Saddam and 9/11

Frontpage Magazine ^ | 1/8/2004 | Jamie Glazov

[Peach]

Although a NewsMax article, it mentions MANY people who believe Iraq was involved in the '93 WTC bombing, as well as mentions much of the same information in the book The New Jackals.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/987075/posts

[Peach]

Many in Congress also believe there was Iraq involvement in '93 WTC bombing.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/746225/posts

[Peach]

I disagree; having read as many books as I can about terrorism and Iraq, the evidence is NOT something that can be listed in a few bullet points. The world is a lot more complicated than that. Savy voters understand that geopolitics are complex and sometimes there is never foolproof evidence, much like a murder case where we don't have actual videotape of the crime, merely circumstantial evidence.

[Mr. Jeeves]

But Bush has to get a lot of votes from non-savvy voters to win. And the Left is getting traction with its asinine "Bush Lied, Kids Died" campaign. Clear, convincing evidence of WMD would destroy the whole thing, but I don't think the Administration can get away with just trying to ignore the question indefinitely.

Unfortunately, if you can't make your political case in sound bites these days, you are in trouble.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Actually I have heard him mention that more than once.

What is your point?

[Lyford]

bump for later

[justshutupandtakeit]

That article does not say Myleroe was a phony. It disputes some of her assumptions but also indicates that the prosecutors in the WTC trial were thinking the along the same lines. It also indicates that cooperation between OBL and Saddam was not only not unlikely but had occurred in several instances.

Perhaps you could make your case with more recent information about Pipes' current thinking this article was published only a few days after 9/11 when information was much more sketchy.

What is your agenda in trying to cover the obvious and numerous Bin Laden/Saddam connections?

[JohnGalt]

If they get paid by the same employer to say similar things, doesn't that at the very least color the value of his endorsement?

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Okay, then. We shouldn't listen to anything Cheney says, because he works with Bush, add Rummy, Wolfowitz, Tenet, Ridge, etc. Throw them all out. They can all be silenced.

Easy, isn't it?

[justshutupandtakeit]

That is one of your more idiotic comments to escape from your pie hole.

"Making money" writing about historical events is some kind of sin? So authors are supposed to work for nothing?

Nor is there anything wrong with working for the McVeigh defense team it is just unfortunate that he was executed so quickly that more information about his involvement with Islamic radicals (through his partner for one) did not receive proper investigation. Iraq's hands in that attack are not clean either.

[JohnGalt]

As a patriot, I hate to see phonies like Mylroie making money off those who died at WTC 1, the OKC Bombing, and 9/11. Stephen Jones could get none of her stuff submitted into court when she worked as a consultant for McVeigh's defense team; she aided and abetted, perhaps unknowingly, a government cover-up of whatever the hell was going on at Elohim City, Carol Howe, and Andres Strassmeir.

What is your agenda in spreading tin foil hat theories?

[cyncooper]

The Iranians are having a good old laugh at us. When we get serious and the truth comes out, it will read. "ITS IRAN STUPID"!

Oh, really?

Your conclusion is flawed, since President Bush did identify Iran as a member of the "Axis of Evil". They are not being ignored as you imply.

[Sean Osborne Lomax]

EXACTAMUNDO!!!! You are dead-on correct!!!

[NutCrackerBoy]

Bush is going to have a lot of trouble with this issue [absence of Saddam-terror connection] in the fall. The Left has already declared victory because their charges are going unrefuted by the Administration.

It is more critical for W to alter the institutional behavior of the agencies. If he could do that by going public with an absolutely convincing Saddam-terror link, he probably would.

It is interesting that, as Dr. Mylroie points out twice, W hasn't followed Reagan's lead of replacing careerists with his own who have drunk the proper Kool-Aid. I think it is W's management style to convert rather than replace. He tries to facilitate conversion by removing their barriers from the truth. Finally, the truth forces the recalcitrant wrong-headers to stop acting institutionally.

[JohnGalt]

No, the reverse is true; come on you know that.

We expect people who work on the same team to agree, but that does not mean they all speak the truth. Ergo, one would expect Woosley to agree with Mylroie, even without seeing his endorsement.

[Pan_Yans Wife]

Your bias is showing, even as you lament about Mylroie. My goodness... we cannot read Woolsey, Taheri, Ledeen?

Who do you think gives and accurate portrayal? The NYTimes?

[Sean Osborne Lomax]

I beg to differ.

Laurie is absolutely correct, and she is THE Iraq exert here. One would of absolute necessity need to answer with a thousand words or more to properly respond to the question.

If you would like to do your own keyword search to find the Iraq connection to terrorism (NAY, ACTS OF WAR AGAINST THE USA ON OUR SOIL!!!) here's a start:

1.) Abu Nidal
2.) Mohammed Atta
3.) The handwritten July 2001 Memo from the Iraqi
director of al-Mukhabarat at the time, Tahir Abd al-Jalil al-Habbush, to President Saddam Hussein:

Which I quote:

"He (Mohammed Atta) displayed extraordinary effort and showed a firm commitment to lead the team which will be reponsible for attacking the targets we have agreed to destroy."

Mohammed Atta led the the attacks of September 11, 2001.

Case closed imho.

[JohnGalt]

They are all liars, my dear.

Armchair Provocateur

"...Woolsey was dispatched to the United Kingdom on an extraordinary trip, apparently sanctioned by Wolfowitz, to check out a key aspect of Mylroie's argument about Yousef. During the early '90s, Abdul Basit, the Pakistani whose identity Yousef had supposedly assumed, attended a Welsh college to study electrical engineering. Mylroie writes that Basit was quite different in appearance from Yousef, thus further proving her contention that Yousef was a substitute, a fact that could be proved by visiting Basit's former college in Wales. As Woolsey has made no comment on his trip to the United Kingdom, it's fair to assume that his efforts to replicate these findings did not meet with success...

[Big Giant Head]

ping to find this later