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Kansas State QB Ell Roberson Named as Sexual Assault Suspect on Eve of Fiesta Bowl
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Posted on 01/01/2004 5:29:22 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: KneelBeforeZod
It's K-State.....there is actually the possibility that they would not play him. The reason would not be the allegations though, as her proof is very sparse. The reason would be his violation of curfew.

We likely won't know until the game about what will happen.
41 posted on 01/02/2004 11:59:06 AM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Definitely, and it seems to continue a string of bad luck the team has just when they finally seem to break that string....
42 posted on 01/02/2004 12:02:04 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: af_vet_1981
True. If they charge him after the proof is there (it obviously will be; he admitted to having sex with her), that bothers me.

That shows the cops just automatically assume she is telling the truth, unlike any other crime in which the victim has to prove something.

Since there is no physical evidence of rape....no bruises no nothing....it seems a bit wrong to charge him if all they have is proof they had sex.
43 posted on 01/02/2004 12:04:37 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: KneelBeforeZod
If??? if??? you could be accused of murder with 3 witnesses and these football factories would play you anyway.

Not always. Ohio State's no nonsense policy on the Maurice Clarett situation(s) arguably cost us back to back National Championships. I have no doubt that Maurice would still be playing at some schools right now. Some colleges still play by the rules, and put doing what's right before $$$$s. (thank God)

44 posted on 01/02/2004 12:06:12 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: rwfromkansas
That shows the cops just automatically assume she is telling the truth, unlike any other crime in which the victim has to prove something.

Am I missing something, has he been charged? From what I've read, it seems like the police have gone out of their way to stress that these are ALLEGATIONS only.

This entire incident is upsetting for lots of reasons, but I don't think you can say Roberson is not getting the benefit of the doubt from law enforcement!

45 posted on 01/02/2004 12:10:27 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: Sunshine Sister
Just ran a Google news search and don't see anything about charges being dropped. What station in what city did you hear it on? Perhaps they have a web page we can access.
46 posted on 01/02/2004 12:11:04 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: LisaMalia
He won't be charged for a week or so.

My comment was on the hypothetical that they would charge him solely based on evidence they had sex.

He has not been charged.
47 posted on 01/02/2004 12:23:20 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: rwfromkansas
I can tell you, Ohio State fans are not happy about this situation either. We know what it's like to have this kind of controversy spoil it for the student-athletes who have put many hours in working hard to get where they have.
48 posted on 01/02/2004 12:26:39 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I heard it second hand that KMAJ radio (Topeka, KS) announced that the charges had been dropped. I don't have the faintest idea what is really happening. Perhaps the news was related to me incorrectly, or the radio station got it wrong to start with.
49 posted on 01/02/2004 12:30:57 PM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: Sunshine Sister
I went to the KMAJ web site, and found a link to an AP report saying that Roberson had been cleared to play in tonight's game. Here's the link:

http://www.cjonline.com/stories/010204/bre_roberson.shtml

The authorities are continuing to investigate the charges themselves, but so far he hasn't been charged. Frankly, though he of course might still be charged, I'd take this as a sign the evidence against him isn't strong. If there was strong evidence of guilt, I have to assume he'd be suspended, even if he hasn't been charged yet.
50 posted on 01/02/2004 12:43:06 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Thank you for going to all this work. This is the first business day of the month and I'm to busy to take more than a peek at FR.
51 posted on 01/02/2004 12:50:34 PM PST by Sunshine Sister
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
When will these idiot sports personalities figure this thing out. El Roberson is an idiot... if the coach had any 'nads he'd bench this fool. If I were a team mate, I'd kick the guy in the ass soo hard, he'd be spittin' shoe leather through his teeth.
52 posted on 01/02/2004 12:50:41 PM PST by Godfollow
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From www.kwch.com:

Scottsdale, AZ -- Kansas State Director of Athletics Tim Weiser said Friday that a thorough review of allegations against senior quarterback Ell Roberson has led the University to conclude that no criminal act occurred.

"The University views this situation very seriously and has been working closely with law enforcement throughout this investigation," Weiser said. "We appreciate the manner in which this investigation is being handled and look forward to an expeditious resolution."

Weiser said that (the) University's understanding is that the Paradise Valley Police Department will submit the findings of its investigation to the Maricopa County Attorney for review. "Although this is standard investigative procedure, the process is such that an official resolution to this matter cannot be completed prior to tonight's game."

Weiser reiterated that Head Coach Bill Snyder would make any decision regarding the playing status of Roberson and it will be a game-time decision.
53 posted on 01/02/2004 2:15:03 PM PST by rwfromkansas ("Men stumble over the truth, but most pick themselves up as if nothing had happened." Churchill)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
It's official. Roberson is starting.
54 posted on 01/02/2004 5:09:13 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: LisaMalia
I found it interesting that Coach Snyder said that the evidence suggests that he's innocent, and that that made his decision easier.
55 posted on 01/02/2004 5:14:13 PM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I found it interesting that Coach Snyder said that the evidence suggests that he's innocent, and that that made his decision easier

Each team has their rules, I guess. They're the ones who have to deal with them in the end.

56 posted on 01/02/2004 5:17:10 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: vetvetdoug

What is a "nice" woman doing out at a player's hotel after midnight?

Out to make a fortune if she or someone she knows had a sizeable bet against KState.

57 posted on 01/02/2004 5:24:18 PM PST by fso301
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
He may be innocent of the charges but he is not innocent of breaking curfew and team rules. Snyder has no integrity. I guess if you're good you can do anything you want. Way to set a good example for young people, Snyder.
58 posted on 01/02/2004 5:35:28 PM PST by WatchOutForSnakes
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To: WatchOutForSnakes
I guess if you're good you can do anything you want

NOT IN BUCKEYE COUNTRY!!!!!

59 posted on 01/02/2004 5:37:31 PM PST by LisaMalia (Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
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To: LisaMalia
Good. Glad to hear it. There are still some coaches out there that know what's really important. GO BUCKEYES!!!

Oh, and by the way, since I'm rooting for the Buckeyes tonight could you return the favor and pull for the Fighting Tigers against Oklahoma on Sunday??
60 posted on 01/02/2004 5:39:40 PM PST by WatchOutForSnakes
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