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Islamists trained in rural France
guardian.co.uk ^ | Friday November 28, 2003 | Jon Henley

Posted on 11/27/2003 7:59:36 PM PST by Destro

Islamists trained in rural France


Jon Henley in Paris
Friday November 28, 2003
The Guardian

French Islamist militants, who later spent time in al-Qaida military camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan and went on to became soldiers of the jihad, underwent their first group training exercises in the bucolic surroundings of the forest of Fontainebleau, investigators said yesterday.

"We call them the Old Campers," said a police officer working with judge Jean-Louis Bruguière, France's leading anti-terrorist investigating magistrate. "They trained in the forest near Paris, and also in the Alps near Annecy. At least one later died fighting with al-Qaida and the Taliban in Afghanistan."

According to the weekly news magazine l'Express the training exercises in France, which took place from 1996 to 1999, were relatively low-level introductory courses focusing on group cohesion, endurance and loyalty. For periods of up to a week, groups of militants would march long distances, mount staged manhunts and practise unarmed combat.

Several times during night exercises in the Alps, the magazine said, frightened would-be Islamist fighters from France's big-city suburbs got lost in the mountains and had to use their mobile phones to be rescued by gendarmes. One reportedly fell into a crevasse.

"They were not very advanced affairs," the police officer said. "We believe they were used as a sort of preliminary weeding-out procedure, to see who was capable of going further down the road. Some participants who ended up not leaving France worked in support and logistics for terrorist projects that were mounted here."

The more successful "Old Campers" went to training camps in Pakistan and Afghanistan in 2000 and 2001.

Meanwhile, the head of France's DST intelligence agency said yesterday that France had successfully foiled "quite a few" terrorist plots.

Pierre de Bousquet de Florian said some 120 suspects had been arrested in France since the September 11 attacks, and that half of them had been convicted of membership of a terrorist organisation.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; alqaedafrance; balkans; france; terrorisim; trainingcamps
According to the weekly news magazine l'Express the training exercises in France, which took place from 1996 to 1999...

It seems very clear to me that the West (including the USA under Clinton) were training and raising Islamic armies to be used against Yugoslavia, Russia, China, India and other nations in some sort of Great Game Foreign Policy. Before we rag (pun intended) on the French-remember all those Islamic war camps all over the States that Clinton left alone to train hundreds (thousands?) of potential Islamic terrorisists while Clinton sent the BATF after the kooky but harmless American groups like the Branch Davidians.

What do y'all think? Time has passed enough that we need to question just what sort of foreign policy game was being played by the so called Third Way leftists during the 90s.

1 posted on 11/27/2003 7:59:36 PM PST by Destro
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To: *balkans; marron; Angelus Errare
Please also read:

US after 9/11: None the wiser

2 posted on 11/27/2003 8:00:44 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Something was up in the mid to late 90s. Potential subject of your next book!
4 posted on 11/27/2003 8:03:01 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: FrenchStinkyYuck
S.O.A. - SCOTTISH ORIENTEERING ASSOCIATION?
5 posted on 11/27/2003 8:04:42 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
IMO--I think we all mis-read Islam and their Jihad training camps. We didn't know then that they are required by Allah to rule the world. Too little did we know then; it is definitely not too late to know that now. Sayonarra.
6 posted on 11/27/2003 8:08:16 PM PST by jolie560
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To: Destro
One reportedly fell into a crevasse

Seems appropriate.
7 posted on 11/27/2003 8:10:47 PM PST by visualops (Liberty is both the plan of Heaven for humanity, and the best hope for progress here on Earth.-G.W.B)
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To: Destro
Bump
8 posted on 11/27/2003 8:15:08 PM PST by dagnabbit (Stop immigrating Islam. Don't let France happen to America.)
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To: Destro
jihad bump
9 posted on 11/27/2003 9:32:52 PM PST by Dajjal
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To: Destro
I always thought that Islamic Nazi-ism and Euro-leftist political correctness made bizarre bedfellows. But I dismissed it all as a joke. Turns out that it's not only bizarre, it could become dangerous.
10 posted on 11/27/2003 10:21:24 PM PST by Clintonfatigued
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To: Destro
Too bad they aren't all French-trained...
11 posted on 11/27/2003 10:46:45 PM PST by Luke Skyfreeper
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