New HBO Series Presents Not-So-Angelic Agenda

Crosswalk ^ | December 10, 2003 | Cal Thomas

[RobbyS]

The message is that Cohn is a creep because he has repressed his true identity. Don't forget that he is closely associated in the liberal mind with McCarthy. The rage against Reagan arose from the slowness of the administration to act even as panic increased among gays as they realized the seriousness of the disease. Neven mind that the government/industry later poured tons of money into keeping these people alive. What seems to have happened is that AIDS has become the basis of a kind of metaphysics that vests the pure hedonism of the gay lifestyle with a "higher" meaning.

[matrix2225]

Agree!

[bonfire]

"Gays and lesbians are portrayed as victims -- not of their own choices but of Republicans and specifically the Reagan administration during whose second term the drama is set."

I watched it and this sentence sums up the plot.

[matrix2225]

HBO has so much distaseful stuff on its programs, I haven't watch them in months, the last time I cancel them, my cable bill is down, and I am happy with it. Coll me old fashion by I rather watch TV Land or EWTN.

[cupcakes]

The worst part of the movie, was when they actually showed one guy picking up another guy in the park, and both of them going at it, standing up...doggie style
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What is laughable is that *they* think this will endear mainstream America to their cause. Here's a clue Hollywood, that behavior is disgusting(having sex with someone you just met in public) to most America when it is heterosexual behavior, it certainly is not going to be acceptable and endearing when gays do it.

[bonfire]

Actually, HBO has the best shows on TV. Thier HBO series shows are are better than the price of a movie ticket.

After watching the first part of "Angels", I doubt most people will tune in for part 2. Besides all the obvious liberal crap, it just wasn't compelling enough to waste another 3 hours of anyone's time.

[cupcakes]

I have more sympathy for the athelete who isn't lobbying for millions to be spent to cure them when their behavior disables them. Plus, an athelete will readily admit that this is a risk associated with their atheletic lifestyle, good luck finding most gays to admit that AIDS is an inherent risk in their lifestyle.

[cupcakes]

I have more sympathy for the athelete who isn't lobbying for millions to be spent to cure them when their behavior disables them. Plus, an athelete will readily admit that this is a risk associated with their atheletic lifestyle, good luck finding most gays to admit that AIDS is an inherent risk in their lifestyle.

[johnb2004]

I read this on EWTN Q and A a while back. It sums up my feelings regarding this topic:

I cannot help but notice how many people are not only completely understanding about homosexual tendencies, but can't possibly understand why people have a problem with it. And I have to respond that because of what we've been exposed to and thereby desensitized to, our natural response has been dulled. It is precisely because so many have "come out" and media coverage has increased (to the point where the editor of the Sunday NY Times Magazine has recently been quoted as saying if one didn't know better, one would think his publication was gay) that the concept of homosexuality has taken on a "normal" glow.
But who, in the current climate, can honestly express any sort of natural revulsion towards homosexual acts without being branded a "homophobe"? (By the way, I've never been afraid of them, so I never quite understood the phrase). It's gotten to the point where it's almost a hate crime to think that homosexual acts aren't as loving and self-giving as married heterosexual acts. I don't hate anyone, let me make that clear. But please let me say this: some things are naturally disgusting. And when someone I know does something I think is really disgusting, it doesn't make me want to hang around with them much. The reality is that there IS a natural repulsiveness toward turning a biological exit into a sexual input. And whenever a man proclaims himself "gay", that's exactly what I think of, because they themselves have reduced their identity and definition of themselves to a perverted sexual act.

It is this exposure of homosexuality that I object to. If one's tendencies are such, why does anyone need to be aware of them? Why, especially in the case of someone who is trying to live chastely, do they still feel free to label themselves gay and want me to accept them as completely normal? Because it advances their agenda, that's why. If struggling homosexuals would take their pain to the confessional and keep it, like all sin, a private matter between themselves, their confessor and God, it would do them and all of us a world of good. "You want to force us back into the closet!", I can hear them yelling. Yes, I do. Along with all other sin, but especially sexual sin. I'm tired of reading, hearing, thinking about other people's sins for the sake of legitimizing them. I'm tired of watching it, ad naseum, on TV, in the movies, in theatrical plays, reading it in books and magazines, hearing it in music and seeing it in "art". I have a hunch that there are many like me that think similarly, but we are hushed by contemporary society. I am sorry if I have been indelicate, I tried not to be, but I can only see negative results from having homosexuality normalized by the very-powerful pro-homosexual lobby. And it's gotten just about impossible to fight back. So I thank you, Dr. Geraghty, for standing fast and proclaiming truth. And for lett

[cupcakes]

I have more sympathy for the athelete who isn't lobbying for millions to be spent to cure them when their behavior disables them. Plus, an athelete will readily admit that this is a risk associated with their atheletic lifestyle, good luck finding most gays to admit that AIDS is an inherent risk in their lifestyle.

[RobbyS]

"Historically false." What these guys are doing is re-writing history through film. "Inherit the Wind" has become the history of the Scopes Trial, even though it distorts the facts beyond belief. Much of what ws put in the mouth of Hornback--the Menckin-like character played by Gene Kelly--were actually the words of Clarence Darrow. To have them spoken by Spencer Tracy would, of course, have made the Drummond character seem less than an angel of light. As for the Scopes-like character, the innocent crusader, that was off the mark. My mother knew Mrs. Scopes later on when Scopes was working in the oil field. Scopes was treated rather badly by the Darrow team after the trial.

[kegler4]

Personally, I don't go to movies looking for accurate history. Generally, that's not the purpose.

[Hildy]

Just keeps confirming my theory how self-loathing gay people are. People who are at peace with their lifestyles do not constantly have to tell you how normal they are, or in this case, how much BETTER they are than the rest of us.

[Hildy]

Did you ever see the play?

[YankeeGirl]

They clearly say Roy Cohn stole money from his clients. That makes him a creep. At the very least he was guilty of tax evasion. He said he vigorously prosecuted Ethel Rosenberg because she was a traitor. I believe history (and one of her own son's research) proved she was even more involved in the espionage than believed at the time. The Ethel Rosenberg character never claimed innocence and he never expressed any remorse to her.

I haven't picked up the "Reagan is bad because he is anti-gay" thing yet. I DID get the "Reagan is bad because he is conservative" theme. I'm trying to view the show objectively, maybe I'm not picking up the subtelties.

I can't say yet that the show is glorifing the homosexual lifestyle. Anonymous sex with people wondering Central Park at night is not coming across as nice or fun. And the destruction of family relations (including extrangements from unaccepting parents)either shown or alluded to is terribly sad. The characters are sympathetic, not their lifestyle.

I love my dad, but I hate when he eats a bag of smuggled potato chips after taking his blood pressure meds. Another stupid choice that hurts himself and others. But we should still treat and cure those with heart disease.

[WhiteGuy]

Tony..........

You've been missing The Sopranos?

Go rent the series.........

Too good to miss.

[RobbyS]

Movies are the closest thing most people get to history. For instance, "Inherit the Wind" is all that even educated people know about the Scopes Trial and it is shown in thousands of public schools. Rosenburg was, of course, a Stalinist who approved of everything her master did. But here we have yet another generation exposed to the lies about her. And don't underestimate their power. "Birth of a Nation" gave rise to the modern Klan.

[RobbyS]

Roy Cohn is the personification of the true homophobe.

[spectre]

Girl..we have one thumbs up and one down for Pacino. That's show biz for ya. Agree AIDS is a horrible way to die..but I feel more sympathy for those who contracted it thru a contaminated blood supply than those who gave it to themselves.

"Here's a clue Hollywood, that behavior is disgusting(having sex with someone you just met in public) to most America when it is heterosexual behavior, it certainly is not going to be acceptable and endearing when gays do it." Well said.

And just what WAS the message when the two guys were doing it...when the one guy said "hurt me" when the condom broke? Hummm? Was he supposed to be a hero because he wanted to continue to engage in risky sex given to him by some stranger he picked up in a park..because his partner had AIDS and he didn't? I don't think the message was to warn people that condoms can break. We all know that.

Did any of you catch the comments about President Reagan's dysfunctional Children? Especially Ron, being a homo?

It was slanderous.