To: mil-vet
Criticizing your country here in your own country is protected. It's a lot more questionable to travel abroad and criticize your country. And it's even more questionable to travel to a war zone, criticize your country, and deliberately undermine the morale of the troops. Probably this doesn't quite rise to the level of treason, but it's dishonorable and disgusting. What's even more disgusting is the media ignore these people.
How about all those senators who traveled to Baghdad before the war to kiss Saddam? If it's not treason, it certainly deserves to be condemned in the strongest terms by any right-thinking person. It undoubtedly helped give Saddam the impression that he could continue to thumb his nose at us, because important people in our government were virtually telling him that.
7 posted on
12/11/2003 4:12:36 PM PST by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: Cicero
When people use "treason" and "traitor" so lightly they do several things:
a)the scare away swing voters who are on the fence - the voters both of these nearly evenly divided parties need to garner to win an election
b)they demean what a real traitor or real treason is.
c)they indicate that there's a desire to lower the bar on hundreds of years of US history, if you go back to WWI, WWII, Vietnam etc and basically make very strong disagreement on policies a crime against the country.
I think that right is what the people who died in WWI, certainly in WWII and in Korea, Vietnam, various other wars including Desert Storm and Iraq died to protect and defend.
If someone feels that our policy is such that people are dying unnecessarily due to poor planning of incompentence and says so, that is their right.
I detest Hillary (and don't think she'll ever win over swing voters) but she didn't commit treason. Some people are just trying to lower the political bar on what people can disagree with.
The problem is the shoe can be on the other foot. If we say someone who vehemently opposes our policies is a traitor, the Democrats when they are power can say it about us. Similarly, Clinton got his justly deserved ridicule when he was in office. If the Demmies go after GWB, that's their right too -- and ridicule doesn't require years in prison or make someone against the country...unless the country IS everything the president says, wears, does, etc. In which case we'd be in a different era than the framers of the constitution had in mind, or what those who died defending this country felt they were defending.
8 posted on
12/11/2003 4:21:49 PM PST by
jraven
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