Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Iraqis Want Saddam Tried in Baghdad-Death Penalty Should Not be Included-Human Rights Watch
AP | 12/14/03 | SLOBODAN LEKIC

Posted on 12/14/2003 2:19:09 PM PST by kattracks

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Dec 14, 2003 (AP Online via COMTEX) -- The interim Iraqi government said Sunday it wants to try Saddam Hussein before a special tribunal, but a human rights group voiced deep concern about the legitimacy of the newly established panel. The United States reserved judgment.

Iraq's new leaders want Saddam to face the tribunal they established last week specifically to hear cases involving leading members of the Saddam regime accused of genocide and other crimes against humanity.

"We will deal with Saddam Hussein," said Adnan Pachachi, a member of the 25-seat interim Governing Council. "He was an unjust ruler responsible for the deaths of thousands of people."

Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the top U.S. military commander in Iraq, said the American-led coalition must still decide on Saddam's status.

"At this point, that has not been determined. We continue to process Saddam at this point in time, and those issues will be resolved in the near future," Sanchez told reporters at the coalition's Baghdad headquarters.

Before Saddam's capture, top U.S. officials in Baghdad had privately acknowledged the former dictator likely would be handed over to the new Iraqi government to stand trial.

Amnesty International, however, criticized the new Iraqi tribunal as flawed. It demanded that Saddam - as commander in chief of Iraq's armed forces - be classified as a prisoner of war.

The legal codes for the new, five-judge tribunal, were based on international law, including existing U.N. war crimes tribunals - such as those for Rwanda and the former Yugoslavia - and those used by the International Criminal Court.

The newly established tribunal is expected try cases stemming from mass executions of Iraqi Kurds in the 1980s, as well as the suppression of uprisings by Kurds and Shiite Muslims soon after the 1991 Gulf War.

It also will try cases committed against Iran - Iraq's enemy in a bloody 1980-88 war - and against Kuwait, which Iraq invaded in 1990, sparking the Gulf War.

The Governing Council decree establishing the tribunal left a final decision on using the death penalty to a transitional government scheduled to assume full sovereignty by July 1.

"Saddam will stand a public trial so that the Iraqi people will know his crimes," said Ahmad Chalabi, another member of the Governing Council.

Human rights activists also welcomed Saddam's arrest because of accusations he committed gross human rights violations, including war crimes and crimes against humanity.

"But like any other criminal suspect he is entitled to all relevant safeguards under international law, including the right not to be subjected to torture or ill-treatment, and of course the right to receive a fair trial, a defense lawyer and the minimum safeguards as any other prisoner," said Nicole Shoueiry, a spokeswoman for London-based Amnesty International.

She noted that as Iraq's president, Saddam also had been commander in chief of the military and should therefore be afforded the status a prisoner of war and given prompt access to the international Red Cross.

Human rights groups cautioned that the Iraqi decree establishing the new tribunal was fundamentally flawed because it was proclaimed by an unelected body and without consultation with the Iraqi people or the international community.

Activists also said the decree did not ensure that guilt must be proven beyond reasonable doubt.

"Another concern is the death penalty," Shoueiry said. "He should be punished for his crimes, but the death penalty is not included. That goes without saying."

Like other human rights groups, Amnesty International is vehemently opposed to capital punishment, and has repeatedly called for the abolition of the death penalty throughout the world.

New York-based Human Rights Watch also warned that the new tribunal law lacked key provisions to ensure legitimate and credible trials.

It also said the authorities must not be allowed to mount a political show trial, adding that foreign prosecutors and investigative judges should be called in because the Iraqi judicial system lacked experience in organizing trials "lasting more than a few days."

"It's ... important that the trial is not perceived as vengeful justice," said Kenneth Roth, the group's executive director.

By SLOBODAN LEKIC Associated Press Writer



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antideathpenalty; cartbeforethehorse; deathpenalty; deathsquads; dictator; gassedkurds; iraqijustice; killedchildren; murder; nodeathpenalty; punishment; saddam; saddamcaptured; saddamhussein; saddamites; saddamontrial; saddamtrial; topplesaddam; torture; warcrimes; warcrimestribunal
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-56 next last

1 posted on 12/14/2003 2:19:15 PM PST by kattracks
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: kattracks
"Another concern is the death penalty," Shoueiry said. "He should be punished for his crimes, but the death penalty is not included. That goes without saying."

Earth to Nicole, it's not your call.

2 posted on 12/14/2003 2:21:23 PM PST by dighton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kattracks
I agree they should not execute Saddam. Not until everyone who has lost family members or has been tortured in his chambers has the opportunity to personally repay him.
3 posted on 12/14/2003 2:23:09 PM PST by gitmo (Who is John Galt?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kattracks
Wow, I'm so surprised...
4 posted on 12/14/2003 2:23:56 PM PST by Guillermo (Shoot me if you ever see me on a Kobe Bryant, Michael Jackson or Scott Peterson thread)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gitmo
I like the way you think.
5 posted on 12/14/2003 2:24:06 PM PST by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: kattracks
Pathetic aren't they.

6 posted on 12/14/2003 2:24:13 PM PST by tet68
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gitmo
Put him in the center of town in a cage (guarded of coarse) and let the Iraqi people have at him. He'll be begging for death
7 posted on 12/14/2003 2:25:10 PM PST by boxerblues (If you can read this.. Thank a Teacher..If you can read this in English ..Thank a US Soldier)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: kattracks
Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International: 1) are not governments; 2) did nothing to liberate Iraq; 3) are complaining about trivia; 4) have no right to say whether or not the death penalty is applied; 5) have no standing to say that the current process or interim government is [il]legitimate.

In short, those orgs should retreat to their plush-carpeted offices and fund-raisers.
8 posted on 12/14/2003 2:25:16 PM PST by Tax Government
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kattracks
And so it begins...
9 posted on 12/14/2003 2:26:50 PM PST by CindyDawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: boxerblues
The waiting line would stretch to Kuwait.
10 posted on 12/14/2003 2:28:45 PM PST by gitmo (Who is John Galt?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: kattracks
"It's ... important that the trial is not perceived as vengeful justice," said Kenneth Roth, the group's executive director.

.....and the reason for this would be....................?

11 posted on 12/14/2003 2:28:59 PM PST by EggsAckley
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kattracks
This is so ridiculous it reads like satire. Some of these people are seriously deranged.
12 posted on 12/14/2003 2:29:58 PM PST by Route66 (America's Mainstreet)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: gitmo
The waiting line would stretch to Kuwait.

Sell tickets..longest running show in Baghdad
13 posted on 12/14/2003 2:30:18 PM PST by boxerblues (If you can read this.. Thank a Teacher..If you can read this in English ..Thank a US Soldier)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: dighton
Okay, so don't execute him. How about skinning him alive for beginners?

How about dangling his arms in that plastic shredding machine his son was fond of?

14 posted on 12/14/2003 2:30:24 PM PST by DCPatriot
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: kattracks
"Another concern is the death penalty,"

There is no death penalty in the new Iraq. An exception would have to made for Saddam and I don't see that happening.

15 posted on 12/14/2003 2:31:11 PM PST by NEPA
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: All

16 posted on 12/14/2003 2:31:14 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kattracks
Here's hoping that Saddam get's the hangman's noose and AI is told to bugger-off!
17 posted on 12/14/2003 2:33:03 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kattracks
The freaks in Amn. Int'l want him kept alive so that he can continue to foment more death and destruction from his cell.
18 posted on 12/14/2003 2:35:08 PM PST by Salvey
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kattracks
"Another concern is the death penalty," Shoueiry said. "He should be punished for his crimes, but the death penalty is not included. That goes without saying."

How ya gonna make us, Shoueiry? How many divisions do you have?

To answer for the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, Kuwaitis and Kurds butchered by orders from this man, death by execution can be the only way to make him pay for his crimes.

19 posted on 12/14/2003 2:35:40 PM PST by woofer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kattracks
I am surprised that Peta is not taking up Saddam's
part as he is inhuman.
20 posted on 12/14/2003 2:36:07 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Hillary Al-Muscovy (If it waddles like a Russian duck, Quacks like a Russian duck etc))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-56 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson