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One Small Step for Babykind
The New American
| November 17, 2003
| by Warren Mass
Posted on 11/05/2003 8:17:11 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: Delphinium
I am happy that lives will be saved. I seem to be the only one who objects to the interstate commerce clause being used for this. The hipocracy of the right, who object when it is used for liberal causes but don't when it is used for conservative causes, slays me.
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posted on
11/05/2003 8:21:40 AM PST
by
farmfriend
( Isaiah 55:10,11)
To: Delphinium; EternalVigilance; Mr. Silverback
Rather than being an abortion procedure that is embraced by the medical community, particularly among physicians who routinely perform other abortion procedures, partial-birth abortion remains a disfavored procedure...." This language suggests that other abortion procedures are favored by the medical community. The legislation does nothing to discourage these other, supposedly more favored, abortion procedures.
This bothers me.
To: farmfriend
I just hope they don't give up noe that they have got this passed.
I agree with the author that it probably;
it provided an all-too-easy way for a number of spineless politicians to win a "pro-life" label.
To: Delphinium
Let's fast forward a few steps...assume that W gets judges on the SC and we overturn Roe...this means that the issue goe back to the state legislatures, where it belongs in the first place...and you're gonna have a wide range of laws..NY Cal Mass, et al, allowing abortions.....what you're never gonna have is criminializing a women who resides in a no-abortion states who goes to NY or Cal to have one done...what we could probably hope for, a best, would be a gradual banning or abortions, by the individual states, past the first trimester...in this regard..the dramatic advances in medical technological, especially imaging...make it harder to depict the fetus as a lump of tissue...and it's possible that someday, science may prove that viability is present at conception....can't you see the NY Times headline..."NIH proves God was right, after all"...myself, I'd like to see the pro-life groups take a more positive approach to the issue advocacy....remember the Iowa septuplets who were born about 5 years ago....they were delivered at 24 weeks I believe...now they're all about 5, and all healthy....can't you see a picture of all of them..at birth, then today...with the tag line "Who told you we we're viable?"
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posted on
11/05/2003 8:33:01 AM PST
by
ken5050
To: ken5050
Who told you we we're viable?"
Good idea.
To: Delphinium
what bothers you?
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posted on
11/05/2003 8:42:48 AM PST
by
bonesmccoy
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posted on
11/05/2003 9:17:35 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(Pre-empt the third murder attempt: Pray for Terry Schiavo.)
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posted on
11/05/2003 9:20:48 AM PST
by
Mr. Silverback
(Pre-empt the third murder attempt: Pray for Terry Schiavo.)
To: Delphinium
the ban will, at least in theory, prevent less than four-tenths of one percent of all abortionsVery true. Abortuaries will continue to kill late-term babies by "saline abortion" (aka "salting out" -- the lovely procedure that poisons and burns babies to death through the injection of extremely strong salt solution into the womb).
Abortionists will also continue to kill babies whose lungs are immature by inducing premature labor, delivering the child, and then "allowing" him or her to die in a medical waste bucket with no comfort or medical treatment. This is how it's been done in Canada.
But the author is right. Better to ban one murderous "procedure" than none at all.
To: Delphinium
Yeah.
To: farmfriend
A 9 month baby can still be killed before it is born right?
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posted on
11/05/2003 9:43:00 AM PST
by
biblewonk
(I must answer all bible questions.)
This ban and the attention it recieves is good because it keeps the murder of children waiting to be born in the public light. And the overall rejection of killing unborn children cannot happen if the general public is unaware and uninformed.
Sadly, the butchers will simply switch to killing these babies with another method. They don't care, because the money is all that matters. One option is D&E:
From http://nrlc.org/abortion/pba/PBA_Images/PBA_Images_Heathers_Place.htm
About "Dilation and Evacuation" (D&E) Dismemberment Abortions
At the same developmental stage at which most partial-birth abortions are performed -- in the fifth and sixth months -- many unborn children are killed with a different abortion method called "dilation and evacuation" ("D&E"). It also is very brutal and painful to the unborn child.
"Human history becomes more and more a race between education and catastrophe." - H.G. Wells
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posted on
11/05/2003 10:17:33 AM PST
by
cpforlife.org
(The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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posted on
11/05/2003 10:18:36 AM PST
by
cpforlife.org
(The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
To: biblewonk
Yes.
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posted on
11/05/2003 10:20:00 AM PST
by
cpforlife.org
(The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
To: bonesmccoy
This language suggests that other abortion procedures are favored by the medical community. The legislation does nothing to discourage these other, supposedly more favored, abortion procedures.
Its almost like the legislators are actually favoring abortions other than partial birth.
To: cpforlife.org
... 23 week old FETUS...
My wife and I have a child that is 24 weeks old. He is not an "it", lump of tissue, etc... He is a person with a name - Nathaniel. I can get him to kick and roll over by a simple touch. He responds to our touch nearly every time. Can't wait to meet him.
May God have mercy on our country
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posted on
11/05/2003 1:36:40 PM PST
by
Coleus
(Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
To: Coleus
Thanks for the heads up!
To: biblewonk
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posted on
11/05/2003 1:39:26 PM PST
by
Coleus
(Only half the patients who go into an abortion clinic come out alive.)
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