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President Bush Shows Strong Pro-Life Beliefs in Private Meetings
LifeNews.com ^ | November 7, 2003 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 11/07/2003 4:59:36 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: ohioWfan
Scalia and Thomas believe in the rule of law and the actual meaning of the Constitution. Liberals don't. Abortion is not a federal issue. Both Scalia and Thomas have said so. They will say it again on this topic and be scathing against the majority opinion which will overturn this ban but they will concur. The Feds have no right to dictate abortion laws to any state much less county or town! That is why Scalia and Thomas will concur in overturning this ruling.
21 posted on 11/07/2003 6:43:42 PM PST by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: esther2
Did you see a tape of the signing of the bill, esther? I have NEVER heard more applause from an audience. It was marvelous! Wonderful promise kept!

(And it's GOOD to see you!! How have you been??......You can freepmail me, if you'd like. I've MISSED you, dear esther!)

22 posted on 11/07/2003 6:45:50 PM PST by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: Burkeman1
I think his statement is misinterpreted. Read it again and note about the 'people in the room.'

"Following the prayer, Falwell told President Bush the people in the room represent about 200,000 pastors and 80 million Christians nationwide who consider him not only to be our president but also a man of God."

23 posted on 11/07/2003 6:46:15 PM PST by ptrey
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To: ptrey
30 years war- To much of Germany became protestant.
24 posted on 11/07/2003 6:49:43 PM PST by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: Burkeman1
I pray you're wrong.

And I DON'T agree that the systematic murder of millions of babies is NOT a federal issue.

If, say, California legalized murder, would you say that it's a states rights issue, and not federal? Would it be fine then to kill people in California, and wrong for the federal government to intervene?

What exactly is the 'common defence' if it doesn't include the protection the life of a partially born human being?

btw, do you support this atrocity, or do you just put your own particular view of the Constitution at a higher level than human life?

25 posted on 11/07/2003 6:51:49 PM PST by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: nickcarraway
bump
26 posted on 11/07/2003 6:53:45 PM PST by findingtruth
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To: Burkeman1
You are entitled to your opinion:

30 years war- To much of Germany became protestant. My opinion is that they become

ATHEISTS.

Best, Will

27 posted on 11/07/2003 6:57:59 PM PST by ptrey
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To: ohioWfan
Your example is "ad abusurdum reducto". That would never happen.
28 posted on 11/07/2003 6:59:33 PM PST by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: nickcarraway
In other news, Hillary Clinton is a Democrat.
29 posted on 11/07/2003 6:59:48 PM PST by Saturnalia (My name is Matt Foley and I live in a VAN down by the RIVER.)
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To: Burkeman1
Not a federal issue, the law Bush signed is against the Constitution, and I would strike it down. Bush of course knows that and knows that it will be struke down- with Thomas and Scalia most likely concurring.

Actually, Congress could have included language in the legislation to preclude any appeal to the Supreme Court, but of course Congress did not do that. The legislation is a sham.

30 posted on 11/07/2003 7:01:14 PM PST by findingtruth
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To: nickcarraway
Thank God for President George W Bush, a president who genuinely believes in the dignity and worth of ALL human life!
31 posted on 11/07/2003 7:06:15 PM PST by DrDeb
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To: ohioWfan
"Praise GOD for this Pro-Life President!"

Yup, This was a very good step in defense of the unborn. I see that some are dwelling on GWB's statement that he didn't feel that America is ready to reverse Roe-v-Wade, as if this means he would veto a bill that reversed Roe-v-Wade.

If a bill reversing Roe-v-Wade ever reaches George W. Bush's desk.... HE WILL SIGN IT

32 posted on 11/07/2003 7:06:25 PM PST by MJY1288 (The Democrats Have Reached Rock Bottom and The Digging Continues)
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To: Burkeman1
If someone said 30 years ago that doctors would be taking the heads of babies from the birth canal and sucking their brains out, most people would have said, "That would never happen."

It's called sin, Burkeman. We live in a nation filled with sinful, Godless people.

And you are naive to call any eventuality 'absurd' considering the direction this country has been going.

And I still think you are placing your own personal opinions regarding the Constitution above the value of a human life, and I find that disgusting.

33 posted on 11/07/2003 7:07:23 PM PST by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: nickcarraway
Thanks for the heads up!
34 posted on 11/07/2003 7:15:53 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Burkeman1
I too am Catholic; however, I do not share your derisive attitude either toward evangelical Christians like the Rev Jerry Falwell or valiant Pro-Life leaders like President Bush.

The President is doing what he can to restore a culture of life in this country. Perhaps we Christians should UNITE to HELP rather than hinder this effort!
35 posted on 11/07/2003 7:17:07 PM PST by DrDeb
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To: Cicero
Just for the record. PresReagan spoke by telephone to pro-lifers attending the annual "March For Life" in WashDC, each and every year of his Presidency. In his three opportunities, I don't believe PresBush has ever attended this event in person and I'm not sure how Bush addressed the event.
36 posted on 11/07/2003 7:20:25 PM PST by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: ohioWfan
I agree totally with your thoughts on what that "procedure" means. But it is not a federal issue! If Massachuseetts says that no abortion is legal no matter what! I would be happy and proud of my state. But if Ohio said that all abortion was legal from the first day of conception to the last day before birth or during birth- I would hate it and send money to those groups who oppose it- maybe even move there to work against such laws- but I would never want the Feds to intervene! That is worse.

I believe in states rights. Nothing in this world is going to meet our world view exactley. The best we can hope for is to live in community or town that matches best our beliefs without the "feds" telling us what to do.

Remember your Pslams. The man who prays for all the world but neglects his own family and neighbors is worth what?
37 posted on 11/07/2003 7:21:31 PM PST by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: Reagan Man
I believe he has sent personal videos to the event......not sure, but no President has attended these events to my knowledge.
38 posted on 11/07/2003 7:23:37 PM PST by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: ohioWfan
Why would any mother agree to a partial-birth abortion? I believe that only 99.9 per cent of the women who are actually informed about the process would be unable to go ahead with it. But instead, most are naieve enough to believe lies----that the baby is not a baby but a mass of tissue, that the baby will not know any pain, that the mother's life is more important----and on, and on, and on. Every mother who is contemplating a partial birth abortion---or any abortion---ought to first be required to view a videotape carefully showing the procedure, including the stabbing of the baby's brain, and the suctioning out of the brain fluid. I will even go so far as to hypothesize that 99.9 per cent of the people who STILL support this procedure are either in a position to make money from it or have absolutely no idea what the procedure involves.
39 posted on 11/07/2003 7:25:47 PM PST by Faith
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To: Burkeman1
I believe in states rights.

Obviously.......to such an extreme that you don't want PBA's to be illegal all over the country.

On that, I cannot agree. In fact, it sickens me. Being a Constitutionalist above being a Christian is, to me, unthinkable......and unScriptural as well.

40 posted on 11/07/2003 7:27:29 PM PST by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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