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Sun Sheds Skin And Flips
spacedaily.com ^ | 21 Nov 03 | staff

Posted on 11/20/2003 11:59:37 AM PST by RightWhale

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To: commish
Canopus oval:

http://www.dan.sp-agency.ca/www/rtoval.htm




41 posted on 11/20/2003 3:17:29 PM PST by petuniasevan (I used to jog, but the ice kept falling out of my glass.)
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To: commish
Below 50 degrees. I can see why. One hell of a storm...


42 posted on 11/20/2003 3:20:03 PM PST by Davea
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To: commish
For those who want to follow it here's the url. Refresh often sometimes it "sticks"...
http://sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/kp_3d.html
43 posted on 11/20/2003 3:22:54 PM PST by Davea
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To: Davea
CAnopus oval has retreated slightly to about 52-53 for now, but as your chart shows the K-index is over 9 now and the Magnetic Component on NOAA has moved from -10S to over -50S (this means the Magnetic field is now as far south as the instruments can measure.)
44 posted on 11/20/2003 3:24:01 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: RightWhale
What would be the ramifications if the Sun's magnetic field did not flip every 11 years? Would it affect the earth. Would earth somehow become supermagnetized in one direction?
45 posted on 11/20/2003 4:10:42 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: RightWhale
Trying to remember my college geology classes but didn't the magnetic poles exchange several times in the earth's history? Or am I thinking about something else?
46 posted on 11/20/2003 4:26:40 PM PST by lilylangtree
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To: commish
Aurora is very active in Northern West Virginia. Lots of green, blue and red curtains. It has impressed the kids & neighbors. Better than earlier in the month!
47 posted on 11/20/2003 4:28:21 PM PST by Lawdoc
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To: DannyTN
The Earth’s magnetic fieild is generated by the convection cells of molten magma within the mantel.

Geologic evidence indicates that the field has flipped multiple times, though I think it’s been several thousand years since the last one.

I haven’t heard the latest theory on why it flips, but I don’t think the Sun has been referenced. However, since the convection cell movement is generating our magnetic field, it makes sense to me that if the Earth was buffeted by a strong magnetic field, it could affect the movement of the magma. Posted here on FR, was an interesting graph showing a correlation between the Sun’s 11 year cycle and volcanic eruptions.

48 posted on 11/20/2003 4:44:40 PM PST by Barnacle (Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
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To: Lawdoc
Aurora is very active in Northern West Virginia.

Fantastic! Remember folks, state at least your general location when posting reports tonight.

49 posted on 11/20/2003 4:48:23 PM PST by Barnacle (Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
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To: Barnacle
Hey barnacle - what is your take on some the current readings. NOAA has downgraded the storm to Severe now, and the Magnetic component is pointing back north -- yet in the last hour the CANOPUS Oval has dove even furthur south, it is now below 60 degrees again.

The NOAA readings say the storm is subsiding, yet the Auroral Oval is strengthening, wierd.

50 posted on 11/20/2003 5:41:01 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: Lee'sGhost
There was something on Nova the other night about the earth losing its magnetic field and we're all gonna die

Saw it, basically Mars' liquid core cooled down and became solid, thus ending the magnetic field and whatever atmosphere existed blew off into space. It'll be a while, but the same is expected to happen to our liquid core and atmosphere.

The next kite you buy ought to be designiated "for solar winds only".

51 posted on 11/20/2003 6:11:35 PM PST by budwiesest ("Mr. Franklin, that republic you spoke of, I seem to have misplaced it.")
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To: Alamo-Girl; RightWhale; Piltdown_Woman
I am extraordinarily interested in this subject, A-G! And I am so grateful to RightWhale for posting it. Extraordinary things are happening in our solar system at this time/in this era (JMHO), and we need to understand these phenomena. Fortunately, the human race seems up to the task. Details to follow, in due course. :^)

52 posted on 11/20/2003 7:49:31 PM PST by betty boop (God used beautiful mathematics in creating the world. -- Paul Dirac)
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To: commish
Can you post the links to which sites you're seeing this?
53 posted on 11/20/2003 8:00:04 PM PST by Barnacle (Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
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To: budwiesest
Saw it, basically Mars' liquid core cooled down and became solid, thus ending the magnetic field and whatever atmosphere existed blew off into space. It'll be a while, but the same is expected to happen to our liquid core and atmosphere.

I thought it was a little odd that Venus has no magnetic field, a VERY thick atmosphere and is A LOT CLOSER to the sun...

54 posted on 11/20/2003 8:01:09 PM PST by null and void (The evil is in plain sight, the danger increases with denial. - George W. Bush)
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To: betty boop
Thank you so much for your reply! This is the first time I've heard it called a magnetic "skin" - interesting concept.
55 posted on 11/20/2003 8:23:20 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Barnacle
http://www.dan.sp-agency.ca/www/rtoval.htm - Canopus Auroral oval

http://www.spaceweather.com/

http://www.sec.noaa.gov/SWN/ - NOAA Space Weather Now

http://sec.noaa.gov/rt_plots/kp_3d.html - KP Index
56 posted on 11/20/2003 8:28:54 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: null and void
I thought it was a little odd that Venus has no magnetic field,

Perhaps it is too close to the sun, causing it's core to behave more like a rapidly boiling liquid, unable to 'swirl' while gassing off into the 'atsmosphere' via cracks or volcanoes on the surface.

Imagine what our atmosphere might be like if volcanoes like the one in Hawaii were dotted around the landscape at say, one per every three or four miles.

57 posted on 11/20/2003 9:17:47 PM PST by budwiesest ("Mr. Franklin, that republic you spoke of, seems to have been misplaced.")
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To: commish
Those are good sites. I got a new one to add to my Favorites! As to your original question,

Hey barnacle - what is your take on some the current readings.

I think I means it’s over for tonight. ?:^{

58 posted on 11/20/2003 9:19:22 PM PST by Barnacle (Navigating the treacherous waters of a liberal culture)
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To: Darksheare
You also have to readjust your big screen TV's and some computer monitors.
59 posted on 11/20/2003 9:27:10 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Alamo-Girl; RightWhale; Phaedrus; Tribune7; CobaltBlue; marron; RadioAstronomer; PatrickHenry
This is the first time I've heard it called a magnetic "skin" - interesting concept.

Indeed! The hypothesis that the Sun is a living system has recently gained ground in astrophysical circles -- one might say the suspicion is that the Sun is a "non-carbon-based life form".... :^) So I guess it can have a kind of "skin."

Thanks so much for writing, A-G.

60 posted on 11/21/2003 6:40:04 AM PST by betty boop (God used beautiful mathematics in creating the world. -- Paul Dirac)
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