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Hillary Rodham Clinton's Disloyal Opposition
Insight Magazine ^
| 10 December 2003
| Kenneth R. Timmerman
Posted on 12/12/2003 4:49:54 PM PST by Lando Lincoln
Former Clinton White House adviser Dick Morris called it Hillary's "badwill tour of Iraq." Certainly Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's grousing to the troops brought no wild cheers, unlike the scene when President George W. Bush showed up unannounced on Thanksgiving Day to serve turkey to servicemen and women on combat duty in Baghdad. According to some reports, she is so unpopular among the armed forces that her Pentagon minders had to assign soldiers to greet her.
The former first lady, touted by many Democrats as their best hope at wresting the presidency from Bush in 2004, insisted that she had come to Baghdad to tell the troops that "Americans are proud" of them. But, she added, back home "many question the administration's policies." Then she launched into a personal attack on the president for having been "obsessed with Saddam Hussein for more than a decade." It was not exactly what you'd call a morale booster, and the troops hated it.
Al-Jazeera, the Qatar government's own jihad TV network, broadcast her remarks immediately in Arabic translation. To our enemies, the propaganda value of having a member of the U.S. Senate, who sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee, come to a war zone to criticize her president and express doubts about the leadership of the U.S. military was crystal clear. Al-Jazeera also gave prominent play to comments by her companion, fellow Democratic Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island, who opined that the administration's justification for the war was "tenuous at best" and that Americans "could look back and see the decision to attack Iraq was one that ended up being very, very costly."
Former police captain Anwar Ibrahim is Iraq's deputy minister of interior. Asked about earlier blasts against the president and the U.S.-led reconstruction effort by Democratic presidential contenders back in the United States, he told former New York City police commissioner Bernard Kerik that the Democrats would do better to keep their mouths shut. "Our enemies all have satellite television and they are watching," Kerik recalls Ibrahim saying. "When they hear this kind of thing, they think they are winning." Such delusions cost American lives.
Kerik, who recruited Ibrahim to head up the effort to build a new Iraqi police department to fight the Ba'ath Party remnants on the ground, sharply criticized Congress for politicizing the postwar efforts. Every day Congress debated whether to consider the $20 billion for Iraqi reconstruction a loan or a grant spawned new U.S. casualties on the ground, he said, by delaying the training of new Iraqi recruits. "We lost at least eight weeks of training - that's 3,000 recruits," he told an audience at the American Enterprise Institute.
Kerik recalled taking visiting NBC News anchor Tom Brokaw on a nighttime tour of downtown Baghdad at a time when U.S. TV networks were portraying the Iraqi capital as a nightmare of looting and lawlessness and where U.S. troops were sitting targets. Instead, Kerik says, they drove down street after street lined with refrigerators, air conditioners and other merchandise for sale with no guards and no looters anywhere in site. "In the U.S., what we don't hear is the successes of our people in fighting the Ba'athists," he said. "It is essential for the American people to know that we are not losing the battle; we are winning it."
So were Sens. Clinton and Reed aiding and abetting the enemy in a replay of actress Jane Fonda's infamous "Hanoi Jane" stunt at the peak of the Vietnam War? Not so fast, says lawyer and author Henry Mark Holzer, who has written a book on Fonda's exploits during the Vietnam War and published a recent monograph, "Why Not Call It Treason?"
What the former first lady did in Baghdad "may be comfort to the enemy, but it's not treason," he tells Insight. There have been no treason prosecutions in the United States since the World War II era trials of broadcasters Tokyo Rose and Axis Sally. "Nobody has been charged with treason since," Holzer points out, "not even Aldrich Ames or John Walker Lindh," the U.S. Taliban recruit whom Holzer called "a poster boy for treason."
Clinton's trip to Baghdad "was a bit like a U.S. senator going to Omaha Beach just after D-Day and attacking President [Franklin D.] Roosevelt and the war effort," Holzer says. "It was typically Clintonesque. It was overtly political, it was disloyal and it was pathetic. But it was not treason." For stunts such as hers, the only possible remedy is at the ballot box. "It's the price we pay for the First Amendment," he says.
Kenneth R. Timmerman is a senior writer for Insight magazine.
For more on this story, read "When Does Politics Become Treason?"
TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: democrats; hillary; kennethrtimmerman; tokyohillary
Lando
To: Lando Lincoln
Hillary Rotten Clinton
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posted on
12/12/2003 4:54:43 PM PST
by
My2Cents
("Well....there you go again...")
To: Lando Lincoln
I think Im gonna hurl.....
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posted on
12/12/2003 4:57:12 PM PST
by
mylife
To: Lando Lincoln
Henceforth, to me, she is: "BAGHDAD HILLARY"
To: Lando Lincoln
It IS treason.
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:00:15 PM PST
by
Young Rhino
(http://www.artofdivorce.com)
To: Lando Lincoln
Al Quata would vote for Hillary in 2004. They supported her senate run.
Muslims have already decided to vote in block for a Democrat. They're the only way the terrorists could win the war.
To: Joe Marine 76
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:04:03 PM PST
by
My2Cents
("Well....there you go again...")
Comment #8 Removed by Moderator
To: Joe Marine 76
"BAGHDAD HILLARY Well, Close. You did clean it up, we all know what the second word SHOULD be!
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:04:45 PM PST
by
ladyinred
(If all the world's a stage, I want to operate the trap door!)
To: My2Cents
Check out that soldier on the left in the second photo down, looking at Hillary. Is that "distain" I see?
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:05:07 PM PST
by
My2Cents
("Well....there you go again...")
To: Lando Lincoln
As a former army communications specialist, hillery can go to haides.
To: Lando Lincoln
From the article:
'Al-Jazeera, the Qatar government's own jihad TV network, broadcast her remarks immediately in Arabic translation. To our enemies, the propaganda value of having a member of the U.S. Senate, who sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee, come to a war zone to criticize her president and express doubts about the leadership of the U.S. military was crystal clear.
Al-Jazeera also gave prominent play to comments by her companion, fellow Democratic Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island, who opined that the administration's justification for the war was "tenuous at best" and that Americans "could look back and see the decision to attack Iraq was one that ended up being very, very costly."'
Kinda says it all, IMHO.
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:10:59 PM PST
by
BenLurkin
(Socialism is Slavery)
To: Lando Lincoln
the Democrats would do better to keep their mouths shut. "Our enemies all have satellite television and they are watching," Kerik recalls Ibrahim saying. "When they hear this kind of thing, they think they are winning." Such delusions cost American lives.You'd think they would have learned from the 60's, but then they just hate America and especially it's military so they don't care if it costs any lives.
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:18:22 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(Reading taglines makes you stupid.)
To: Lando Lincoln
But it was not treason." For stunts such as hers, the only possible remedy is at the ballot box. "It's the price we pay for the First Amendment," he says.
First amendment? What's that?
Can't tell anyone what she's done within 60 days of an election, anyway.
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:19:38 PM PST
by
xzins
(Retired Army and Proud of It!)
To: Lando Lincoln
Former police captain Anwar Ibrahim is Iraq's deputy minister of interior. Asked about earlier blasts against the president and the U.S.-led reconstruction effort by Democratic presidential contenders back in the United States, he told former New York City police commissioner Bernard Kerik that
the Democrats would do better to keep their mouths shut.
"Our enemies all have satellite television and they are watching," Kerik recalls Ibrahim saying. "When they hear this kind of thing, they think they are winning." Such delusions cost American lives. I'm sorry, Mr. lawyer and author Henry Mark Holzer, I call it TREASON. Hillary Clinton, any Democrat, or Republican that puts their career above the lives of American service people, by their actions or their words, in a time of military action or not, are performing treason.
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:21:26 PM PST
by
malia
(BUSH/CHENEY '04 *A Cherished Constitutional right - the right to vote and have it counted - once.)
To: My2Cents
Great montage. Downloaded it for cyberposterity.
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:23:36 PM PST
by
JusPasenThru
(A man's happiness lies in his ability to develop a taste for grey hair and wrinkles.)
To: Lando Lincoln
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:24:04 PM PST
by
putupon
(Warning: Posted by Professional Bushbot Baiter.)
To: Lando Lincoln
For several months now, the democrats have cornered the market on stupid decisions. I salute them for their consistency.
To: My2Cents
bump for great picture
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:29:14 PM PST
by
perfect stranger
(No tag line today. Tag line yesterday, tag line tomorrow, but no tag line today.)
To: putupon
Store this image for a later nightmare.(Santa "with Hilllary" allegory)
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:30:04 PM PST
by
BenLurkin
(Socialism is Slavery)
To: Lando Lincoln; jmstein7
And did they remember to give the soldiers assigned to her blindfolds and earplugs? That is only fair!
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:33:41 PM PST
by
Mich0127
To: Lando Lincoln
" New York City police commissioner Bernard Kerik that the Democrats would do better to keep their mouths shut. "Our enemies all have satellite television and they are watching," Kerik recalls Ibrahim saying. "When they hear this kind of thing, they think they are winning." Such delusions cost American lives."
Hadji Hillary and her treasonous Democrat consorts encourage the terrorists to plant IEDs on the roads and shoot RPGs into Humvees. When Hadji Hillary goes to Walter Reed,the amputees should shun her.
To: My2Cents
Only too happy to give aid and comfort to our enemies. We expected nothing less from her heinous.
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:40:38 PM PST
by
OldFriend
(DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
Comment #24 Removed by Moderator
To: Lando Lincoln
Thanks for posting a good article. My only comment about Hillary Clinton: Be afraid, Folks. Be very afraid. Just because a majority of the country probably would never vote for her for president does NOT mean she won't become president. 2008 is a long way off, and the cleverness and treachery the Clintons are capable of is highly underestimated...imho.
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:46:02 PM PST
by
Maria S
("…the end is near…this time, Americans are serious; Bush is not like Clinton." Uday Hussein 4/9/03)
To: Lando Lincoln
ANKLE Alert!
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:46:48 PM PST
by
11B3
(Liberalism is merely another form of mental retardation.)
To: Lando Lincoln
I sure wish Hillary would just shut her ugly gob.
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:50:18 PM PST
by
Bullish
To: atramentous_conservative
I agree that it would be best to ignore her. The conservative pundits hyperventilate over her every word and by talking about whether or not she is running for president, they give the very idea credibility.
IMO this is totally counterproductive and such suggestions should be met with laughter and ridicule instead of seriousness.
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:55:29 PM PST
by
OldFriend
(DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
To: Lando Lincoln
So has anyone called their Senator demanding that she be at the very least censured?
To: Maria S
and the cleverness and treachery the Clintons are capable of is highly underestimated...imho. You mean like the "cleverness and treachery" that has already cost their party control of the house AND the Senate, let alone Al Gore NOT succeeding in the white house?
The clintons are totally over rated in American politics.
They're losers and neither one will ever be elected to anything ever again.
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posted on
12/12/2003 5:58:08 PM PST
by
Bullish
To: Lando Lincoln
... they drove down street after street lined with refrigerators, air conditioners and other merchandise for sale with no guards and no looters anywhere in site. in sight... insight?
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posted on
12/12/2003 6:01:22 PM PST
by
SteveH
To: Lando Lincoln
bump
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posted on
12/12/2003 6:08:37 PM PST
by
Roberts
To: Bullish
"They're losers and neither one will ever be elected to anything ever again."
I sincerely hope you're right about the being elected again part! I just meant by the 'cleverness and treachery' that they will find ways to get votes counted (when the votes don't actually exist).
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posted on
12/12/2003 6:14:19 PM PST
by
Maria S
("…the end is near…this time, Americans are serious; Bush is not like Clinton." Uday Hussein 4/9/03)
To: My2Cents
Yuk. She turns my stomach every which way but lose. She can go visit troops from here to eternity...they will all still feel the same way we all do. Disgust and disrespect for her altogether.
George W. Bush received, cheers, tears, smiles, roars, just plain happiness because they know he is genuine. They know he cares.
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posted on
12/12/2003 6:36:11 PM PST
by
cubreporter
(I trust Rush...he will prevail in spite of the naysayers)
To: Lando Lincoln
Bitch!
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posted on
12/12/2003 6:51:38 PM PST
by
shiva
To: Lando Lincoln
|
Missus clinton's Sunday-Circuit, Pink-Suited Panic
- by Mia T, December 7, 2003
issus clinton failed to notice: 'living history' begets a certain symmetry. How fitting it is that the clintons were forced to reveal their inept and treasonous hand on this day, exactly 62 years after the attack on Pearl Harbor.
One can only surmise from hillary clinton's Sunday-Circuit, pink-suited panic that clinton in-house polling has the missus out-polling Jane Fonda for the Tokyo-Rose prize. (Incidentally, someone ought to clue in her dresser: exculpation-by-pink-suit can work only once; notwithstanding, a treasonous middle-aged matron in a pink suit reads: "dowdy treasonous middle-aged matron in pink suit." Nothing more... nothing less....) COZY-CLINTONOID-INTERVIEWS-OF-THE-COLMES-KIND FREQUENCY MODULATION It is common knowledge that missus clinton limits the frequency, intensity and content of her cozy clintonoid interviews of the Colmes kind. Tim Russert's (Meet the Press, NBC) stomach-turning HILLARY 2004! boosterism and nonexistent follow-ups ("And why do you suppose there aren't enough troops to fight a war, missus CLINTON?") made it clear that she had the latter two -- intensity and content -- covered today. It was frequency that did her in. Tokyo Rose also aided and abetted our enemies by using psychological warfare designed to lower the morale of our troops; and she was convicted of treason. One could easily argue that clinton's betrayal, because it is ultimately self-serving, is an even greater iniquity. And then, of course, there are the clintons' other treasonous acts....
Russert, therefore, was not only on the wrong page. He was in the wrong book. The question isn't, "Who in his right mind would ever want the clintons back in the Oval Office?" The question is,-- "Who in his right mind would want the seditious, America-undermining clintons unconfined?"
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posted on
12/12/2003 6:56:19 PM PST
by
Mia T
(Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
To: Lando Lincoln; My2Cents; mylife; Joe Marine 76; Young Rhino; ladyinred; BenLurkin; Joe Boucher; ...
NEVER FORGET
...Since HILLARY Diane RODHAM aided and abetted our then No. 1 Terrorist Enemy HO CHI MINH during the Vietnam War...
...just like she and WILLIAM Jefferson CLINTON also aided and abeted our now No. 1 Terrorist Enemy OSAMA bin LADEN during the 1990's when they refused 3 Free Offers from the Sudan to give him to us 3 times...
.."IS it SAFE?" = HILLARY on Senate Armed Services Committee..
http://www.TheAlamoFILM.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=629 NEVER FORGET
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posted on
12/12/2003 7:20:45 PM PST
by
ALOHA RONNIE
(Vet-Battle of IA DRANG-1965 www.LZXRAY.com)
To: Lando Lincoln
"she is so unpopular among the armed forces that her Pentagon minders had to assign soldiers to greet her"
I guess that statement explains the new allegations about the President's trip. It seems there are new "rumors" going around that the soldiers were "selected". Typical Hillary comback to smear Bush and try to cover the ugliness of her own trip.
However .. we know from our own soldiers on this thread, that an email was sent to those soliders who were eligible to attend .. and it was up to the soldier to respond to the inviation (even though they didn't know the inviation was to actually see the President).
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posted on
12/12/2003 10:34:27 PM PST
by
CyberAnt
(America .. the LIGHT of the World)
To: Lando Lincoln
Al-Jazeera, the Qatar government's own jihad TV network, broadcast her remarks immediately in Arabic translation. To our enemies, the propaganda value of having a member of the U.S. Senate, who sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee, come to a war zone to criticize her president and express doubts about the leadership of the U.S. military was crystal clear. She's a treasonous POS just like her husband. In other news; the sun will rise in the east this morning.
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posted on
12/12/2003 11:23:08 PM PST
by
TigersEye
("Where there is life there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
To: cubreporter
George W. Bush received, cheers, tears, smiles, roars, just plain happiness because they know he is genuine.The troops love W because they know that W loves them.
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posted on
12/13/2003 9:41:10 AM PST
by
My2Cents
("Well....there you go again...")
To: My2Cents
Your 2 cents is the truth...plain and simple.
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posted on
12/13/2003 6:15:23 PM PST
by
cubreporter
(I trust Rush...he will prevail in spite of the naysayers)
To: Lando Lincoln
"But, she added, back home "many question the administration's policies." Then she launched into a personal attack on the president for having been "obsessed with Saddam Hussein for more than a decade." It was not exactly what you'd call a morale booster, and the troops hated it."
But, Saddam's troops loved it.
And that's all Hillary cared about.
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posted on
12/13/2003 9:52:58 PM PST
by
Joy Angela
(Hillary's Angry and Unstable...and She's getting ready to blow!!!)
To: My2Cents
"The troops seemed to appreciate seeing myself." -Hillary
Now I KNOW she's reading Mein Kampf.
She talks just like Hitler.
Makes no sense at all, but the evil
oozes out between the lines.
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posted on
12/13/2003 9:55:45 PM PST
by
Joy Angela
(Hillary's Angry and Unstable...and She's getting ready to blow!!!)
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