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Doomed UTA Flight 141 May Have Been Stolen Angolan Boeing 727
Naharnet Online ^ | 12-31-03

Posted on 01/01/2004 2:18:07 AM PST by L`enn

The doomed UTA Flight 141 may have been a Boeing 727 that was stolen from Luanda airport in Angola in May, or a U.S.-registered aircraft that had undergone an exterior makeover at Beirut International Airport, where its technical worthiness had been questioned.

According to Wednesday's edition of An Nahar, neither of these theories has yet been proven, leaving officials scrambling to distance themselves from Lebanon's worst civil aviation catastrophe, even though it did not occur on its soil.

As more intrigues unfolded in the case of the Christmas Day crash of the Beirut-bound flight from Benin, the last batch of Lebanese victims were buried on Tuesday in Lebanon heart-breaking scenes across the country. They were among 77 bodies repatriated on Sunday from Benin by the French Air Force.

Only 21 people survived the Christmas Day tragedy in Cotonou, Benin's commercial capital, after a botched takeoff attempt.

Despite pressure from the Beirut government, there was still no official word on exactly how many people were on the plane – allegedly overloaded by some nine tons in humans and also exotic fruit. The unofficial list remained at 161 passengers and crewmembers.

But the owners of the plane, Union des Transports Africains - a joint Guinean-Lebanese enterprise - have yet to produce an official manifest.

The confusion has been worsened by the mysterious disappearance of the Libyan co-pilot from the hospital in Benin where he was being treated for injuries.

Parliament's Transport and Public Works Committee convened an emergency session Tuesday to address the possibility that Beirut Airport could be held liable for allowing UTA to operate its service between the African country and Lebanon.

High on the agenda is compensation for families who lost loved ones, not only dear to their hearts, but also their only source of financing.

Thousands of Lebanese expatriates in Africa provide the upkeep for relatives at home, and the Lebanese who perished on Flight 141 fall into that category.

There has been speculation that Lloyds, the London-based, worldwide insurance company that had covered the plane, might not be liable to pay any compensation for the families, since the airliner might have violated civil aviation rules.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: africa; angola; benin; conspiracy; flight141; lebanon; rumor; uta141; utaflight141
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1 posted on 01/01/2004 2:18:07 AM PST by L`enn
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To: L`enn
Good find!
 
 

Owl_Eagle

”Guns Before Butter.”

2 posted on 01/01/2004 2:42:38 AM PST by End Times Sentinel ("Fire can be our servant, whether it's toasting S'mores or raining down on Charlie" –Ppl Skinner)
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To: L`enn; Angelus Errare; Coop; seamole; Shermy; Miss Marple
Good catch!
3 posted on 01/01/2004 3:21:29 AM PST by Dog (Go Eagles!!!!!)
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To: TexKat; Ragtime Cowgirl
Ping to info on plane that disappeared from Angola in May.

TK, didn't you have some exchanges of posts with the sister of the missing pilot, Padilla? IIRC her screen (and real) name is Brenda Padilla Kirkland, but it's not listed when a search is done.
4 posted on 01/01/2004 4:42:49 AM PST by windchime (Podesta about Bush: "He's got four years to try to undo all the stuff we've done." (TIME-1/22/01))
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To: L`enn
This theory has been debunked on an aviation web site I visit.
5 posted on 01/01/2004 5:00:15 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: L`enn
I posted some stuff on this the day it happened, here.

The International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO) lists the airline as being "Union Transports Africains de Guinee" in Guinea. But another ICAO listing shows it being registered in Indonesia. Wierd.

However, all the news sources I've found confirm the Lebanese-Guinean ownership, nothing mentioned about Indonesia.

Aside from that, this plane and the "missing" plane had separate registrations. However it is odd (coincidental?) that the missing plane was last spotted at the Conackry airport in Guinea, which is where the crashed plane originated.

The missing plane was purchased from American Airlines by the extremely shadowy Aerospace Sales & Leasing of Florida. I can't determined who purchased this specific plane from American Airlines, and the fact that it was run by UTA doesn't actually mean that UTA owned it, it could be leased from the actual owner. It's all very ambiguous.

In any case there's no reason to believe that this is the "missing" plane, although there are many strange and unanswered questions about both.

6 posted on 01/01/2004 5:03:44 AM PST by angkor
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To: angkor; L`enn
Thanks. I remember your post and hope we get some answers soon. That missing co-pilot is troubling.
7 posted on 01/01/2004 5:07:14 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: Arkie2
This theory has been debunked on an aviation web site I visit.

I'd agree, the planes have separate registrations, and both are accounted for as being retired from the American Airlines fleet.

However, in both cases the issues of ownership and registration are somewhat opaque and mysterious.

8 posted on 01/01/2004 5:09:51 AM PST by angkor
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To: angkor
That's typical among these fly by night airlines but doesn't imply terroristic intent. It's simply the way business has been conducted in Africa since forever. It's pretty clear ( to me anyway ) that the theft of the plane in Angola was merely a "repossesion".
9 posted on 01/01/2004 5:12:24 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: windchime
Ping to info on plane that disappeared from Angola in May.

The missing plane was last spotted at Conakry airport in Guinea in July, with a paint job underway and the registration numbers partially obscured. I believe that was the last time it was seen.

The crashed flight originated from Conakry airport.

Both planes (727-223's) had been retired from the American Airlines fleet.

10 posted on 01/01/2004 5:15:40 AM PST by angkor
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To: angkor
The 'missing plane' had the passenger seats removed and was retrofitted with bulk liquid (fuel/biochem) tanks.

Could such a retrofitted place have the capacity to haul 161 +/- passengers? Doubtful. And who would steal the plane and replace the retro tanks with--passenger seats?

I agree that this crashed flight being the 'missing plane' seems highly unlikely.

11 posted on 01/01/2004 5:17:31 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: angkor
Doesn't practically every part of a plane have a serial number?

Seems to me that a few of those numbers could nail down a history. Access to the wreckage might be the problem.

12 posted on 01/01/2004 5:18:23 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: angkor
Here's a primer on African airlines and this article discusses those in the business of carrying passengers and doesn't address the shadier operators.


The crash at Cotonou in West Africa of a Boeing 727 passenger plane belonging to a Guinea airline, piloted by a Libyan crew and without a proper flying licence, highlights problems of flying in Africa, experts say.

The Christmas Day crash in the African state of Benin killed 113 people, most of them Lebanese expatriates heading home for the holidays.

The plane, owned by Union des Transports Africains, botched its takeoff and skidded down the runway, smashing into a building before tumbling into the Gulf of Guinea.

"In these countries there is no structure for working practices or for maintaining checks on operations," said Francois Grangier, a French accident investigation specialist.

"They don't have the idea of airports as places sealed off, closed and given over totally to aeronautics," said Grangier, an Air France pilot.

"Neither is there any framework for radio communication, ie for navigation means," he said. "And there is no administration for this almost non-existent structure, only a semblance of organisation that exists solely on paper."

"Physical conditions are very tough for planes," Grangier said. "Sometimes you're landing on territory that destroys tyres, storms can be violent, corrosion is a major factor."

"But these African companies have an extremely unstable financial basis and they only want to make money, not to spend it, so it's tempting to get a hold of any old plane that can be exploited cheaply."

Pilot qualifications are yet another problem.

"The pilots are of all different nationalities because they can't find any other work," he said.

"African states don't have any pilots' schools or proper crew training facilities, so these pilots have to be trained abroad."

Thus African states end up giving the equivalent of licences or work permits to pilots with licences acquired in foreign countries, "something which a Europoean state such as France would never tolerate", Grangier noted.

Maxime Coffin, head of training and technical surveillance at France's civil aviation authority DGAC, identified problems such as obsolete fleets, pilots willing to work to lower standards and a lack of aircraft maintenance.

But Coffin insisted that flying is still the safest way to travel through Africa and denied some planes are just flying rustbuckets.

He said the norms of the International Civil Aviation Authority are more precise and kept under better surveillance than those of the International Maritime Organisation.

Unlike ships, he noted, planes cannot fly under flags of convenience. -- Sapa-
13 posted on 01/01/2004 5:20:01 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: Arkie2
the theft of the plane in Angola was merely a "repossesion".

I agree with that. But where is it now?

And - more interesting - who actually owned the plane? This Aerospace Sales & Leasing in Florida is quite the shadowy outfit. They bought two 727-223's from American for something less than $1 million each.

14 posted on 01/01/2004 5:21:48 AM PST by angkor
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To: leadpenny
;That missing co-pilot is troubling.

lulululululu All of your copilots are belong to us!!!!!

;-)
15 posted on 01/01/2004 5:35:56 AM PST by festus
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To: angkor
Sorry, I don't see any mystery here. It's just the way things are done in Africa. People used to norms of doing business in the states or Europe have no idea what goes on in Africa.
16 posted on 01/01/2004 5:35:59 AM PST by Arkie2
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To: TomGuy
And what ever happened to Mr. Padilla, the pilot? Anyone ever hear, or is he still missing?
17 posted on 01/01/2004 5:38:39 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: Vinnie
Doesn't practically every part of a plane have a serial number?

Yes, and you can track some of each and every plane's history at this site (warning, 1.5 Mbyte database):

http://www.jetphotos.net/census/listing.php?sort=model&model=B727

At the top in the blue bar, click on "A/C Model", then scroll down to 727-223(a) and look for the American Airlines planes. You'll find some brief history on both planes (and many other sold by American).

The crash plane is N862AA, the "missing" plane is one of the two purchased by Aerospace Sales (you'll see that in the notes in the rightmost field). Can't recall its reg number.

18 posted on 01/01/2004 5:39:14 AM PST by angkor
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To: festus
Your point?
19 posted on 01/01/2004 5:44:12 AM PST by leadpenny
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To: Arkie2
True, but Aerospace Sales & Leasing is in Florida, not Africa.

I've done biz in Indonesia, I know how things are done there (and elsewhere in Asia), which is why I find the UTA's ICAO country registration "Indonesia" to be interesting.

Look up GIH - UTA's official ICAO designator - here.

Maybe it's just an error?

20 posted on 01/01/2004 5:47:47 AM PST by angkor
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