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Cranky SA not happy about his party's choice of OS
http://www.linuxjournal.com/ ^ | November 06, 2003 | Doc Searls

Posted on 11/06/2003 2:10:02 PM PST by Michael Barnes

Is there any significance to what Web server/platform combinations 2004 presidential candidates are using?

As we swing into the thick of the 2004 electoral playoffs, it's interesting to see what kinds of platforms are running under the candidates' official campaign Web sites. Netcraft has a handy feature called "What's that site running?" that lets us see combinations of Web servers and OS platforms. So here's a quick rundown, in alphabetical order:

George W. Bush: Microsoft IIS on Windows 2000

Wesley Clark: Apache on Linux

Howard Dean: Apache on FreeBSD

John Edwards: Microsoft IIS "behind a computer running NetWare"

Richard Gephardt: Microsoft IIS on Windows 2000

John Kerry: Apache on Linux

Dennis Kucinich Apache on Linux

Carol Mosely-Braun: Apache on FreeBSD

Al Sharpton: Apache on Solaris 8

Joe Lieberman: Apache on FreeBSD For what it's worth, the Republican National Committee is running Microsoft IIS on Windows 2000, while the Democratic National Committee is running Apache on Linux.

As of this writing, November 5, 2003, the RNC has an uptime of 4.26 days (maximum of 39.04) and a 90-day moving average of 16.91. The DNC has an uptime of 445.02 days (also the maximum) and a 90-day moving average of 395.38 days.

Draw your own conclusions.


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: apache; iis; linux; ms
shaking head....
1 posted on 11/06/2003 2:10:03 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: rdb3
*ouch*
2 posted on 11/06/2003 2:10:20 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Al Gore's Invention is killing the Democratic Party)
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To: Bush2000
c'mon, let's get this over with.
3 posted on 11/06/2003 2:10:39 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Al Gore's Invention is killing the Democratic Party)
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To: unix
Best of them all:

Al Sharpton: Apache on Solaris 8

4 posted on 11/06/2003 2:11:05 PM PST by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: unix
As of this writing, November 5, 2003, the RNC has an uptime of 4.26 days (maximum of 39.04) and a 90-day moving average of 16.91. The DNC has an uptime of 445.02 days (also the maximum) and a 90-day moving average of 395.38 days.

Sorry, I'm ignorant. What does this mean?

5 posted on 11/06/2003 2:12:49 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (One of Those Dreaded Federal Employees)
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To: unix
But let's be honest here. How much traffic do the routers of the all-mighty Kuchinut have to handle?
6 posted on 11/06/2003 2:13:19 PM PST by .cnI redruM (Mouthing support for the workingman is one of the best ways to avoid actually being one.)
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To: SandyInSeattle
That at a server level, we're getting our clocks cleaned

;)

7 posted on 11/06/2003 2:14:23 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Al Gore's Invention is killing the Democratic Party)
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To: SandyInSeattle
The Republicans are running Windows and have to reboot about once every two weeks. The Dems are running Linux and haven't rebooted for over a year.
8 posted on 11/06/2003 2:16:02 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Global warming=fresh picked Ohio bananas. Yummy!)
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To: unix
Two words: big deal.
9 posted on 11/06/2003 2:19:22 PM PST by mcg1969
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To: mcg1969
evidently big enough for you to stop by the thread..

Doh!

More of a sarcastic thread really..

10 posted on 11/06/2003 2:21:15 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Al Gore's Invention is killing the Democratic Party)
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To: KarlInOhio; unix
Oh! Thank you. I feel wiser... ;-)
11 posted on 11/06/2003 2:25:16 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (One of Those Dreaded Federal Employees)
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To: KarlInOhio
Yeah, they may not have rebooted for a year, but it would be interesting to run a ps -ef (if I remember correctly) to see what stuff is running that shouldn't be. Most servers I've worked with have instructions that advise periodic reboots. I've run servers, both Linux and Windows, for a long time without a reboot, but had performance degrade due to processes hanging up, and not shutting down properly.
12 posted on 11/06/2003 2:35:58 PM PST by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: unix
My only question is - are the Klintons using

or

??

13 posted on 11/06/2003 2:43:41 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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To: SandyInSeattle
It means the 'Rats have chosen a more rubust server OS than the Publicans, and it stays up for more than an order of magnitude longer between reboots.

Or maybe the Publicans are paranoid, and constantly reboot their server even when it isn't really necessary.

14 posted on 11/06/2003 2:45:09 PM PST by ArrogantBustard
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To: The KG9 Kid
Best of them all:

Al Sharpton: Apache on Solaris 8

The better the site platform, the worse the political platform.

15 posted on 11/06/2003 2:48:55 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: ArrogantBustard
Or maybe the Publicans are paranoid, and constantly reboot their server even when it isn't really necessary.

LOL! That may be.

16 posted on 11/06/2003 2:54:03 PM PST by SandyInSeattle (One of Those Dreaded Federal Employees)
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To: unix
A similar study was done in the early 80's. The Dems were using Beta VCR's, the GOP VHS.

We all know how that turned out...
17 posted on 11/06/2003 2:57:18 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat (www.firemackbrown.com)
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To: unix
The republicans have the money to finance a bloated IS staff?
18 posted on 11/06/2003 3:02:25 PM PST by Cooter
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To: unix
The fact that the libs are running better server software indicates a couple of things:

A. They have attracted younger, volunteer information services types to run their servers.

B. They use free software because they believe they should never have to pay for services, somebody should give it to them for free.

This just validates an old axiom I love to quote to old hippies:

"If a man is not Liberal as a youth, he doesn't have a heart.
If a man is not Conservative as an adult, he doesn't have a brain."

19 posted on 11/06/2003 3:02:39 PM PST by GluteusMax
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To: unix
My guess is that most of them outsourced the work and thus went with whatever their outsourcer picked.

So how did the Dems answer in the "Rock the Vote" debate to Mac vs. PC? Did any say Linux? :-)

20 posted on 11/06/2003 3:11:38 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: unix
evidently big enough for you to stop by the thread..

Touche'. :) But truthfully, the only thing that makes me roll my eyes is the knee-jerk anti-Microsoftisms.

I've maintained both Windows and Unix machines, and frankly the users of both systems tire me out :) The computers on the other hand were fine. Do I reboot Windows machines more? Of course. But it just wasn't that big of a deal to me.

21 posted on 11/06/2003 3:35:05 PM PST by mcg1969
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To: Question_Assumptions
So how did the Dems answer in the "Rock the Vote" debate to Mac vs. PC? Did any say Linux? :-)

"Apache on FreeBSD" could well be a Mac running OSX as that is FreeBSD at it's core and includes Apache. Thus there may be as many running Mac servers (Dean, Mosley-Braun and Leiberman) as are running Linux and more than were running Windows.

22 posted on 11/06/2003 3:36:59 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (I)
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To: mcg1969
It might also reflect the amount of traffic each site sees ;)
23 posted on 11/06/2003 3:37:18 PM PST by gogeo (A man can be judged by the quality of his supporters...and of his enemies.)
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To: mcg1969
I've maintained both Windows and Unix machines, and frankly the users of both systems tire me out :)

Amen, pass the userdel

24 posted on 11/06/2003 3:44:08 PM PST by Michael Barnes (Al Gore's Invention is killing the Democratic Party)
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To: JohnBovenmyer
It won't show up as FreeBSD since Apple's new OS's kernel is called Darwin. The user space tools are based on FreeBSD.
25 posted on 11/06/2003 3:55:33 PM PST by youaculpa
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To: GluteusMax
I run Linux not because I don't want to pay... but because I want the flexibility to do what I need to do in crafting services for our customers. I also enjoy the stability and security. That's what it comes down to.
26 posted on 11/06/2003 3:59:10 PM PST by youaculpa
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To: .cnI redruM; unix
China's Linux Plans Taking Shape
27 posted on 11/06/2003 4:59:17 PM PST by Willie Green (Go Pat Go!!!)
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To: youaculpa
I run Linux not because I don't want to pay... but because I want the flexibility to do what I need to do in crafting services for our customers. I also enjoy the stability and security. That's what it comes down to.

Well I run Linux because it's NOT Microsoft. I was simply pointing out a lib mindset, not bashing Linux.

28 posted on 11/06/2003 9:31:48 PM PST by GluteusMax
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