America's fate in hands of illegal aliens?

worldnetdaily.com ^ | 1/7/2004 | worldnetdaily.com

[arm958]

If they continue along the lines of abandoning us, we should abandon them - to whatever Party that emerges that places a higher value on US citizenship.

The Constitution Party: Go to their website.

[MissAmericanPie]

I agree wholeheartedly. Sure there should be a guest worker program, of course. Not this one, and not this way.

First control the border, cut off welfare to illegals and deport them, invite working illegals to register proving their employment. Demand the employer give proof that he has run an ad to fill the job, if no American applies then grant the illegal, worker status, no citizenship, no voting priviledges, if he wants to become a citizen he must get in line and wait. Provide a way for Americans who have been turned down for a job held by an illegal to file a challange.

If a state grants them a drivers license then it becomes mandatory for the state to remove the ability to vote in national elections via drivers liscense or their votes will not be counted. Illegals should have an identifying insignia on their divers liscense and SS cards indicating that they are a non-voting guest worker.

Employers knowingly hiring illegals and paying them under the table face mandatory fines and prison time.

Illegals must be paid no less than minimum wage, their families cannot join them and must go home. Others are waiting to come and bring their families, so illegals should not be rewarded for jumping in line by allowing their families to jump in line also. Madatory arrest by local and state police of illegals found in arrest or traffic ticket situations and prompt turn over to an agency that will promptly pick them up and place them in the deportation process.

A stream lined system not blocked by the courts in moving them out of the country. Any activist judge challenging and over riding the law faces mandatory impeachment by the congress and removal from the bench and that includes those sitting on the Supreme Court.

Any congressman, lobbist, or other entity attempting to interfere or cause to hamper the enforcement of these laws and seeks to encourage agencies not to do their job faces mandatory removal from office, loss of lobbying priviledges, fines and prison time.

No Social Security for those that have broken our laws from the date of their registering with the system back. They may qualify for SS from the date of their registering forward.

Millions of jobs are being outsourced every year, now there is a flood of outsourcing, all immigration both legal and illegal must be tied to the number of jobs lost due to outsourcing. Right now I think we are at three million jobs lost, that would mean all immigration must stop for three years or until it becomes obvious that Americans have found satifactory replacement jobs in which immigrants have not been allowed to suppress the wage.

There must be a method in place by which a citizen alone or as a group can challange wage suppression created by immigration and receive repriation from the company involved.

That would be the plan off the top of my head, one that has even the least chance of actually working and that is still very doubtful.

[Texasforever]

Argue the points all day and night long, but I've lived in California all my life (except for 3 years in Spain) and the above is ABSOLUTLEY part of the problem

California is one of the largest welfare havens in the country. State welfare benefits are just that. state benefits. The Feds have no control over them. Maybe California should take a page out of the book of Texas and make work, even minimum wage, pay better than welfare. That goes for all on welfare not just illegal aliens.

[Elkiejg]

WOW - I like the way you think!! I hope you've sent this to the WH - they sure could use your thoughts.

[MissAmericanPie]

I'm pretty sure Rove would tell me not to darken the door. haha

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

AWWWWcmon man snoopy is just not even depicted right in that pic whoever Created that needs a good smack across the head with a dead carp !

[putupon]

snoopy is just not even depicted right in that pic

'splain yourself, Snoopy always snuck up on Linus and tried to take his blanket.

[Ed_in_NJ]

Why do you favor them over the Conservative Party?

[ovrtaxt]

Heehee-- better watch those taglines!! I still can't get over that little episode the other night...

[Law]

Thanks for reproducing Sabertooth's superb post.

[arm958]

Why do you favor them over the Conservative Party?

I don't necessarily; I just don't know much about it. I tried a Google search to find more information on the Conservative Party and there was nothing on the first three pages. When I started hitting Cyrillic characters I gave up. There were plenty of sites for the U.K. Conservative Party, but none for any such U.S. party. They obviously have their work cut out for them.

[ETERNAL WARMING]

Fair.org has alot of stats!

[ETERNAL WARMING]

But that wouldn't be "compassionate".

It's time the hard working American taxpayer was shown some "compassion."

[Siamese Princess]

It's not just the social programs that are in place now --- but they will have to grow enormously as millions more poverty-stricken immigrants come over or are brought over by their relatives.

The children of Mexican immigrants actually tend to do less well than do their immigrant parents. The parents may be hardworking, but their children all too often are worthless -- too many of their sons become gangbangers and to many of their daughters become welfare mamasitas spawning offspring by their gangbanger boyfriends.

It isn't feasible with our very high costs of living and very high standard of living to think that millions of third world people with no education, no language ability, no job skills can make it on their own and be self-reliant here. A very few can.

You are making too much sense. The quality of immigrants to this country from around the world has deteriorated, not only from Mexico but from India, China, as well.

[Travis McGee]

If the INS was run like the ATF, every illegal would be arrested, deported or shot in one month.

If the ATF was run like the INS, you could shoot unregistered machine guns in your backyard day and night.

(I just want a list of the laws that "really count" that I need to obey, and a list of the laws that I can ignore, like the illegals can.)

[MissouriForBush]

Your post #22 is absolutely on target. So many unfriendly nations around the world have so much to gain -- in a variety of ways -- from both Republicans' and Democrats' refusal to confront and stop illegal immigration.

America, wake up to the destabilizing forces at work here!

[ETERNAL WARMING]

I think they are afraid of a civil war.

I think they're succeeding in creating one. The American worker has had enough!

[lentulusgracchus]

Your long and thoughtful post has a major problem: It isn't what Old Money wants.

They want "all cheap, all the time". They want their dollars to be bigger, as well as more numerous, than anyone else's dollars.

So we have a political reform problem at the top of the agenda, without solving which we can't fix any of the other problems properly.

We have to get rich people, corporations, foreign money interests, and their bagmen and lawyers out of U.S. politics for good.

Then we can figure out what to do with their armies of immigrant labor.

[The_Eaglet]

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