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Germany's "Peace" Movement Actively and Openly Supporting Iraqi Terrorism
David's Medienkritik ^ | 12/12/03 | Raymond Drake

Posted on 12/12/2003 2:52:04 PM PST by eabinga

By Raymond Drake

Just when you thought the German "peace" movement couldn't get much more hypocritical they take things to a whole new level. Last week the unbelievable lack of protest at the German government's plutonium and arms deal with Communist China made it seem as the peace freaks had all rolled up into a big ball for a long winter hibernation.

Not so! The German TV news program "Panorama" uncovered some of the wonderful activities that particularly dedicated cadres of the German peace movement are currently engaged in. In the spirit of peace, a number of groups have started a fund-raising campaign entitled "10 Euros for the Iraqi Resistance". The money will be provided to the Iraqi Patriotic Alliance (IPA) a group dedicated to carrying out attacks against US soldiers in Iraq in collaboration with Saddam loyalists. The common goal is to "liberate" the Iraqi people from the evil imperialist American occupiers. On their website these groups gush with enthusiasm about turning Iraq into another Vietnam for the USA.

Don't you just love peace?

Excerpts from the Panorama report:

Joachim Guilliard from Heidelberg is a "peace" activist who actively supports the armed resistance in Iraq. Joachim Guilliard (anti-war forum in Heidelberg, Germany): "Resistance, also military resistance against the occupiers is naturally legitimate. This has no relation to terrorism."

At home, Joachim Guilliard openly calls for the support of underground fighters because of their supposed "right to resistance." Guilliard: "I think the peace movement should stand for exactly this right of the Iraqis that I hold to be reasonable to inflict the necessary losses on the occupation troops."

Commentary: Dead Americans, cheering Iraqis. Victims of the "Resistance fighters."

For this type of resistance the German war opponents have even started a funds drive in several cities. "Ten Euro for the Iraqi people in resistance." Yesterday they collected in Duisburg.

Commentary:

The campaign is clearly having success. The shady transfer of the money to the Iraqi resistance is also already planned.

Thomas Zmrzly (war opponent) "Yes, it could be very dangerous. We are collecting the money to support the Iraqi people in resistance in their legitimate fight against the occupation. We want to send a delegation to Iraq next year, but we know how dangerous such a delegation would be."

Interviewer: "Where is the money going that the students are donating?"

Henning von Stoltzenberg: (war opponent) "The contact partner in Iraq is the Iraqi Patriotic Alliance, a coaltion of all political spectrums in the Iraqi society."

Commentary: The Patriotic Alliance shows what it does on camera: Terror attacks. With regard to this Patriotic Alliance you are at the right address if you are in favor of killing Americans. The Alliance's fighters are proud of their attacks.

Leading functionaries of the Patriotic alliance make appearances in Germany completely uninhibited. Together with Saddam Hussein they founded the Baath party...now they are organizing attacks.

The members of Saddam Hussein's Baath Party are profiting from the Euros donated by the German peace activists - with the knowledge of the Germans.

Jocahim Guilliard: "I think when one supports the resistance I would not tell them who they then work with. So I would support it if the Patriotic Alliance worked together with the Baathists."

Commentary: German leftists are working together with Saddam's partners? Even Iraq's far left has the slightest understanding or tolerance for that.

Rashid Ghwielib: (Communist Party of Iraq) "To be against the occupation does not mean that you can support these criminal attacks, the so-called resistance in Iraq."

Commentary: But such criticism finds no takers with some peace groups.

Peace Activist: "I support the Iraqi resistance even if it is run by people who used to support Saddam Hussein... I have nothing against that."



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany
KEYWORDS: iraq; jihadineurope; peaceniks
Update: This is the address of the German "peace" activists who collect money for Saddam's terrorists:
Friedensladen im EWZ, Karlstor 1,
69115 Heidelberg, GERMANY
Telephone: (calling within Germany): 06221/978927,
Telephone (if calling from the USA): 011-49-6221-978927
Fax: (within Germany) 06221/168995, Fax (from the USA): 011-49-6221-168995
E-Mail: kontakt@antikriegsforum-heidelberg.de
Web-page: http://www.antikriegsforum-heidelberg.de/
1 posted on 12/12/2003 2:52:04 PM PST by eabinga
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To: eabinga
Then they are supporting mass murder and torture and rape and NOT PEACE!
2 posted on 12/12/2003 2:53:47 PM PST by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary? Me Neither!!!!)
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To: eabinga
I am shocked, I tell ya, SHOCKED!

The Federal Chief Prosecutor should visit them - with a search warrant!
3 posted on 12/12/2003 2:57:07 PM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: buffyt
That's basically it as I see it too. If they support terrorism, then they cannot also be supporting peace. Kind like drinking whiskey and saying you support prohibition.
4 posted on 12/12/2003 2:58:12 PM PST by Enterprise
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To: eabinga
bump
5 posted on 12/12/2003 2:59:31 PM PST by VOA
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To: eabinga
And they call themselves PEACE Activists?
6 posted on 12/12/2003 3:01:48 PM PST by expatpat
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To: eabinga
German "peace' movements are like American peace movements.
7 posted on 12/12/2003 3:01:59 PM PST by caisson71
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To: All
Links of Interest:


FAZ.com - FRANKFURTER ALLGEMEINE ZEITUNG (English Version): "SUSPECTED ISLAMISTS TARGETED IN 13 STATES" (December 12, 2003) (Read More)

SKY.com - SKY NEWS: "SEPTEMBER 11 SUSPECT FREED" (December 11, 2003) (Read More...)

8 posted on 12/12/2003 3:14:03 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Michael81Dus
"The Federal Chief Prosecutor should visit them - with a search warrant!"

Or a small group of special operators with muffled MP5s.
9 posted on 12/12/2003 3:56:15 PM PST by Levante
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To: All
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1038286/posts

"Hamburg (Germany): Germans free Al Qaeda suspect Mzoudi
http://www.faz.net/s/Rub28FC768942F34C5B8297CC6E16FFC8B4/Doc~ECD5FAED0ED164D3AB7F9A73A39D22416~ATpl~Ecommon~Scontent.html ^"

Posted on 12/11/2003 4:04:53 AM PST by anotherGerman

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1038925/posts

"Suspected Islamists targeted in 13 (German) states"
Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (Germany) ^ | 12/12/03


Posted on 12/11/2003 10:39:46 PM PST by Pokey78
10 posted on 12/12/2003 4:03:13 PM PST by Cindy
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To: eabinga
Give them a reconstruction Contract!
11 posted on 12/12/2003 4:06:47 PM PST by Guillermo (It's tough being a Miami Dolphins fan)
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To: Levante
Make that a LARGE group.
12 posted on 12/12/2003 4:18:07 PM PST by Senormechanico ("Face piles of trials with smiles...it riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave.)
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To: eabinga; David Hunter
Stories like this make me regret that WWII in Europe ended before atomic weapons could be dropped on Germany.
13 posted on 12/12/2003 4:44:55 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: eabinga
These terror aiders and abetters need to be treated like the enemies they have chosen to be. We can't do anything overtly in Germany, but perhaps we could lure at least some of them to Iraq? Then they could be arresed and sent to Gitmo. We should certainly ask the German government to extradite them to us.

14 posted on 12/12/2003 10:50:28 PM PST by DarthMaulrulesok ("I bid you stand, Men of the West" - Lord of the Rings, Return of the King.)
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To: DarthMaulrulesok
We need to either use the army of occupation we still have in Germany or get it out of Germany.
15 posted on 12/15/2003 5:04:32 AM PST by blanknoone
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To: Paleo Conservative
Sorry for not replying earlier, but I was away on a business trip since Sunday.

Jocahim Guilliard: "I think when one supports the resistance I would not tell them who they then work with. So I would support it if the Patriotic Alliance worked together with the Baathists."

That sums it up perfectly. As long as the US and British forces are forced to withdraw, then he'd be perfectly happy to have a carbon copy of Saddam's regime back in power in Iraq.

Leftists are hypocrits, they turned a blind eye to Stalin's "great terror" and his numerous purges, but they never stop talking about Hitler's holocaust or the Vietnam war. Personally, I think this bloke and his fellow ringleaders are prime candidates for a CIA or an MI6 hit. Failing that, the US and Britain should threaten Germany with economic sanctions unless thay prosecute him and his ilk for bankrolling terrorists, last time I checked that was still a crime in the EU.

16 posted on 12/16/2003 10:36:02 AM PST by David Hunter
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