I personally think that an aggressive space program is a good start (although I'd also like to see a deregulation of space which would open it to private investment). Other potential innovations could be fuel cell technology, next generation virtual reality, safety technology (related to terrorism), etc.

We'll see what emerges...

[ambrose]

Because when peoples' stock portfolios go up, they feel richer and spend more, which creates more jobs. It worked great in the late 90's until the stock market bubble collapsed. It seems like that cycle is beginning to repeat itself.

These sort of boom/bust cycles transcend whoever happens to be in office at the moment.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

We hire more Viking Kitties...

[11th Commandment]

The Government numbers are wrong on job creation. They are missing emerging business doing the majority of hiring. The reason 309,000 dropped off the roles is because the people who never intended to go back to work, their unemployment benefits ran out. That is why is was stupid for congress to extend the unemployment benefits.

In the 90's many older worker delayed retirement and many women jumped into the workforce to earn quick money. When they got layed off, they collected unemployment- of course, as long as they were "looking" for work. When the congressional extended benefits ran out, they were all of the sudden, not looking for work.

[Orangedog]

A 1,000 new jobs is better than 0 new jobs or a minus 1,000 new jobs. If we had 25,000 new jobs, you would still complain. New jobs is just one among many factors to look at as for as the economy. The TREND in new job is just as important.

The trend needs to be stronger. A lot stronger. The economy needs to produce about 150,000 (that's what the estimates were for todays numbers) new jobs a month to keep up with new entrants into the job market. If it were 25,000 that would only qualify as "not as bad" as 1000, but still bad.

[bolobaby]

Exactly! Did you notice that when congress extended unemployment benefits they were actually creating an unprecedented artificial increase in unemployment numbers???

[dirtbiker]

One thing I didn't see were figures for those who decided to the the boss where to "stick it" and be their own boss! You don't have to work FOR someone if you don't want to.......GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

[yankeedame]

(Beer is God's way of telling us He loves us and wants us to be happy)

LOL! And a big Idaho baked potato is God's way of letting us eat 1/4 lb. of butter at one sitting.

[chudogg]

HOLY! DID I JUST SEE A LIVE ZOTTING! MY LIFE IS COMPLETE

INCOMING..

ZOT!!!

[Lael]

First of all, recognize that the "Official" end of the recession, October 2001, is bogus, based only on a "rebound" in the Hydonically cooked GDP.

Best to use the Stock Market in it's leading indicator role.

The SM bottomed in October 2002, ans retested the lows in March, 2003.

Using standard "Leads and Lags", we should recognize that the Economy hit bottom sometime in the 2 Quarter 2003 to the 4 Quarter 2003.

Hence, we are 'bumping along the bottom' employment wise, and probably will for the rest of 2004.

This outlook Jibes with the most recent Federal Reserve Board Minutes from October [always delayed 45 days], where the consensus is that significant hiring won't occur until well into 2005.

BTW, I have had considerable experience with these things since we were responsible for forecasting Commercial and Industrial Loan demand, as well as forecasting the Asset and Liabilities Accounts for several New York Banks.

[Reagan Man]

Thank you kindly.

The economy has been getting better for the last year. Economic expansion has been robust. Inflation, interest rates and unemployment figures are all looking good. OTOH, job creation has been slow. After the WallSt bubble busted, the nation went into recession and the events of 9-11 occured, employers have been extremely reluctant to engage in new hires. The figures released today continue this trend of a jobless recovery. Overall, things are looking good. The Bush tax cuts have made a significant difference in kick starting the US economy. But the business cycle is a more critical factor in how the US economy recovers from this downturn period.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

I held back until the zot was official this time. I DID NOT write this, just so you know.

You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As we say in Texas, I'll bet you couldn't pour p!ss out of a boot with instructions on the heel.

You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you. You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.

You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done. I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you.

You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell? Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.

You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood.

May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs. You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with you.

You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot. And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?

You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile, one-handed, slack-jawed, drooling, meatslapper. On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool.

You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go. You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock. You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You cockered bum-bailey poofter. You craven dewberry pisshead cockup pratting naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill.

You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you, and I wish you would go away.

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid, so stupid it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me.

After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh. The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of what you wrote, because, well... it didn't really say anything.

Your attempt at constructing a creative post was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn't have been "right". Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.

[dighton]

If we want to win this election we have to have an answer, otherwise voters won't buy it.

Oui?

[TommyUdo]

One Willie is enough.

You have violated Robot's Rules of Order and will be asked to leave the Future immediately.

[Orangedog]

And a big Idaho baked potato is God's way of letting us eat 1/4 lb. of butter at one sitting.

Don't forget the sour cream ;)

[PISANO]

Clearly this is George Bush's fault...... as is global warming, 911, the federal DEBT, world-wide terrorism and phen phen.

[bolobaby]

Oh man... that sucks... he raised an interesting discussion. I can't say I agree with that ZOT, troll or not.

Occassionally I think we all should be challenged so we can reiterate and reinforce our arguments.

[WinOne4TheGipper]

Some of us are a bit pudgy. That's Bush's fault, too.

[Ronin]

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