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City censors nativity scene but not menorah
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| Tuesday, December 16, 2003
Posted on 12/16/2003 3:59:12 AM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Unfortunately, in order to get around this, the city will just remove the menorahs, Kwanzaa bush, and Festivus pole instead.
}:-)4
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posted on
12/16/2003 4:49:13 AM PST
by
Moose4
("The road goes on forever, and the party never ends." --Robert Earl Keen)
To: JohnHuang2
Just one more example of how Christains only ask for inclusion - it's the "others" (imagine some horror flick suspense music) that are always trying to stop someone from exercising their rights.
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posted on
12/16/2003 4:52:20 AM PST
by
trebb
To: trebb
Just one more example of how Christains only ask for inclusion... "Only" is a bit overstated - Roy Moore denied inclusion for others who asked to put displays alongside his, for example. So the non-inclusiveness thing is not something unique to non-Christians. Be that as it may, it's clearly the right thing to do to allow this display along with the others.
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posted on
12/16/2003 5:05:55 AM PST
by
general_re
(Knife goes in, guts come out! That's what Osaka Food Concern is all about!)
To: hellinahandcart
And you think i'm too sensitive about this...
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posted on
12/16/2003 7:46:04 AM PST
by
sauropod
("We got him.")
To: Moose4
They will have to best me in a feat of strength to remove the Festivus pole.
No easy task. ;)
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posted on
12/16/2003 7:48:17 AM PST
by
Eris
To: Moose4
a Festivus for the rest of us...
(now where did I put that pole?)
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posted on
12/16/2003 7:50:28 AM PST
by
ZinGirl
To: general_re
Last I checked the 10 Commandments are inclusive of at least 3 world religions, Judaism, Islam & Christianity. Hardly exclusive or an establisment of religion.
To: AnalogReigns
Hardly exclusive... Unless you happen to be one of the four billion people who aren't Jewish, Christian, or Muslim. BTW, the Catholic version of the Decalogue differs slightly from the Protestant version - guess which version Roy chose?
If you said "the version that comports with his personal beliefs," give yourself a prize ;)
...or an establisment of religion.
It became one the instant Roy Moore refused to allow others the freedom to express their own views in a similar manner. The state, in the form of Roy Moore, has no business restricting the public forum to one favored viewpoint.
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posted on
12/16/2003 8:17:33 AM PST
by
general_re
(Knife goes in, guts come out! That's what Osaka Food Concern is all about!)
To: AnalogReigns; All
Hannukkah is not even that big of a holiday in the Jewish faith, but Christmas which is the celebration of the birth of our Lord and Saviour is I am sure deemed offensive.
Living in Florida most of the residents in Palm Beach County are Jewish and over 65, they have no idea about there own faith or how Christianity derived from it they don not know who Jesus is and why he was even here, Dimentia sets in and you become old anc crotchy YUK! Thank G-d I live in a community of Jews and Gentile Christians where we all embrace the two faiths as honor to our living G-d and his son.
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posted on
12/16/2003 9:12:47 AM PST
by
missyme
To: JohnHuang2
Next thing you know, the atheists will be demanding that "under God" be removed from the Pledge.
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posted on
12/16/2003 9:15:20 AM PST
by
Hacksaw
(theocratic Confederate flag waving loyalty oath supporter)
To: JohnHuang2
Gramsciites.
This is a double. Christianity is attacked and anti-Semitism is promoted by leftists!
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posted on
12/16/2003 9:25:05 AM PST
by
rmlew
(Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
To: JohnHuang2
A Christian nation cut off from its own festivals and then told it must also be inclusive of
non Christians as they try to exclude and expell God and His Son from the nation they founded..and...on the Son's birthday celebration...aka the salvation of mankind from eternal death...
satan never sleeps...
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posted on
12/16/2003 1:53:39 PM PST
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: joesnuffy
96% of the nation celebrates Christmas.
To: JohnHuang2; All
Principal Kicks Nativity Scene Out Of School A controversy over holiday decorations at a school in Montgomery County continues over the removal of a nativity scene where other holiday displays were allowed to remain.
There's a Christmas tree in the lobby of Horsham's Dorothea Simmons Elementary School, along with a Menorah and items representing Kwanzaa.
Around the corner, a holiday display is complete just in time for the school's first holiday concert in 12 years.
But there's a problem, because the decorations originally included a nativity scene.
A committee of parents showed it to the principal. She asked them to remove the nativity scene.
"I thought that it went over the top and overboard," said Principal Karen Davis. "I thought it was especially inappropriate for a public school."
Some parents don't agree, especially since the principal didn't change the Kwanzaa or Hanukkah sections.
"I don't see why it had to be taken down, if you are an atheist or whatever you are," said Carol Stevens. "It's a part of life, a part of history."
Davis said Kwanzaa isn't a religious holiday and the Menorah is much of a cultural symbol as it is a religious symbol.
"Judaism is not just a religion, it's a culture, also," Davis said. "I felt that the nativity scene was definitely promoting Christianity."
Dawn Reynolds's son attends the school and she agrees with the decision.
"It shouldn't necessarily be in the school if you don't go to a Catholic school," Reynolds said.
Officials said the school's superintendent will be meeting with parents to discuss their concerns and talk about what is the best way to represent all the different traditions during the holiday season.
Have a happy chanukwanzmas!
To: JohnHuang2
The Democrats and the godless left march relentlessly onward in their quest to destroy traditional America and its families. Thank God for organizations like the Thomas More Law Center. Even when they fail, they at least succeed in exposing corrupt and/or spineless judges and courts.
To: new cruelty
Looks like 95%+ white Horsham School District felt a need to "diversify" and so they apparently brought in some failed teacher from Philadelphia to be the school principal. It is no surprise whatsoever that she has decided to reject the traditional nativity scene. Horsham is getting exactly what it deserves. Sorry.
Hey, Horsham - - Happy Kwanzaa.
HAHAHA hahaaaaaa....!
To: Eris
call me if you need a show of force!
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posted on
12/17/2003 8:43:10 PM PST
by
breakem
To: AnalogReigns
I posit that a commandment forbidding the worshiping of false gods is the establishment of a religion to the exclusion of other beliefs.
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posted on
12/17/2003 8:44:32 PM PST
by
breakem
To: mrustow
You might find this thread interesting.
Please check out post #15.
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