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European Dishonor, Sharia on the Old Continent
National Review ^ | December 3, 2003 | Lorenzo Vidino & Erick Stakelbeck

Posted on 12/03/2003 6:34:59 AM PST by Land_of_Lincoln_John

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To: pragmatic_asian
"The Euros have no tradition or willingness to integrate anyone -
their racism is extensive but covert."

Rather stong statement don't you think?
It seems to me that when non-whites assert their ethnicity, then it's "multiculturalism"
and white folks better respect it. But when whites show any inkling of racial consciousness,
solidarity or concern about their own unique cultures , national identity or their own destiny
as a people then they're automatically "racists."

And since when are the "Euros" required to integrate anyone? I see "non-Euros" all over the
Western (Euro, North American, Australian, New Zealand) world. I don't see "Euros" by the
millions settling in the "non-Euro" world. Wonder why that is?

21 posted on 12/03/2003 6:38:32 PM PST by StormEye
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To: StormEye
"Rather stong statement don't you think?
It seems to me that when non-whites assert their ethnicity, then it's "multiculturalism"
and white folks better respect it. But when whites show any inkling of racial consciousness,
solidarity or concern about their own unique cultures , national identity or their own destiny
as a people then they're automatically "racists." "

I call shennanigans. Exactly what is white culture? Here in the US plenty of 'whites' celebrate their cultures and nobody says a damng thing. If anything, people of other ethnicities/cultures participate. Plenty of people from other ethnicities and cultures take part in October-fest for example. It's not just whites I see partying during St. Patrick's Day. Is tail-gating part of white culture? If so, I do it before college games. I haven't heard of anyone calling 'white' celebration of their culture racist. Give me an example if you can. It may seem that way, but idiots on both ends of the socio-political spectrum creat bad impressions all around. I despise the multi-culturalist extremists as much as anyone since it makes my own sense of culture seem prideful. I've lived in countries where I was part of the ethnic/racial majority and several others where I was in the minority. In the countries where I was where I was part of the majority, my family and I felt no need to celebrate our culture/race in particular. We simply celebrated our events/custums without race/culture becoming an overt issue--it's probably like that for "whites" in the US--because there's virtually no threat of losing your cultural identity.

"And since when are the "Euros" required to integrate anyone? I see "non-Euros" all over the
Western (Euro, North American, Australian, New Zealand) world. I don't see "Euros" by the
millions settling in the "non-Euro" world. Wonder why that is?"

Why are you trying to be disingenuous? The answer is simple - because the rest of the world is generally a shit-hole and they want to make a better life for themselves and their family. Admit it, you would be no different in trying to get to some place better for you family if you could. And if you allow all that immigration from those other countries, you might want to integrate those people otherwise they can become a problem. So do you think it's a good idea for Euros to allow all that Muslim immigration and not even make an effort to make them adopt civilized values?
22 posted on 12/05/2003 7:47:32 PM PST by pragmatic_asian
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To: RussianConservative
Religious affiliatioon is the most interesting thing about american culture that is not reported in the news media. It is very "american" to have some kind of religious affiliation - even a "devout atheist" is pigeonholed and identified.

Europe has no such diversity and latitude in religious freedom. American religious freedom is an anomaly in world history. It is the backbone of our love of freedom and do - or -die commitment to be "free".

Europe has no commitment to individual freedoms when compared to America. American government silliness in bringing over mullahs is just that - but in Europe that action would bear more weight, more meaning and signify more serious intentions.

There are so many differences between Euro religious traditions and American ones that it should be studied by all non-American countries. This is the real strength of America - not its bombs or leaders. :-)

23 posted on 12/09/2003 1:09:01 AM PST by Podkayne
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