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Terri Schiavo update: Judge Baird's is OFF case.
Hospice Patients Alliance ^ | 1-5-04 | Ron Panzer

Posted on 01/05/2004 1:42:20 PM PST by cpforlife.org

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To: cpforlife.org
Good news. I doubt that the new judge will be all that fair, but she could not possibly be more corrupt than Baird. He is a total disgrace to the legal profession, worse than a tort lawyer.
21 posted on 01/05/2004 2:58:52 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: daylate-dollarshort
hi= his
22 posted on 01/05/2004 2:58:58 PM PST by daylate-dollarshort
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To: daylate-dollarshort
Does his ruling stand? Does she have authority to re-hear or re rule?

Thanks for the legalese info, by the way.
23 posted on 01/05/2004 3:00:51 PM PST by a5478 (a5478)
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To: cpforlife.org; nickcarraway
sounds promising to me.
24 posted on 01/05/2004 3:03:32 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: msmagoo
I'll take PLACES I'D LIKE TO LIVE for $400, Alex.

And the question is, what is "in a fair manor"?

:-)

25 posted on 01/05/2004 3:15:08 PM PST by T'wit
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To: a5478
The Administrative Order was effective January 1, 2004. The hearing before Judge Baird was submitted.

Judge Khouzam did not hear the case and has no ability to pass any judgment on the evidence and testimony presented by the parties.

The hearing, judicial process, was completed with the submission of the case to Judge Baird. In the interest of judicial economy, the State of Florida is big on judicial economy, I would not anticipate that there would be any re-hearing. Once Baird hands down his order, Judge Khouzam would be left without the ability to re-hear the case. An appeal to the Second DCA would be next. The Second DCA likely would certify the question and Bush could appeal directly to the Florida Supreme Court.

26 posted on 01/05/2004 3:22:19 PM PST by daylate-dollarshort
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To: cpforlife.org
Thanks for the ping, cp.

Dear Lord, please let this be good news!
Waiting and praying..........

27 posted on 01/05/2004 3:26:05 PM PST by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: pickyourpoison
bump
28 posted on 01/05/2004 3:30:01 PM PST by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: cpforlife.org; floriduh voter; nicmarlo; cyn; sweetliberty; Pegita; HuntsvilleTxVeteran; ...
Setback?
Conflicting reports circulating on Baird's replacement:

From Ron Panzer:

We have received conflicting information from the Sixth Judicial Circuit Court in Clearwater. This a.m. after being specifically asked if Judge Khouzam would take over the Terri's Law case of Michael Schiavo v Gov
Bush, Judge Khouzam's assistant said, EXACTLY:

"yes, Judge Khouzam is taking over all the cases Judge Baird had including the Terri's Law case."

After receiving reports denying that, we have RE-contacted the Court at 2 p.m. Eastern time, and Judge Baird's office says that Judge Baird is going to HOLD ONTO the Terri's Law case specifically. I guess it's too big a case for him to let go of, considering the implications of the case and the
agenda of the court as seen by Baird's prejudicial comments before getting the case.

Judge Baird's office specifically stated EXACTLY that,

"if Judge Khouzam's office told you that she [Khouzam] would be taking over the case, they were confused." "Judge Baird is keeping that case!"

We are disappointed that Baird will not release the case to Khouzam, and apologize for any confusion caused by sharing the mistaken information released by Judge Khouzam's office that Khouzam would take over the case.

We do not know why Judge Khouzam's office would specifically state that the Terri's Law case was to be taken over when it was not. It may be a simple mistake upon the part of Judge Khouzam's office, however, it does now appear Judge Baird will keep it.

Ron Panzer
for Hospice Patients Alliance

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So - is there a tug-of-war going on in the background here? Given the improper comments made by Baird about the Schiavo case, and the employee "betting pool" on Terri's life - I think a shakeup is appropriate. Dump Baird!

29 posted on 01/05/2004 3:37:34 PM PST by msmagoo (Bring Terri home to her family in 2004)
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To: msmagoo
Just as I posted above.

It has nothing to do with "I guess it's too big a case for him to let go of, considering the implications of the case and the agenda of the court as seen by Baird's prejudicial comments before getting the case." Judge Baird has already heard the case!!

Cases are NEVER turned over to a new judge once they have been heard or are in the process of being heard.

There is nothing extrordinary going on here....

30 posted on 01/05/2004 3:44:58 PM PST by daylate-dollarshort
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To: msmagoo
These b*st*rds are a sick lot, and as far as I'm concerned, as unamerican and unchristian as they come.
31 posted on 01/05/2004 3:49:45 PM PST by sweetliberty (Even the smallest person can change the course of the future. - (LOTR))
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To: Cicero; cpforlife.org

It was widely reported that Judge Baird made reckless and prejudicial comments in support of Greer and Felos and against Jeb's lawyers way before he had heard the evidence from the Governor's attorneys.

Good news. I doubt that the new judge will be all that fair, but she could not possibly be more corrupt than Baird. He is a total disgrace to the legal profession, worse than a tort lawyer.

Somehow, somewhere along the way, the public is going have to demand the removal of corrupt judges. They are not gods.

32 posted on 01/05/2004 3:59:55 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: cpforlife.org; All; phenn
I received an email that Judge Baird WAS REMAINING ON THE CASE. Is Baird on or off? Anybody know for sure? Ron Panzer stated today that Baird REMAINS ON THE CASE.
33 posted on 01/05/2004 4:01:52 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org freeper site)
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To: daylate-dollarshort
"Cases are NEVER turned over to a new judge once they have been heard or are in the process of being heard." 1. Never say NEVER. 2. Misconduct is sufficient reason to remove the case from Baird's control. 3. Baird made his opinion public, before hearing both sides of the case...of course he wants to retain control, so he can tailor his verdict to support the flawed rationale of the Pinellas County hacks who distorted the law and ignored evidence in the first place.
34 posted on 01/05/2004 4:26:26 PM PST by msmagoo (Bring Terri home to her family in 2004)
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To: cpforlife.org
BUMP
35 posted on 01/05/2004 4:35:09 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: sweetliberty
"These b*st*rds are a sick lot, and as far as I'm concerned, as unamerican and unchristian as they come."

Let's hope Khouzam is one of the good ones! As a mother and a woman, surely Judge Khouzam will see MS for what he is - a heel, a cad, a liar and a cheating husband, who has put Terri's family through untold suffering and emotional torture for 10 years. A Human In Name Only who has escaped justice and sees himself as the 'victim' in the battle to kill Terri. Boo hoo for poor Mike. A woman can see through him in a heartbeat!

36 posted on 01/05/2004 4:35:13 PM PST by msmagoo (Bring Terri home to her family in 2004)
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To: Federalist 78; cyn; fiesti
EVENING UPDATE 1-5-2003 NOTE: Judge W Douglas Baird has BEEN the judge presiding over the case to determine whether or not Terri's Law is Constitutional or not. We cannot confirm whether he has been replaced on this specific case or not (till tomorrow) however, he HAS been replaced by Judge Khouzam on his cases generally speaking.

It is possible that Judge Baird would keep this case, unless the Chief Circuit Judge who made the change of appointments for the judges is allowing Baird to keep the case. We believe that under the circumstances, the appropriate thing is to completely remove Baird from the case, since he stated, before taking the case, that Terri's Law was presumptively Unconstitutional, therefore showing bias against the Governor and Terri's Law! We HAVE determined the following:

JUDGE KHOUZAM HAS MOVED TO JUDGE BAIRD'S OFFICE This can be confirmed by calling Judge Khouzam's old number at 727-464-6425 which now answers as Judge Baird's number. The recording also states that Judge Khouzam may be reached at 727-464-3232 Judge Baird's old number!

Judge Baird HAS been moved from the Circuit Civil Division to the Criminal Division on 49th Street. It is Chief Circuit Court Judge Demers that makes the court appointments for the judges, we are told.

Judge Nelly N. Khouzam has taken over Judge Douglas Baird's division and his cases in the 6th Circuit Civil.

FV SAYS: Good, that means that Baird will be at the same complex as our protests on Jan. 7th and 8th. He's still responsible for his actions THUMBING HIS NOSE AT GOVERNOR BUSH!

37 posted on 01/05/2004 4:35:37 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org freeper site)
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To: Lady In Blue; Canticle_of_Deborah; MarMema; kimmie7; floriduh voter; JulieRNR21; NautiNurse; ...
Great News!
38 posted on 01/05/2004 4:36:16 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: floriduh voter
BIG BUMP for that info!
39 posted on 01/05/2004 4:37:45 PM PST by Federalist 78
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To: nickcarraway
Check out #37
40 posted on 01/05/2004 4:38:39 PM PST by Federalist 78
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