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'Queer' Definition Changes With the Times
AP ^ | 11-9-03

Posted on 11/09/2003 12:56:20 PM PST by steppenwolffe

CHICAGO - Something queer is happening to the word "queer."

Originally a synonym for "odd" or "unusual," the word evolved into an anti-gay insult in the last century, only to be reclaimed by defiant gay and lesbian activists who chanted: "We're here, we're queer, get used to it."

Now "queer" is sneaking into the mainstream - and taking on a hipster edge as a way to describe any sexual orientation beyond straight.

Jay Edwards, a 28-year-old gay man from Houston, has noticed it.

"Hey Jay," a straight co-worker recently said. "Have you met the new guy? He's really cute and queer, too. Just your type!"

It's the kind of exchange that still makes many - gay or straight - wince. That's because, in the 1920s and '30s the word "queer" became synonymous with "pansy," "sissy" and even "pervert," says Gregory Ward, a Northwestern University linguist who teaches a course on language and sexuality.

Now, Ward says, the increasing use of "queer" - as in the prime-time TV show titles "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy" and "Queer as Folk" - is changing the word's image.

"It's really losing the hurtful and quasi-violent nature it had," Ward says.

Trish McDermott, vice president of "romance" at the Match.com online dating service, says she's seeing the word appear more often in personal ads.

The title of one current ad: "Nice Guy for the Queer Guy."

Meanwhile, a recent review in the Chicago Tribune's Metromix entertainment guide defined the crowd in a new upscale bar as "model-types and young clubbers amid dressy Trixies, middle-aged Gold Coast cigar-chompers and queer-eyed straight guys" (the latter term referring to straight men who've spiffed themselves up).

And while some in the gay community began using the word in the last decade or two as an umbrella term for "gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered," today's young people say that "queer" encompasses even more.

"I love it because, in one word, you can refer to the alphabet soup of gay, lesbian, bisexual, questioning, 'heteroflexible,' 'omnisexual,' 'pansexual' and all of the other shades of difference in that fluid, changing arena of human sexuality," says 27-year-old Stacy Harbaugh. She's the program coordinator for the Indiana Youth Group, a drop-in center in Indianapolis for youth who may place themselves into any of those categories.

"I find myself attracted to boy-like girls and girl-like boys," Harbaugh adds. "If 'lesbian' or 'bi' doesn't seem to fit, 'queer' certainly does."

Heteroflexible? Pansexual? The growing list of terms can be downright boggling.

James Cross, a 26-year-old Chicagoan, personally likes the term "metrosexual," meant to describe straight men like him who are into designer clothes, love art and fashion and even enjoy shopping (much like "queer-eyed straight guys").

He's also noticed the word "queer" being bandied about more often, especially at the public relations firm where he works. But he says women are "definitely more comfortable" with it.

"I hate to admit it, but I certainly wear masks with the term. When I'm at work and talking with women, I'm down with it," he says. "But when I'm out on the rugby pitch or drinking beer with my 'bros,' I'm just one of the guys."

Indeed, use of a word that carries so much baggage can cause confusion.

Andy Rohr, a 26-year-old gay man living in Boston, noted that when a straight co-worker told him she liked the show "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy."

"She whispered the word 'queer,'" he says.

Dan Cordella says he, too, is perplexed about what he "can and can't say."

"An entire generation of suburban youth was taught to practically walk on eggshells with their wording around those that, one, chose an alternative lifestyle and, two, were of a different ethnic background," says Cordella, a 26-year-old straight man who lives in New York and grew up outside Boston.

Ward, the Northwestern linguist, says that people are wise to use "queer" carefully because it is still "very context-sensitive."

"It really matters who says it and why they're saying it," he says.

Edwards, from Houston, says he likes when straight people are comfortable using it.

"If they can say the word with as much casualness and confidence as my gay friends, it lets me know that they are comfortable with who I am," he says.

Rohr, from Boston, is less sure about its use in everyday conversation but says it works with the "Queer Eye" title because its use is "archaic and unexpected."

"The bottom line is, I think the term has lost its political potency, if it ever had any, and has just become campy," he says.

And a spokesman for one conservative Christian group that monitors the media says he's "glad that 'queer' might be losing its edge in terms of being an insult."

"It's not a particular word we're concerned with," says Ed Vitagliano, of the American Family Association in Tupelo, Miss. "It's that the media and the entertainment industries are such powerful transmitters of values for only one side of this controversial issue."

Others, especially those with strong memories of the word as an insult, still find its use hurtful. "I believe this word continues to marginalize us," says Robin Tyler, a California-based activist and lesbian who's in her 60s.

That lingering negativity was apparent last month, for instance, when a Senate committee questioned federal appellate nominee Claude Allen about his use of the word "queer" when he was a press aide to Sen. Jesse Helms. Allen said he didn't intend it as a slur against gay people.

But incidents like those are proof that "queer" will be slow to shed its negative connotation, says researcher Caitlyn Ryan.

"It will take a long time to transition into common use in middle America," says Ryan, a clinical social worker at San Francisco State University who is conducting a long-term survey of gay, lesbian and bisexual youth and their families.

She has found that use of the word "queer" is most common among college students and young adults in their 20s - but says that, even in the most gay-friendly parts of California, it is rarely used by gay men and lesbians older than 40, or among people who aren't white.

She also notes that it took years for mainstream newspapers to use the word "gay" in place of "homosexual," a term many people now see as cold and clinical.

But some young people don't seem too worried if the rest of America is slow to embrace the word.

"I can still walk down the street and have boys lean out the windows of pickup trucks yelling 'Dyke!' or 'Queer!'" says Harbaugh from Indianapolis. "But instead of being frightened, I simply say, 'Thanks!'"


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: culturewar; deviancy; doublestandard; downourthroats; hedonists; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; iffeelsgooddoit; language; libertines; mediabias; metrosexuals; pc; permissivesociety; politicallycorrect; promiscuity; queereye; queers; sexualdeviance; sexualdeviants

1 posted on 11/09/2003 12:56:20 PM PST by steppenwolffe
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To: steppenwolffe
the word "queer" became synonymous with "pansy," "sissy" and even "pervert

It still is, to most people.

2 posted on 11/09/2003 12:58:08 PM PST by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: Timesink
'Queer' Definition Changes With the Times

"HmmmMmMMMMMMmmMmMMMMmmMM..."

3 posted on 11/09/2003 12:58:09 PM PST by martin_fierro (_____oooo_(_°_¿_°_)_oooo_____)
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To: Guillermo
The term for odd or unusual in NE Mass among the kids is "It is so Gay."
4 posted on 11/09/2003 1:03:16 PM PST by Little Bill ("Roosevelt was the first Dictator of the United States"...My Grandfather)
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To: steppenwolffe
"I love it because, in one word, you can refer to the alphabet soup of gay, lesbian, bisexual, questioning, 'heteroflexible,' 'omnisexual,' 'pansexual' and all of the other shades of difference in that fluid, changing arena of human sexuality," says 27-year-old Stacy Harbaugh. She's the program coordinator for the Indiana Youth Group, a drop-in center in Indianapolis for youth who may place themselves into any of those categories.

"I find myself attracted to boy-like girls and girl-like boys," Harbaugh adds. "If 'lesbian' or 'bi' doesn't seem to fit, 'queer' certainly does."

Am I the only person that finds these two sentences a cause for concern?

5 posted on 11/09/2003 1:04:40 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Little Bill
They better not say that in front of their teachers...
6 posted on 11/09/2003 1:06:39 PM PST by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: jwalsh07
Umm, it's a sex club.
7 posted on 11/09/2003 1:07:12 PM PST by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: Guillermo
Umm, it's a sex club.

For pedophiles?

8 posted on 11/09/2003 1:08:37 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Little Bill
"It is so Gay."


9 posted on 11/09/2003 1:09:46 PM PST by ErnBatavia (Santa Ana wind and fire season runs thru late November..we're just beginning)
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To: jwalsh07
It seems as though "anything goes."
10 posted on 11/09/2003 1:11:16 PM PST by Guillermo (Proud Infidel)
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To: Guillermo
the word "queer" became synonymous with "pansy," "sissy" and even "pervert


11 posted on 11/09/2003 1:18:08 PM PST by Timesink
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To: steppenwolffe
I try so hard to be politically correct, but it is very difficult to keep up with what is permitted speech and what is not.

Now that "queer" is politically correct, am I allowed to use the terms "fag," "faggot, "homo," "fairy," "fruit," "fudge packer," and "hershey highway riding fruitloop" too?

12 posted on 11/09/2003 1:23:41 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: Guillermo
Kids have a way of filtering out the hype.
13 posted on 11/09/2003 1:24:19 PM PST by Little Bill ("Roosevelt was the first Dictator of the United States"...My Grandfather)
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To: martin_fierro
"HmmmMmMMMMMMmmMmMMMMmmMM..."

"Now Daddy thinks my friends are complimenting him when they call him queer! Thanks, New York Times!"

"Hey, wait a minute. I don't have any friends..."

14 posted on 11/09/2003 1:26:17 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Little Bill
The term for odd or unusual in NE Mass among the kids is "It is so Gay."


15 posted on 11/09/2003 1:30:35 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Timesink
Geez...yet ANOTHER balding gay guy! It's a conspriacy; I tell you!
16 posted on 11/09/2003 1:37:50 PM PST by who knows what evil? (Under the personal care of the Great Physician...full coverage.)
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To: Timesink
Is that a quare fellow? Me thinks that he looks like a mincing Quean. The Bard had a word for everything.
17 posted on 11/09/2003 1:39:49 PM PST by Little Bill (The Bard of Avon Rules, The Duke of Cambridge was a Mincing Quean.)
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To: steppenwolffe
"I love it because, in one word, you can refer to the alphabet soup of gay, lesbian, bisexual, questioning, 'heteroflexible,' 'omnisexual,' 'pansexual' and all of the other shades of difference in that fluid, changing arena of human sexuality,"

We already have one word for all that: pervert!

Anyway, let's translate some of these strange terms:

Questioning: Refers only to confused folk who think they might be gay, never to gays who think they might be straight. The confused may question all he likes, but to this bunch, to question is to answer yes.

Heteroflexible: Gay for pay.

Omnisexual: Sleeps with anything with a pulse.

Pansexual: The pulse is optional.

18 posted on 11/09/2003 1:44:32 PM PST by Loyalist
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To: steppenwolffe
There are universities out there with Departments of Queer Studies.

It's part of the chaos that our language has been thrown into by the PC Language Police. Victim groups are allowed to use otherwise demeaning language about themselves, but nobody else can. It's a kind of affirmative action for speech.

Thus, blacks are entitled to use the N-word among themselves if they choose, but God help a white man who does. Gays are allowed to call themselves queer, but straight people must not, or they will get hammered. And so forth.
19 posted on 11/09/2003 1:48:36 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Guillermo
the word "queer" became synonymous with "pansy," "sissy" and even "pervert,"

Still is, my words exactly.
20 posted on 11/09/2003 1:58:22 PM PST by Delphinium
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To: Loyalist
Pansexual: The pulse is optional.

Argh! I'm SO glad I wasn't drinking when I read that! (But then, I've learned to watch out....)

21 posted on 11/09/2003 2:02:12 PM PST by thulldud (It's bad luck to be superstitious.)
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To: steppenwolffe
We still have plenty of other words in the English language. In fact as we learn more about them and the things they do, "quuer" just doesn't seem to accuaretly describe them any more. We need to move on to; "sick", "depraved", "vile", "disgusting", "perverts", "sinners", "sickos", "reprobates" ... those are a few that come to mind.
22 posted on 11/09/2003 2:08:49 PM PST by ElkGroveDan (Fighting for Freedom and Having Fun)
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To: steppenwolffe
So, does this mean fudgepacker now refers to people that work for Hershey's?
23 posted on 11/09/2003 2:13:38 PM PST by isthisnickcool (Guns!)
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To: All
< That's because, in the 1920s and '30s the word "queer" became synonymous with "pansy," "sissy" and even "pervert," >

Well, duh...and homosexual...why leave that out?
24 posted on 11/09/2003 2:37:18 PM PST by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance seem to have the least for my views.)
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To: jwalsh07
"I find myself attracted to boy-like girls and girl-like boys," Harbaugh adds. "If 'lesbian' or 'bi' doesn't seem to fit, 'queer' certainly does."

Am I the only person that finds these two sentences a cause for concern?

No.

This is such a blatant statement the declares that she, an adult, is running a program with kids with gender confusion problems. And she is attracted to them.

Is this a NAMBLA thingie or what? How Gay...

25 posted on 11/09/2003 2:42:36 PM PST by Dr. Zoo
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To: steppenwolffe
"I love it because, in one word, you can refer to the alphabet soup of gay, lesbian, bisexual, questioning, 'heteroflexible,' 'omnisexual,' 'pansexual' and all of the other shades of difference in that fluid, changing arena of human sexuality," says 27-year-old Stacy Harbaugh. She's the program coordinator for the Indiana Youth Group, a drop-in center in Indianapolis for youth who may place themselves into any of those categories. "I find myself attracted to boy-like girls and girl-like boys," Harbaugh adds. "If 'lesbian' or 'bi' doesn't seem to fit, 'queer' certainly does."

Oh my God, a deviant creates a "club" for the willing victims of sexual deviancy to drop and get 'connected' ... The correct name for this sexual deviant is PEDOPHILE.

26 posted on 11/09/2003 3:47:05 PM PST by WOSG (I SUPPORT COLONEL WEST.)
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To: jwalsh07
No. They jumped out at me ... It's like a pedophile signing up to be a "Camp Counselor".
27 posted on 11/09/2003 3:47:55 PM PST by WOSG (I SUPPORT COLONEL WEST.)
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To: Loyalist
Pansexual: The pulse is optional.

LOL.

Reminds me of the Tom Swifty: "I am not a homosexual necrophiliac" he said in dead earnest.

28 posted on 11/09/2003 3:49:38 PM PST by WOSG (I SUPPORT COLONEL WEST.)
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To: steppenwolffe
A rose is a rose is a rose.

A queer is a queer is a queer.

29 posted on 11/09/2003 4:05:58 PM PST by upchuck (Encourage HAMAS to pre-test their explosive devices. A dud always spoils everything.)
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To: steppenwolffe
Don't forget, the meaning of the word "gay" has changed too. Now "gay" means "queer."
30 posted on 11/09/2003 4:11:53 PM PST by Macklew
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To: Bubba_Leroy
“Now that "queer" is politically correct, am I allowed to use the terms "fag," "faggot, "homo," "fairy," "fruit," "fudge packer," and "hershey highway riding fruitloop" too?”

Uh…I’d hold off on those for just a little while longer, if I were you.
31 posted on 11/09/2003 5:27:12 PM PST by Maria S ("When the passions become masters, they are vices." Pascal, 1670)
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