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Defense Dept. is removing Corps of Engineers from Halliburton contract
USA Today ^ | 12/30/03

Posted on 12/30/2003 5:48:49 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:41:38 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The Defense Department is removing the Army Corps of Engineers from overseeing oil imports into Iraq, acting just weeks after Pentagon auditors said Halliburton — Vice President Dick Cheney's former firm — may have overcharged taxpayers under the Corps' supervision.


(Excerpt) Read more at usatoday.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: armycorpsofengineers; cheney; defdept; dod; halliburton; iraq; notbreakingnews; overcharge

1 posted on 12/30/2003 5:48:51 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Sounds like DoD wasn't impressed with the Army's project management skills. The Army COE has got to be hating this since they're more of a business than a military organization.
2 posted on 12/30/2003 5:53:48 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Bad spellers of the world untie!!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I can't make out what this article is trying to say, other than the usual cheap shot swipes at Bush and Cheney.

Seems a little trite now, considering that the auditors found no evidence of overcharging or other malfeasance by Halliburton.
3 posted on 12/30/2003 5:55:55 PM PST by Ramius
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"Halliburton — Vice President Dick Cheney's former firm —"

Why is it that USA Today is so dead set against Lady Bird Johnson's old firm?

4 posted on 12/30/2003 6:00:51 PM PST by sauropod (Excellence in Shameless Self-Promotion)
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To: Ramius
My initial impression was about the same, "breaking left news". Mad cow didn't catch on so they turn the page to a new crisis to resolve.
5 posted on 12/30/2003 6:02:37 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
the Kuwaiti oil company gouged halliburton... what should halliburton do? eat it? bunch of leftmedia crap.
6 posted on 12/30/2003 6:05:01 PM PST by glock rocks (molon labe)
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To: sauropod; glock rocks
Sheesh, they act like Dick Cheney is still running Halliburton. This is the same media that refuses to mention ANY references of Mrs. Daschle having anything to do with Boeing or the USAF's leased-tanker deal. No political agendas happening here.
7 posted on 12/30/2003 6:17:01 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Bad spellers of the world untie!!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Absolutely.

bottomfeedingleftmedia primer:

cheney=halliburton
cheney=halliburton
cheney=halliburton

lather, rinse, repeat.

... and nobody in middle America who drives a minivan has the faintest idea what dasshole's wife does for a living.

8 posted on 12/30/2003 6:28:09 PM PST by glock rocks (molon labe)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
NY Times: No Evidence of Halliburton Profiteering
A comprehensive investigation into Halliburton's multibillion-dollar contract to restore Iraq's oil infrastructure shows "no evidence of profiteering" by the Houston-based oil services company.


That's the verdict by the New York Times, which assigned its Whitewater sleuth Jeff Gerth and investigative ace Don Van Atta to lay bare all the tawdry details of how Vice President Dick Cheney's former company was reaping big-bucks profits from sweetheart deals imagined by Democrats.


One problem: Gerth and Van Atta found almost nothing for Dems to hang their hats on. In fact, not only couldn't the Times find any evidence that Halliburton was stuffing its pockets under-the-table - even the aboveboard revenue collected by the company hasn't been much to write home about.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1048320/posts
9 posted on 12/30/2003 6:52:40 PM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: Ramius
What this is "article" is trying to say is... "Halliburton — Vice President Dick Cheney's former firm — may have overcharged taxpayers"... say a lie often enough, folks will think it's true.
10 posted on 12/30/2003 7:12:36 PM PST by jungleboy
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man this connections so slow tonight I forgot what I was going to say zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz cool a knew spell button
11 posted on 12/30/2003 7:15:54 PM PST by heavenbound (so what did I say wrong)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Sounds more like an old fashioned Washington pi$$ing contest between the old defense depot folks and the army. The sad/funny thing about this is by the time the depot adds their up charge for direct overhead, technical indirect o/h and g&a the cost the government incures will be higher than it was through Halliburton.
12 posted on 12/30/2003 7:16:03 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
Sounds like DoD wasn't impressed with the Army's project management skills. The Army COE has got to be hating this since they're more of a business than a military organization.

The army COE is just about the most incompetent bunch I ever had any dealing with.

13 posted on 12/30/2003 7:16:17 PM PST by org.whodat
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To: glock rocks
Guess I won't take what you posted too personally as I live in the Midwest, drive a minivan and DO know what Little Timmy's wife does for a living. There's a big invesitigation-in-waiting there, not that the lib media will ever bother.
Stop profiling Midwestern minivan drivers, darn it! You know it's not legal! (;
14 posted on 12/30/2003 7:45:07 PM PST by mplsconservative (I'm a South Dakota native, and darned ashamed of it, well, just the Tommy Daschle part.)
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To: mplsconservative
oh my... excuse the profiling... nasty habit.

nice tagline :o)
15 posted on 12/30/2003 8:18:29 PM PST by glock rocks (molon labe)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The Democrats make a specious charge, Bush "gets hot," and the lie becomes the truth. If the media would do its job, this would have been nuked a long time ago.

http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200312190859.asp
16 posted on 12/30/2003 11:06:27 PM PST by Rastus
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
more like a government beaurocracy than a business
17 posted on 12/31/2003 4:19:38 AM PST by bobjam
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To: Rastus
Just one of the many things from that article--
"Not many people want to drive eight to fifteen days through a war zone with a truck full of flammable materials," the company says. "Three drivers have been killed and many others injured while performing this mission, and 60 vehicles have been damaged."
18 posted on 12/31/2003 6:03:57 AM PST by Bella
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To: jungleboy; Excuse_My_Bellicosity; All
Halliburton to Lose Iraq Oil Project

Dec 31, 8:40 AM (ET)
By LARRY MARGASAK

(same article)

19 posted on 12/31/2003 6:27:08 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
We do COE projects often at my place of employment. Basically you take a private project of similar scope and cost and add 50% to it to comply with the extra B.S. that the COE requires.
20 posted on 12/31/2003 6:41:29 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The Defense Energy Support Center, which buys fuel for the military throughout the world, will supervise the replacement of Halliburton and the award of a new contract for the imports, the center said Tuesday.

The headline said the COE is being replaced, not Halliburton. Someone's wishful thinking is appearing here. Perhaps they want Kucinich Wind and Solar Power Company to go to Iraq and provide power and fuel for the undertakings there.

21 posted on 12/31/2003 6:46:58 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: 17th Miss Regt
New title, same old song and dance.
22 posted on 12/31/2003 7:50:15 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: bobjam
I think the real answer here is that they are the worst of both worlds (govt. and business). The Army COE doesn't care about the warfighter, they shake down their military customers for every nickel they can (my reason for saying they're more of a business than a military organization), and they have the worst govt. red tape. It's a bad deal all around.
23 posted on 12/31/2003 9:17:34 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Bad spellers of the world untie!!)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Larry Margasak = DNC Operative
imho
24 posted on 12/31/2003 10:30:47 AM PST by jungleboy
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I have a friend that works for Halliburton. Here is the straight scoop:

The Army Corp of Engineers told Halliburton that it HAD to buy oil from only one company in Kuwait, they had no option, even if it cost twice as much. Therefore they did not overcharge anyone.

Here is the story that is not being told. Halliburton is taking casualties. Quite a few! How come no press reports?

Dead American civilians should be a story, but the leftists hate Halliburton so the loss of life of their employees is not newsworthy. As a matter of fact, has anyone seen any news stories about what Halliburton does as a company? NO. Halliburton is just portrayed as a big evil corporation, without explaining what they actually do.

God Bless the employees of Halliburton, God Bless their fallen co-workers, they are Americans too.
25 posted on 12/31/2003 7:17:00 PM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: Trteamer
I've been told the same, how valid is your source?
26 posted on 12/31/2003 7:26:58 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; Trteamer
I read the same thing in the two links above (posts 16 & 9) .. NY Times and National Review.

27 posted on 12/31/2003 8:29:44 PM PST by gitmo (Who is John Galt?)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
How valid is my source? Good question. He is a plant manager for Halliburton. He told me this on the phone yesterday afternoon.

As for more information on Halliburton here is a link:
http://www.halliburton.com/about/index.jsp
28 posted on 01/01/2004 5:46:58 AM PST by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: glock rocks
Don't forget Cheney= Union Pacific.

I hear this all the time at work. ol' hoghead

29 posted on 01/01/2004 3:12:36 PM PST by ol' hoghead
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To: ol' hoghead
yep. even though it was Lynne Cheney who had a job at Union Pacific Resources Corp.

old USA Today article

can you hear the leftmedia clammor about the junior senator from New York being WalMart incarnate?

me neither. what a load.

30 posted on 01/01/2004 3:49:53 PM PST by glock rocks (molon labe)
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