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Bonds wins sixth NL MVP Award
Major League Baseball ^ | November 18th, 2003 | Chris Shuttlesworth

Posted on 11/18/2003 11:17:20 AM PST by Sabertooth

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To: Spok
Wasn't he an accused wife beater at one time?

No. You're thinking of Sidney Blumenthal.

21 posted on 11/18/2003 11:51:08 AM PST by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: Zack Nguyen




Barry weighs a little more than 210 pounds.

Yeah, MLB's out of date on that.

Bonds' bio on the Giants' website has him at 230.


22 posted on 11/18/2003 11:52:03 AM PST by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: Sabertooth
Probably his last year as MVP, now that MLB will be doing real tests for steriods.
23 posted on 11/18/2003 11:53:02 AM PST by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again...")
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To: Snuffington
I have an ugly feeling steroid use in baseball is wildly out of control, and an awful lot of the top stars have something to hide.

Absolutely. My guess is that steroid use is somewhere between 20% - 40%. .....Although it's not quite that simple -- some players take the strong stuff, others take a more mild variety (although still illegal), and still others take "supplements" that fall in the grey area of illegality. Bonds and Sosa fall into the first category, imo.

24 posted on 11/18/2003 11:54:03 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Sabertooth
A-Rod's winning the AL MVP is a "make up" for the "slight" he got last year, losing to the Oakland A's Miguel Tejada.
25 posted on 11/18/2003 11:54:07 AM PST by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again...")
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To: Sabertooth
Bonds wins sixth NL MVP Award

hip...hip...hooray!

26 posted on 11/18/2003 11:55:03 AM PST by N. Theknow (Be a glowworm, a glowworm's never glum, cuz how can you be grumpy when the sun shines out your bum.)
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To: steve8714
Bonds was simply better than Pujols. He had more HRsThere is no regional bias. Bonds had more HR's in about 200 fewer at bats and he had a much higher OBP% and SLG%. Just looking at the numbers you'd have to give it to Bonds. Oh yeah, and his team didnt suck.
27 posted on 11/18/2003 11:55:25 AM PST by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: My2Cents
I'm sorry, but A-Fraud didn't deserve that MVP. Early in the season when the Rangers lost 20 of 22 games, he barely hit over .200 with men in scoring position, which is the most important statistic in baseball.
28 posted on 11/18/2003 11:56:36 AM PST by dfwgator (All I want for Christmas is for Ron Zook to stay as head coach (at least till next year))
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To: Sabertooth
I have often wondered how many homers I could hit if I took steriods......or better yet, if Aaron or Mays or Ruth did.....No doubt this guy is good, but if major league baseball is serious about testing.....let's see if this guy goes the way of Mark McGuire....and falls off the face of the earth.
29 posted on 11/18/2003 11:57:22 AM PST by irish guard
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To: My2Cents
Probably his last year as MVP, now that MLB will be doing real tests for steriods.

He was the best hitter in baseball long before he was a superhuman homerun hitter.
30 posted on 11/18/2003 11:57:27 AM PST by Blackyce (President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: Archie Bunker on steroids
Ping to the expert
31 posted on 11/18/2003 11:58:04 AM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: diamondjoe
"Barry Bonds...Better living through chemistry."

He claims his power surge late in his career is the result of an exercise regime which amounts to running around the track at Stanford. Right...Running has caused his head to literally swell up to twice its normal size.

Bonds is a guy with great talent, but talent which is illegally enhanced. He's a fraud. Baseball injures itself in giving a guy like him the recognition, which is also a slap in the face to players like Mays and Aaron, who were great without the chemical enhancements.

32 posted on 11/18/2003 11:58:21 AM PST by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again...")
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To: Snuffington
I went through some of my baseball cards with my son the other day. I came across a Sammy Sosa card that was about 10-15 years old. The guy was about half the size he is now.
33 posted on 11/18/2003 11:58:39 AM PST by ThreeYearLurker
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To: SF Republican
Sorry--having been a batboy for a NL team in my youth, I can testify for a fact that Barry is the world class a-hole that everyone says he is. I had to deal with him quite frequently, and if you are not as accomplished a person as he is (and who is?) he treats you like absolute dirt.
34 posted on 11/18/2003 11:58:45 AM PST by diamondjoe
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To: Sabertooth
Bonds' attorney has said that he's willing to take any test MLB wants to administer.

What does it tell you that it's Bonds' atty. who has laid down that challenge?

35 posted on 11/18/2003 11:59:34 AM PST by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again...")
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To: steve8714
I love living in flyover country, and hope that it always remains flyover country.
36 posted on 11/18/2003 12:00:31 PM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that does not trust you with guns?)
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To: steve8714
I agree with you 100% on Pujols, and I live in "SF Giants" territory.
37 posted on 11/18/2003 12:00:36 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again...")
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To: My2Cents



What does it tell you that it's Bonds' atty. who has laid down that challenge?

That Bonds is under subpoena, though not at target of the investigation, in the Burlingame case. Bonds is letting is attorney speak to the issue. His attorney has a smart client.


38 posted on 11/18/2003 12:02:24 PM PST by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: SF Republican
>>>>having watched Barry for seven years he is a decent fellow.<<<<

Everything I get my hands on says he is a full fledged turd in the clubhouse.....Sprots Illustrated did a piece on him, Kent has spoken about him...some guy flew out to SF to interview him, gave him three days and he blew the guy off. He speaks very little to the press and when in Milwaukee for the All Star game was a perfect dick, left after he played, which was one of the reasons they were not able to finish the game...many guys simply left early....but then again, he could be a good guy.

39 posted on 11/18/2003 12:02:57 PM PST by irish guard
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To: dfwgator
As I said, A-Rod was awarded the MVP to make up for the "slight" of not getting it last year. He didn't deserve it either year, IMHO.
40 posted on 11/18/2003 12:03:33 PM PST by My2Cents ("Well....there you go again...")
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